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  1. GrecoCoach
    That lone major was my fault. His teammate, Seth Riley, had just lost in the semis after being ahead with 45 seconds left. I didn't let Mitch cut Fiddler the last 2 periods. If I had, he definitely could have teched or pinned him.
  2. GrecoCoach
    I agree that there are other 3 & 4 time champs that should be considered for this list, but would be a mistake to completely dismiss Sliga because he was only a 2 time champ. Here are my responses to your points: 1. Sliga played football, too. I never had him in the wrestling room from August - November while he was playing. His sophomore year, they won state in football, which cut into his season significantly. 2. Palmer was great. There's no way to know how a match between the two would end up, but "manhandle" isn't a result I would consider possible. 3. Sliga's in-state competition wasn't great as a junior and senior, but the national competition he beat throughout his high school career can't be denied. And, again, you're using the term "manhandled" when you are not recalling it correctly - the difference was from 5 points scored off a scramble. Both years, his opponents treated that match as the finals. Stephenson had already majored Goldman, and Atwood had pinned Johnson-Jones, so both had significant letdowns after their big wins over Sliga. There are plenty of "ass beaters" in the college rankings that Sliga beat during his impressive Fargo championships. Mitch might not be in the top 3 in many people's eyes, but his accomplishments should put him in the conversation.
  3. GrecoCoach
    So, who wants to host the "Best of the Rest B Team Duals"?
  4. GrecoCoach
    How do academies in large cities help increase participation in small schools? Imagine you're a parent in a small town. Would you want to drive over an hour each direction to take your kid to an academy or would you rather have a local youth coach who wrestled in college? Which do you think would increase youth participation and eventually better high school quality? Academies have been great for our elite wrestlers, but they do not help our rural kids first trying the sport.
  5. GrecoCoach
    It is not going to help the quality of wrestling immediately - It will help the quality in the long run. Small school youth see success at their high school, so they start wrestling earlier. A high school wrestler who has wrestled several years > a freshman first-time wrestler. Also, an increase in Indiana wrestlers competing in college leads to an increase in high school, junior high, & youth club coaches with college wrestling experience. If you're looking to improve the overall quality in our state right now, there's not much that can be done. But there are ways to improve the future quality of our state. Class wrestling is one of those ways.
  6. GrecoCoach
    Exposure is the only argument I need for class wrestling - much better than current stats or future estimated stats. Class wrestling will benefit multiple things... #1 College Recruitment. Benefits start Year 1. College coaches (DI, DII, DIII, & JuCo) first look at achievements of sophomores and juniors. Unless you're already an all-american, that is only going to include state achievements. Small school wrestlers from other states tend to get those achievements earlier in high school, which gets them looked at earlier by college coaches. Most college coaches consider your senior year too late to start recruiting. More exposure earlier in high school will mean more college offers for our small school wrestlers, some of whom might not have considered wrestling in college as an option. #2 Youth Participation. Benefits won't show for a few years. When a program has state champs, state placewinners, and state qualifiers year after year, it is much easier to grow your youth program. Kids like to see the success and continue the tradition. That's been a huge factor for Mater Dei, Bellmont, Yorktown, etc. With class wrestling you will see more small schools start to build their own legacy. #3 Future Coaches. Benefits won't show for several years. One thing that is holding us back as a state from getting to the next level is a lack of high school coaches with college wrestling experience. I'd be surprised if more than half of our head coaches wrestled in college. If we can get more of our wrestlers competing in college, then some of them will come back and coach high school, junior high, or youth clubs. That will improve our overall quality of wrestling.
  7. GrecoCoach
    Here's my best stab at it... In the USA, Offense = taking shots In other countries, Offense = winning position battles
  8. GrecoCoach
    I'd say no. The wrestler who has to beat out 4 others guys for the varsity spot has a greater chance than the wrestler who has never wrestled before and was pulled out of the hallway to fill a vacant spot. They are not, and that's not fair to the big schools. You are on to something here... Big schools should get more entries How is it fair that a school with 7 wrestlers can enter 100% of them, but a school with 50 wrestlers can only enter 28% of them?
  9. GrecoCoach
    Here are the salaries of the ISWA leaders... Chairman (a.k.a. President) - $0 Vice Chairman (x2) - $0 Treasurer - $0 Secretary - $0 The ISWA only has 2 paid positions, the office workers, who make close to minimum wage. The ISWA is a not-for-profit organization and is required by law to publish their annual budget that shows a 0 net profit. Ask a local club rep to see a copy since it is always provided in the annual meeting information. JMILL is correct that USAW sets the membership prices for coaches, athletes, and officials. The money goes to USAW, but they do give back a small portion (maybe $5 per membership) to the states. If the ISWA were really only about the money, then they should discourage coaches from buying membership and collecting the $10 gate per state tournament from each coach. Letting the coaches in for free is costing them a lot of money.
  10. GrecoCoach
    None of this is new this year. USAW has required a background check for a Coaches Membership Card for several years. And the ISWA has required the Coaches Card along with at least copper certification for many years to get the wristband at state.
  11. GrecoCoach
    And most of their sports lose money at their state tournaments. Wrestling is one of only a few sports that actually make a profit for the IHSAA.
  12. GrecoCoach
    The ISWA is not the one to blame for this. USAWrestling requires a background check in order to get a membership card, and has for several years now. As worthmatt stated, it is purely a safety issue for the kids. The background check should be good for 2 years. The ISWA does not receive any money from the background checks.
  13. GrecoCoach
    Yes, that is correct. Lots of coaches fill out the membership form that week just to nominate wrestlers for academic all state.
  14. GrecoCoach
    Their coach has to nominate the wrestler and send in a transcript. As long as they meet the requirements (junior/senior, participate in sectional, 3.75 gpa for all-state, 3.5 gpa for honorable mention) then they receive the award. Note: gpa is cumulative for all of high school (5 semesters for juniors, 7 semesters for seniors) Wrestlers not listed were either not nominated by their coach or didn't meet all the requirements.
  15. GrecoCoach
    I remember that well. I could never beat Mac, and was surprised when Ryan Schoettle beat him in the semifinals. Ryan and I ended up college teammates, so I could always remind him how I pinned him in the finals of semistate when we were sophomores in high school.
  16. GrecoCoach
    What if we keep the point system as it is, but make all 2-day events 3 points?
  17. GrecoCoach
    Warsaw, go ahead and disagree with me. I'll just say that my 6A school that was built 11 years ago doesn't have a gym big enough to host Sectionals. We can't even host our 7-team conference or our county meet. It would be a really nice junior high gym, but it does not compare to what other schools around us have.
  18. GrecoCoach
    This is the format that I thought could work to combine sectionals & regionals. If you do the pigtails and round of 16 on Friday night, then there will be 5 rounds left on Saturday. A 2-day tournament at the sectional/regional level will be much easier on teams for travel and lodging. I would like to see top 5 at semistate advance to state. Quarterfinal losers wrestle back to 5th (like we had for a year or two). 5s wrestle 4s Friday night of state - adds about 1-1.5 hours unless they add a couple more mats at Bankers Life.
  19. GrecoCoach
    Not all schools (even some 6A schools) have a gym large enough to host a Sectional. And not all programs have the parent and administrative support to run it effectively. I think the benefits of a "hometown crowd" are fairly offset by the challenges of hosting it.
  20. GrecoCoach
    Sorry Ed. I disagree with your starting definition. If a coach feels that his 2nd team has a varsity level ability, then why can't they be labelled as "Varsity B Team"? The top programs in the country all do it. If we, as a state, want to get our top 10% of teams to that kind of level, then that is what the mentality should be. Saying everything else is JV doesn't define or describe all 2nd string levels of ability. The schools that are hosting the varsity events should be the ones to accept or reject B squads. That should be based on what is best for the event and the teams that pay to be there based on the competitiveness of all teams there. (And the host coach's beliefs, as well)
  21. GrecoCoach
    It's updated now.
  22. GrecoCoach
    Thomas Pompei (Indiana Tech Head Coach) was on that HSE team and sent me a picture of the newspaper article. If I get a chance, I'll figure out how to post it here.
  23. GrecoCoach
    No electronic results that I know of. I was coaching for Carmel, and Cale Hoover was coaching for HSE. Neither of us are at those schools anymore, so we don't have access to the old scorebooks (if either still exist). It was just a very memorable dual. I believe it was the first time HSE had ever beaten Carmel. HSE wrestled great, Carmel had a few 7-point wins but no bonus points, and a heavily favored Carmel wrestler lost on a last second takedown. Throw in the team point deduction for a rule that was eliminated a couple years later, and it's easy to remember that meet.
  24. GrecoCoach
    In 2004 or 2005, HSE beat Carmel 21-20. All 14 matches were decisions. Carmel lost a team point when a wrestler's spandex shorts extended past his singlet leg during his match.
  25. GrecoCoach
    Adding a DJ and petting zoo would be even more exciting!
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