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At the tournament that we went to in Ohio earlier in the season, their coaches were taking the whole weight loss plan a step further. Ohio's coaches were printing off weigh in sheets from the weight loss program's website. The program made them specify which weight each wrestler was competing at and if it was lower than their individual plan said they could go, then the program wouldn't let them be entered at that weight. Now, this was very early in Ohio's season and some of the coaches didn't even know about having to do that. It was explained to me that it was for research data to see how many wrestlers were actually dropping to their lowest allowable weights and if they were doing it correctly. I don't know if anything like this will happen in Indiana, and I'm not certain if I like or dislike the whole idea of it. But it does put a new spin on the issue.

103 1 - Kei Yamamoto - Laf. Jeff 2 - Reise Overby - Laf. Harrison 3 - Mitch Snyder - HSE 4 - Austin Arnold - Brownsburg 5 - Sparky Inman - Westfield 6 - Justin Wilding - Noblesville 112 1 - Conrad Ling - Fishers 2 - LaDale Fitzgerald - Avon 3 - Chase Watson - HSE 4 - Jerald Thompson - Brownsburg 5 - Tyler Carlotto - Noblesville 6 - Tanner Clugh - Laf. Jeff 119 1 - Justin Fuller - Brownsburg 2 - Thomas Ash - HSE 3 - Brandon Gray - Fishers 4 - Taylor Draper - Laf. Jeff 5 - Jacob Wickes - McCutcheon 6 - JJ Nance - Laf. Harrison 125 1 - Chris Maxwell - Laf. Harrison 2 - Alex Griffin - McCutcheon 3 - Brent Roman - HSE 4 - Jordan Edwards - Noblesville 5 - Austin Jackson - Laf. Jeff 6 - Andrew Wong - Brownsburg 130 1 - Forrest Son - Laf. Harrison 2 - Nick Acosta - Avon 3 - Alex Huizar - McCutcheon 4 - Jacob Stachler - Zionsville 5 - Parker Bankert - Westfield 6 - John Tatum - HSE 135 1 - Matt Rassbach - Avon 2 - Trey Grayson - Laf. Jeff 3 - Chris Oaks - Brownsburg 4 - Chris Calhoun - HSE 5 - Drew Billman - Westfield 6 - Spencer Simpson - Zionsville 140 1 - Brady White - Westfield 2 - Mitt Irick - HSE 3 - Blaine Hall - Avon 4 - Adrian Brown - Laf. Jeff 5 - Wayne Specht - Noblesville 6 - Adam Kern - Zionsville 145 1 - Patrick Robinson - HSE 2 - Brian Hodge - Laf. Harrison 3 - Ethan Dale - McCutcheon 4 - Alex Bowers - Noblesville 5 - Montana Gipson - Avon 6 - Chad Staley - Laf. Jeff 152 1 - Jared Wethington - McCutcheon 2 - Jordan Hamrick - Laf. Jeff 3 - Dylan Frauhiger - Zionsville 4 - Taylor Montes - Fishers 5 - Nate Denson - Laf. Harrison 6 - Chris Sanders - HSE 160 1 - Cameron Vlahos - Laf. Harrison 2 - Max Youngs - Zionsville 3 - Brandon Miller - McCutcheon 4 - Sam Newblom - Westfield 5 - Alex Zellers - HSE 6 - Jonathan Martinez - Laf. Jeff 171 1 - Cheney Dale - McCutcheon 2 - Cole Brandt - Avon 3 - Jacob Howenstein - Zionsville 4 - Garrett Smitley - HSE 5 - Caleb Mickschl - Laf. Jeff 6 - Lukas Schaeffer - Westfield 189 1 - Mitch Sliga - Fishers 2 - Lorenzo Motton - McCutcheon 3 - Taylor Andrews - Laf. Harrison 4 - Derrick Holpuch - Noblesville 5 - Mark Wise - Brownsburg 6 - Adam Wertz - Zionsville 215 1 - Matt Sumner - McCutcheon 2 - Curtis Vice - Laf. Jeff 3 - Sam Carnes - Westfield 4 - Jason Pedigo - Zionsville 5 - Daniel Campbell - Laf. Harrison 6 - Quincy Pirtle - Avon 285 1 - Hector Huizar - Laf. Harrison 2 - Duell Ginter - Brownsburg 3 - Tyler Melby - Westfield 4 - Trevor Reece - HSE 5 - Blake Ford - McCutcheon 6 - Cody Moore - Fishers

Most of the top programs across the country compete in multiple varsity events almost every weekend. They have an A team and a B team (some even a C team) and then their JV team. Indiana teams don't normally do this, but I have seen situations where Indiana teams have done it. As far as the 18 points, all of the teams that I have coached have been right at that limit. However, I have always thought that the points referred to individual weigh-ins rather than team events. An individual can't have more than 18 points, which normally only affects wrestlers who spend some time on varsity and some time on JV. Keeping track of each individual's weigh-in points to make sure they don't go over their limit can be tricky near the end of the season. For Yorktown, since the varsity wrestlers didn't wrestle in the county tournament and instead wrestled at a different tournament, then their individual weigh-in points should be within the rules. To repeat something that was stated in another thread about this topic, Coach McCormick went to the other county coaches and ADs to ask permission to send their JV team. He told them that he would be okay if everyone decided he had to bring his varsity and that he'd be okay if his JV guys weren't allowed to officially win the tournament. Coach McCormick never intended this to be a snub or to tick off the other schools - he asked permission to do it.

That's sad, caliboy. I hope you're joking because I'll miss the good discussion you do provide. There's nothing wrong with praising your own. Just so you know, I have never given you a "boo". In fact, I honestly can't remember ever giving someone a boo (except manvswild for obvious reasons). I've given wahoos, but not boos - kind of a depressing feature really. Best of luck to Andre and Perry's team as we head into the post season.

HSE 40 Fishers 22

One major factor that got this format rolling is the economy. The ISWA was trying to find ways to make our state tournaments more affordable for the wrestling families. By putting both freestyle and greco states on the same weekend, families who wrestle both styles will only have to make one trip to Indy (gas, hotel, food, etc.) Personally, I think this could really help our greco numbers. People are already in town, so they might just decide to participate. Also, I really happy that the juniors get their own state tournament again. Junior state used to be a great tournament that was something special for a sometimes forgotten age group. It also again opens up the opportunity for our better cadets to compete at junior state as well. Jake Harreld ISWA Cadet Director

I now have the top ten in my sights... Thanks for giving me a goal to shoot for!

Chaney Dale (McCutcheon 171) beat Cameron Vlahos (Laf Harrison 160) in 4th OT on a locked hands call.

Back in the day, every team wrestled their normal line-up based on wrestle-offs, and the best wrestler always wrestled his own weight class. Then some coaches figured out that if they worked the different match ups, they could drastically affect the scoring outcome of the dual. Once some coaches started doing that, other coaches had to follow so that they wouldn't keep losing duals when they are the better team. Side Note: I've seen this backfire very badly, too - costing one team a chance at a state championship. Many people have made some excellent points to support this in other ways. I especially like the point about getting younger kids some varsity experience to help them develop as a better wrestler, see what level of competition they will be facing in the future, along with keeping them involved and on the team. Coaches now have to also follow rules about the number of weigh-ins each individual wrestler is allowed and follow rules about weight loss. These can affect when wrestlers can compete at certain weights.

caliboy189, This past weekend, Sliga also wrestled a state qualifier from Ohio (Div 1 Large Schools). Mitch beat him 5-0. Mitch has also beaten Sandwith from Evansville Memorial 16-4, who was ranked 5th at 215 at the time. It was rumored that Howenstein from Zionsville was going to bump up to wrestle Mitch, but that didn't happen. Early from Greenfield basically blocked and balled up against Mitch, which happens to every top wrestler at times. Mitch was up by 7 with 10 seconds left and gave up a reversal trying a quick tilt to get the major for the team. I apologize that Fishers, in its 4th year of existence, doesn't wrestle the same level of competition as Perry. Blame me for this, not the kid.

Fishers 40 Greenfield Central 24

Make up your mind.

Portage New Palestine South Adams Jeffersonville Lafayette Jeff Ev. Mater Dei Portage Yorktown Mishawaka

New Castle Union County Mason, OH Fishers South Adams Alexandria Anderson Southwestern No pools - each team wrestles 5 other schools

Fishers 37 Noblesville 33 130 Nob (fall) 135 Nob (fall) 140 Nob (5-3 OT) 145 Nob (fall) 152 Fis (fall) 160 Nob (4-0) 171 Nob (8-2) 189 Fis (fall) 215 Fis (fall) 285 Fis (14-1) 103 Fis (8-6) 112 Fis (fall) 119 Fis (fall) 125 Nob (fall)

CoachM is correct that wrestling is an easy sport to quit. The two things I've found that keep kids in the sport are success and/or a good relationship with the coach & teammates. Success can be very different for any of the wrestlers. For some, it's making it to state or having a winning record or making varsity or even winning 1 JV match. For others, it's simply the kind of recognition that CoachM explained. Every kid is different, so you need to focus on what it will take to keep each individual kid out. That can be very tough if it's a large group, but fairly easy when it's just a few. Even without much success on the mat, kids will keep wrestling if they have a good relationship with one of the coaches. If a kid thinks all the coaches are jerks who don't care about him, then they will quit. If a kid gets along well with any of the coaches or at least respects the coach, they will be much more likely to keep at it. A good relationship with teammates is equally as important. Having a good friend who is also wrestling will keep a kid on the team. On the other side, though, having a good friend who quits will drag a kid off the team with him. As a coach, you need to be aware of who your wrestlers are friends with and what their influence is. It's a challenge all of us face every year, but it is possible.

The difference is that the Traicoff also has 11 unranked teams. Bellmont only has 1. At the Traicoff, the top teams will only wrestle 2 or 3 of the other top teams. At Bellmont, they all wrestle each other with only 1 "easy" round of the 5. My vote goes to Bellmont, even though I've heard great things about the Traicoff.

189 - Andre Richards (PM) over Michael Johnson-Jones (WC) *wanted to make caliboy happy ;D

Twin Lakes is not in the Hoosier Crossroads Conference. Maybe you meant the Indiana Crossroads Conference?

Avon hosts a Super Dual on this weekend. I believe there are openings for teams for this year only. Avon, Carmel, Fishers, and Lafayette Harrison are still in. I don't know who else or if there are any others for this year.

HOOSIER CROSSROADS - 10 Schools - All participate No Outstanding Wrestler Award

Mike, Is that the same day as Middle School State? If so, I hope the dual is in the evening to give more people (including myself) a chance to see it. Some of us won't miss Middle School State, but we'd love to see this dual, too.

Get her a Garrett Wrestling shirt that says "Mrs. Y2CJ41" on the back. Get yourself a shirt that says "Mrs. Y2CJ41 Trained"

If we're going with any sport, then I've got one better than you, Andy. Emily Ayers of Carmel won 14 individual and 4 team state titles in swimming ('92-'96)(*girls swimming was a fall sport in '92 and a winter sport in '96)

There isn't a minimum anymore. They got rid of it when they developed the body fat certification.