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no, but you are getting closer.....lol

60 classes, all these kids that come out need to be down at state!

I have on other post, so not to bore people I just kept it simple! Last year as most know my son lost his only match at ticket round and was a SS Qualifier. It sucked and he beat himself up over it for a long time (think till he made it past that point this year). But 1 of the highlights of this was going to off season tournaments in Michigan, Iowa, Virginia, Florida and others where he wrestled SQ, SP, and even State champs. After beating most of these kids they start asking things like who is this kid, where did he come from, and etc.... The hype factor of an unknown is powerful at these tournaments. As far as multi-class, my issue lies in the details. I believe the problem is not with classing but classing school size only. By not including schools that are less popular in wrestling in all classes (example: teams with 1-15 season record if lucky) you are not improving the sport just shifting the focus.

I'm probably one of the worst offenders of this, but it is the way my mind works.....before friends, during enemies, and after if you still want to be friends great. No hard feelings here just my competitive nature, love it or hate it that's who I am!

Not saying the first question isn't true, but don't see enough evidence for me to think it's impact justifies the change. Statement about small schools is true, but most tournaments during football season are on Sunday. But some you don't get to go to like super 32's. We are 3a and most my kids are multi-sport athletes, I get it! BUT if their passion is to wrestle in college this is one of the best things they can do to be seen, in my opinion!

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Disagree about class wrestling improving exposure. There is much bigger return in off season tournaments for exposure than high school wrestling! Mostly tournaments during football season! College coaches have more free time, are actively searching, and in the early wrestling season spirit!

I need to put my one class wrestling post in for the after season. I don’t see enough disparity of how many state champs, placers, or qualifiers to justify taking a chance in messing up what I feel is the best of both worlds right now. I wish the IHSAA would step-up with team state, but then again other than location I feel people love the way it is done now. The IHSWCA listen to improvements and make them! Plus, I like it in my backyard so I can go there without getting a hotel. I’m a true believer that programs are built in the community no matter what the size of the school. Alumni and/or coaching can make huge impacts on coaching, building the brand, and on culture. I watch programs like Jimtown, PH, Shenandoah, Wawasee, Triton, Yorktown, and several others figure out how to work within these smaller schools. Matter of fact, I laugh because 4 (3-2a and 1-1a) of the 6 programs that Kyle wrestled with over the summer were these smaller schools. We were wrestling with them because we couldn’t find enough kids in our 3a to fill a 3 man team. I would say of our 28-ish wrestlers this year around 80-85% are multi-sport athletes. The only way that I would see a class program work is if you would constantly adjust by moving the best programs of each class up to the next and the worst of the programs down a class. Best example I could think of, I'm sure someone could come up with something even better. 405 schools / 3 = 135 schools per class 3 Semi-States (each class) 45 schools in each SS 15 Regionals (each class) 9 schools at each Regional No Sectionals (there is 4 less matches, per IHSAA request) Last 2 placed teams in 3A & 2A shift down a class and best 2 teams in 1A & 2A move up (the following year). If you are going to go for a better system, than make it one that will benefit all classes and programs. 63 teams had a state placer and 49 additional teams had at least 1 qualifier. That is 15.6% of high schools had a placer and 27.7% of high schools with a wrestler at state. 1 wrestler to state 59 teams (52.7%) 2 wrestlers to state 28 teams (25%), Makes up 87 high schools and 77.7% of state participants. (Might be off 1 or 2 teams, tired eyes) I know that not all 405-ish schools have wrestling teams and/or have a lot of FF, probably should be the first problem addressed. Does classing wrestling do this? If so, wouldn’t all the 3a schools be good or at least being able to fill a team? I mean they have the most advantages in the classing theory. I state again…… 63 Indiana High School wrestling teams out of 405 schools had a State placer! 112 Indiana High School wrestling teams out of 405 had at least 1 state qualifier and/or placer! I do feel that this is a low amount of schools represented at an individual state tournament (not sure how that compares to say CC, swimming, track or etc.). Question is do you make it bigger, class it, add wrestle backs, something different, or leave it alone? I find it disturbing just shy of 1/2 of the schools that take people down to state don't wrestle the next day! How many people do not come back Saturday or even down because these kids/schools didn't make it to the next day. I would think just the money lost in ticket sales from this alone would warrant wrestle backs!

That's why I never play......lol

they get to do rankings next year!

How does that apply with placing. As we can see from this weekend only about 1/2 the schools with qualifiers advanced to day 2. (Not busting balls here, legitimate question) With random draws and no wrestle backs, I'm wondering if these numbers are a little misleading.

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Good thing IHSAA is a "scholastic program" for Black than! Lol.

My point was why make statements negatively about probably the best match since Red/Lee last year! Make a separate post, not in a thank you post to these 2 men!

That's a big torch, even before this weekend!

Guess their big men should have beat one of those 2, than they wouldn't have had to worry about it! Lol

Everything was messed up when they took warsaw out of Ft Wayne! Numbers went way down! Lol

Don't count free throws till basketball state finals!

The whole family is! Dad came up and congratulated us, complimented Kyle for getting after it, stated how good of a wrestler he was, and wished us the best of luck in college! So dogging on them shows who the classless are! Good luck Lee's, it's going to be fun watching you guys. From a new FAN!

Noah wrestled well! I actually thought he would win that match. Noah keeps great position and has a great center of gravity. Hard kid to move around!

Well they need to go back and check. There are errors! Team having to many points taken and none from others. 1 team was deducted 2 x's for a 220 match ending in pin and didn't deduct points on another team for a tech earned.

Parents hands down.

Is that like a Carfax

Idk Breathit beat Jones pretty good and Jones lost to Clark by 1. Different days & different styles so you could be right!