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  1. Three class --3A--2A--1A 1st--8----5---1 2nd--8----4---2 3rd--12---1---1 4th--12---2---0 5th--10---4---0 6th--11---3---0 7th--10---4---0 8th--6----6---2 Qua--139--69--16 Placers 3A- 77 2A- 29 1A- 6 2 Class --2A--1A 1st---11---3 2nd---10---4 3rd---12---2 4th---12---2 5th---12---2 6th---13---1 7th---10---4 8th---10---4 Qua--167--57 Placers 2A- 90 1A- 22
  2. Reasons the qualifiers are closely attached to enrollments 1. No wrestle-backs so our true state qualifiers are hindered by a draw. 2. Big schools are handicapped by only having 14 entries, many JV kids at these schools could be knocking the smaller school kids out earlier in the tournament 3. Regionals are made up of mostly same size schools. This produces more semi-state champions from those similar sized schools and better chances for a draw...see #1 So you want to hold out on class wrestling so that we can sit at the bar and talk about Evan Ellis winning a state title?
  3. Ellis is one of only six state champions over the past six years from the bottom 1/3 of schools. That is 1 out of 98 state champions. On top of that he is one of 10 finalists from those small schools also. That is called anecdotal evidence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence I'll offer you the wager again this year. You get all 1A wrestlers that enter the state tournament which is about 1000. I'll pick 50 wrestlers of my choosing from a 3A school and we'll see who gets more state qualifiers.
  4. 4. False, attendance was steadily dropping. In 1980 over 1 million people went to an IHSAA state series(sectional on) game. In 1997 before class basketball it was about 786,000. And... 1991: 903,430 (decrease) 1990: 981,395 (increase) 1989: 965,042 (increase) 1988: 940,838 (increase) 1987: 916,872 (decrease) 1986: 946,705 (decrease) 1985: 994,899 (decrease) 1984: 1,036,261 (decrease 32K) 1983: 1,064,987 (decrease of 12K makes it even for two years) 1982: 1,076,886 (rise in attendance of 12K) 1981: 1,064,764 (rise in attendance of 55k) 1980: 1,005,778
  5. That is based off of nothing what-so-ever. Davison is a top 5 guy in the country. You would have to go far back into his career to see him get beat that handily in folkstyle.
  6. 1. That could also be why New York has low participation numbers too. 2. From what i have gathered here are the numbers of states that went to class during these times 1980-6 1970-7 1960-8 http://indianamat.com/stuff/statebreakdown.html So your statement is false and based on a generality and not on facts 3. New York has goofy rules where you don't represent your school at state, but your region. On top of that you basically have to be a regional champ to advance to state. 4. That is an opinion, That is not based on fact. There was no way we would keep having 100,000 people at our state finals like during the Damon Bailey years. Lastly, the NFHS data is a decent gauge, but it's not the bible. It is all based on what schools report as their rosters. I saw the data from California and they had schools reporting 200+ wrestlers when they have like 1000 students. So take those numbers with a little bit of a grain of salt. 3A schools don't enter 65% of the kids at sectional though. They enter 33% of them.
  7. Schools with more success tend to have better participation, why is that? If more schools have MORE success do you think that will grow the sport? That is anecdotal evidence. Here are real statistics rather than general observations From 2011-2016 3 classes Pla- 3A(xx.xx%) 2A(xx.xx%) 1A(xx.xx%) 1st- 63(75.00%) 17(20.24%) 4(4.76% 2nd- 67(79.76%) 14(16.67%) 3(3.57% 3rd- 56(66.67%) 23(27.38%) 5(5.95% 4th- 52(61.90%) 27(32.14%) 5(5.95% 5th- 58(69.05%) 22(26.19%) 4(4.76% 6th- 59(70.24%) 20(23.81%) 5(5.95% 7th- 65(77.38%) 16(19.05%) 3(3.57% 8th- 61(72.62%) 13(15.48%) 10(11.90% Qualifiers- total 3A- 1160- 64.73% 2A- 468- 26.12% 1A- 164- 9.15% More success means more people recognized for their hard work. More people recognized would lead to more promotion of the sport and thus more popularity. That is good.
  8. Because we aren't the IHSAA..... The model we use is after the IHSAA's tournament...even as much as the less than 3 wrestlers at sectional thing, but we don't want to use everything the IHSAA does.
  9. HOLD UP! You say population matters...but yet school size doesn't? We just need to work harder, right?
  10. What about by regional? Fort Wayne by far has the most small schools and least amount of total students compared to the other semi-states.
  11. Here is the video https://www.facebook.com/IndianaMat/videos/10154137634801193/
  12. Why are we comparing ourselves to Kentucky? If we want a real gauge we need to beat the best from Illinois, Ohio, Pennsylvania, etc.
  13. By STEVE KRAH stvkrh905@gmail.com The Bulldogs have some “sweet rings” coming to them. That’s what fourth-year Brownsburg High School head wrestling coach Darrick Snyder said as his squad was wrapping up an IHSAA team state championship. Led by three juniors “under the lights,” the Bulldogs won it all on the IHSAA side for the first time Saturday, Feb. 18 — after taking a second straight Class 3A Indiana High School Wrestling Coaches Association State Duals crown Dec. 23. Brownsburg racked up 100 points and outdistancing runner-up Chesterton (80). A two-day record crowd of 33,844 packed Bankers Life Fieldhouse in downtown Indianapolis. Brayton Lee (50-0 at 145 pounds) rolled to the title in his weight class while Ty Mills (37-3 at 120) and Blake Mulkey (38-2 at 126) were runners-up for Brownsburg, which came into the meet ranked No. 1 as a team. Lee, Mills and Mulkey were all top-ranked as individuals. “He’s at a different level,” Snyder said of Lee, who moved to 130-1 in his prep career with two state titles (he reigned at 138 in 2016). “I think he’s going to wrestle big time (NCAA) D-I and there’s a very good chance he’ll be wrestling for a career after that. He’s that special. “He enjoys every second of being out there and the competition part of it. It’s an absolute joy to be his coach.” In the finals, Lee bested Munster senior Jason Crary by a 14-6 major decision, taking him down seven times and cutting him six. “I felt like that was my best opportunity to get the match rolling,” Lee said. “Scoring on my feet, that’s where I’m always comfortable.” Lee expressed his gratitude for others who got him to where he is in the mat world. “It’s a ton of coaches, my long-time club coach Chad Red, my high school coach, God, everybody,” Lee said. “There’s just so much support.” Lee, who is also a three-time second and Hendricks County tournament champion and two-time regional and semistate winner as well as an All-American at the national level, describes what it’s like inside the Brownsburg practice room. “We have fun, but it’s very competitive because we have so many good partners,” Lee said. “My teammates are crazy. They really stepped it up. Our guys wrestled amazing. It’s just a great family and we have a great time together. “Snyder is the biggest part. When he came to Brownsburg, he made us great. He’s the best.” A late takedown by Columbus East sophomore Cayden Rooks gave him a 5-4 finals win against Mills. The Brownsburg grappler took Rooks down midway through first period and led 2-0. Mills blocked reversal attempt near end of the first period and took a 2-0 lead into the second. Rooks escaped near the start of the second period to cut the lead to 2-1 and that was the score heading to the third period. Rooks yielded an escape to open the third period to make it 3-1. A Rooks takedown 30 seconds into the period knotted the score a 3-all. Mills went up 4-3 with an escape. “Hard work and determination, that’s how anybody gets here,” Mills said. “I’ve been staying focused, getting it done in the classroom and on the mat. I always have a thought about my last loss and it pushes me to go hard and be stronger. “I just stayed focus and do whatever Snyder tells me to do and don’t have a smile on my face. We get it done at Brownsburg. Nobody practices as hard as us. It’s an exciting atmosphere in that room.” Mills now has two state runners-up (106 in 2015 and 120 in 2017) and a third-place finish (106 in 2016) to his credit as well as three regional, two sectional, two conference and one county tournament title to his credit. He said the Bulldogs are all focused on one goal. “We always break at practice on ’State Champs!,” Mills said. “The team got it done in individual and Team State (in December in Fort Wayne) this year. Nothing can stop us. Nothing should decide that besides our selves.” Mulkey, who also wrestled at 132 this season and tends to spar with bigger teammates, also talked about the workouts that again made Brownsburg top dogs in Indiana wrestling. “We have fun sometimes,” Mulkey said. “We plays games at the end and before practice. From 3:20 to 5:20, it’s hard work. It’s all business. “We definitely push each other in practice. It gets a little feisty sometimes. But we love each other as a team. We just battle each other and make each other better everyday.” Mulkey quickly went up 2-0 in the finals against New Palestine senior Alec White before being pinned in 3:32. A year ago, Mulkey placed third at 120. He is a three-time conference and county tournament champion and two-time winner and the sectional and regional level. Five other Bulldogs — seniors Rickie Clark (fourth at 285), Isaac McCormick (seventh at 220) and Anthony Cicciciarelli (lost in the first round at 170), junior Nathan Walton (third at 182) and freshman Drake Campbell (fifth at 106) — were at the State Finals There will be a celebration in Brownsburg. Then it’s back to work. “It’s exciting,” Snyder said. “We return 10 starters and three guys who where under the lights. They get tomorrow and Monday off and we have open room on Tuesday to start our off-season.” Click here to view the article
  14. By STEVE KRAH stvkrh905@gmail.com The Bulldogs have some “sweet rings” coming to them. That’s what fourth-year Brownsburg High School head wrestling coach Darrick Snyder said as his squad was wrapping up an IHSAA team state championship. Led by three juniors “under the lights,” the Bulldogs won it all on the IHSAA side for the first time Saturday, Feb. 18 — after taking a second straight Class 3A Indiana High School Wrestling Coaches Association State Duals crown Dec. 23. Brownsburg racked up 100 points and outdistancing runner-up Chesterton (80). A two-day record crowd of 33,844 packed Bankers Life Fieldhouse in downtown Indianapolis. Brayton Lee (50-0 at 145 pounds) rolled to the title in his weight class while Ty Mills (37-3 at 120) and Blake Mulkey (38-2 at 126) were runners-up for Brownsburg, which came into the meet ranked No. 1 as a team. Lee, Mills and Mulkey were all top-ranked as individuals. “He’s at a different level,” Snyder said of Lee, who moved to 130-1 in his prep career with two state titles (he reigned at 138 in 2016). “I think he’s going to wrestle big time (NCAA) D-I and there’s a very good chance he’ll be wrestling for a career after that. He’s that special. “He enjoys every second of being out there and the competition part of it. It’s an absolute joy to be his coach.” In the finals, Lee bested Munster senior Jason Crary by a 14-6 major decision, taking him down seven times and cutting him six. “I felt like that was my best opportunity to get the match rolling,” Lee said. “Scoring on my feet, that’s where I’m always comfortable.” Lee expressed his gratitude for others who got him to where he is in the mat world. “It’s a ton of coaches, my long-time club coach Chad Red, my high school coach, God, everybody,” Lee said. “There’s just so much support.” Lee, who is also a three-time second and Hendricks County tournament champion and two-time regional and semistate winner as well as an All-American at the national level, describes what it’s like inside the Brownsburg practice room. “We have fun, but it’s very competitive because we have so many good partners,” Lee said. “My teammates are crazy. They really stepped it up. Our guys wrestled amazing. It’s just a great family and we have a great time together. “Snyder is the biggest part. When he came to Brownsburg, he made us great. He’s the best.” A late takedown by Columbus East sophomore Cayden Rooks gave him a 5-4 finals win against Mills. The Brownsburg grappler took Rooks down midway through first period and led 2-0. Mills blocked reversal attempt near end of the first period and took a 2-0 lead into the second. Rooks escaped near the start of the second period to cut the lead to 2-1 and that was the score heading to the third period. Rooks yielded an escape to open the third period to make it 3-1. A Rooks takedown 30 seconds into the period knotted the score a 3-all. Mills went up 4-3 with an escape. “Hard work and determination, that’s how anybody gets here,” Mills said. “I’ve been staying focused, getting it done in the classroom and on the mat. I always have a thought about my last loss and it pushes me to go hard and be stronger. “I just stayed focus and do whatever Snyder tells me to do and don’t have a smile on my face. We get it done at Brownsburg. Nobody practices as hard as us. It’s an exciting atmosphere in that room.” Mills now has two state runners-up (106 in 2015 and 120 in 2017) and a third-place finish (106 in 2016) to his credit as well as three regional, two sectional, two conference and one county tournament title to his credit. He said the Bulldogs are all focused on one goal. “We always break at practice on ’State Champs!,” Mills said. “The team got it done in individual and Team State (in December in Fort Wayne) this year. Nothing can stop us. Nothing should decide that besides our selves.” Mulkey, who also wrestled at 132 this season and tends to spar with bigger teammates, also talked about the workouts that again made Brownsburg top dogs in Indiana wrestling. “We have fun sometimes,” Mulkey said. “We plays games at the end and before practice. From 3:20 to 5:20, it’s hard work. It’s all business. “We definitely push each other in practice. It gets a little feisty sometimes. But we love each other as a team. We just battle each other and make each other better everyday.” Mulkey quickly went up 2-0 in the finals against New Palestine senior Alec White before being pinned in 3:32. A year ago, Mulkey placed third at 120. He is a three-time conference and county tournament champion and two-time winner and the sectional and regional level. Five other Bulldogs — seniors Rickie Clark (fourth at 285), Isaac McCormick (seventh at 220) and Anthony Cicciciarelli (lost in the first round at 170), junior Nathan Walton (third at 182) and freshman Drake Campbell (fifth at 106) — were at the State Finals There will be a celebration in Brownsburg. Then it’s back to work. “It’s exciting,” Snyder said. “We return 10 starters and three guys who where under the lights. They get tomorrow and Monday off and we have open room on Tuesday to start our off-season.”
  15. I heard next year in the football state finals that field goals won't count in the first quarter.
  16. The criteria for selection will be left intentionally vague as we want a variety of opinions as to who the voters think is the best wrestler
  17. Throw Davison into that mix too, he's pretty good.
  18. Lots of great choices, but only one will be named Mr. Gorilla. Who would you pick and why? Note: Here is the criteria sent to voters The criteria for selection will be left intentionally vague as we want a variety of opinions as to who the voters think is the best wrestler. Some general criteria that can be considered is listed here: 1. Must be a senior 2. Undefeated/fewest losses. A midseason loss would not disqualify a wrestler. 3. Domination. Number of pins, tech falls 4. Level of competition. 5. Body of work previous to senior year. State and national resume. 6. Character 7. Grades Any, or all of these may, or may not, be taken into consideration by you as a voter when making your selections.
  19. They'll be seniors next year.
  20. Lee, Lee, or Parris Discuss
  21. https://twitter.com/IndianaMat/status/833092853303803904
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