Bronxbomber Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I thought they had a tri this weekend any other results as they get ready for Big Tens 125 Dakota Leach (Southern Illinois Edwardsville) won by decision over Alonzo Shepherd (Indiana) 5-1. 3.00 0 133 Joseph Duca (Indiana) won by decision over Patrick Myers (Southern Illinois Edwardsville) 5-2. 0 3.00 141 Trevor Moody (Indiana) won by pin over John Petrov (Southern Illinois Edwardsville) 4:59. 0 6.00 149 Eric Roach (Indiana) won by tech fall over Karsten Van Velsor (Southern Illinois Edwardsville) 4:40 20-4. 0 5.00 157 Alex Gregory (Indiana) won by decision over Logun Taylor (Southern Illinois Edwardsville) 10-3. 0 3.00 165 Ryan Leblanc (Indiana) won by decision over Matthew Lester (Southern Illinois Edwardsville) 6-4. 0 3.00 174 Jake Residori (Southern Illinois Edwardsville) won by decision over Mathew Irick (Indiana) 6-4. 3.00 0 184 Lucas Sheridan (Indiana) won by decision over Deshoun White (Southern Illinois Edwardsville) 4-0. 0 3.00 197 Cheney Dale (Indiana) won by decision over Josh Wood (Southern Illinois Edwardsville) 3-2. 0 3.00 285 Adam Chalfant (Indiana) won by decision over David Devine (Southern Illinois Edwardsville) 8-2. 0 3.00 Dual Meet Score Logged You know, I think I would rather be a man than a god . We don't need anyone to believe in us. We just keep going anyhow. It's what we do. N.Gaimann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Their website also lists a win over Lindenwood 39-12 at the SIUE meet. Next event is the Big 10 Championships then NCAA's for those who are able to qualify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I find it interesting, on one hand Purdue schedules Northern Iowa University. I U chooses to line up these two institutions of higher learning, to tune for The BIG tournament every year. I think we are seeing a changing of the guard,of D1 schools, here in Indiana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I find it interesting, on one hand Purdue schedules Northern Iowa University. I U chooses to line up these two institutions of higher learning, to tune for The BIG tournament every year. I think we are seeing a changing of the guard,of D1 schools, here in Indiana. I think its been somewhat "old hat" for IU to schedule an light dual or two prior to Big 10's in order to have everyone injury free and fresh for the big competition. Purdue may be taking the opposite philosophy of getting in one more hard nose dual, probably hope that the added competition will help ensure their guys are ready for the grind of the tournament. Different strategies for sure. Consider IU and PU are comparable close in the standings this year you maybe able to judge from their performance at the tournament which strategy may have possibly worked out better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Seems that scheduling process has worked wonders at IU for many years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 If you really think about the lack of depth Indiana has had, for the last 3to 4 years,the softer non conference schedule protects wrestlers and keeps dual win loss record respectable. Perception is everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 Got it you are right on, protect the overall team record. When you talk about soft or lack of depth, would that really happen if the staff did not push these the wrestlers to cut to much weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Do you think it is really severe weight cut? Or maybe the possibility, that with the overall lack of depth, this creates a work out partner problem. These guys are definitely not skilled in riding or keeping wrestlers down. Also pinning moves or combinations seem to be missing, in most of their skill sets. So, not to minimize the importance of controlled weight cutting, I think the coaching not being able to attract and keep wrestlers in the program, to be able to provide a competitive room is another problem here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber Posted February 23, 2014 Author Share Posted February 23, 2014 You can call it many things, severe weight cut, lack of depth because they drive guys out, lack of smart recruiting, lack of a full staff. Goldman can barely move if you watch him walk and if you list to the inter mat radio Simmons is spending his time wrestling Walsh and Adam. Not enough skilled coaches in the room to work with pinning combo, riding out and so on. It is all focused on cutting weight, the light weights lost a huge part when Joe went to Princeton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Simmons is wrestling with chalfant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Simmons is wrestling with chalfant? What you haven't seen Chalfant's improved spladle technique yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 Matt M , what's your thoughts on season. You were quite vocal all year when I questioned thigs through out year. What are your thoughts on team, big ten results and ncaa. Did they perform like you thought, huge whole at 125 and 141 this year yet they drove two out of Bloomington at those weights last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Matt M , what's your thoughts on season. You were quite vocal all year when I questioned thinks through out year. Still have your "blinders" on I see. As I've tried to express to you on multiple occasions, me being "quite vocal" towards you had nothing to do with what you were questioning and everything to do with how you were questioning it. I feel its annoying when simple post talking about IUs recruiting class becomes one about the downfalls of the coaching staff. I see it as disrespectful to the wrestlers when you turn a thread cheering some of the teams early season open tournament success into a reason to crap on the coaching staff. I find it insulting to a wrestler when you turn a thread giving him credit for his great start into one dumping on the coaches. And just plain annoying when every single mention of IU or college wrestling in general on this board was almost inevitably followed by you making a negative comment towards IU as a whole or specifically towards the coaching staff. As I've said before if you were willing to add anything more of positive value to this board about college or high school wrestling it would have been welcomed. Have you actually had a post yet that was not directly or indirectly emphasizing your distain for Goldman and crew? If so it's been very rare of your 48 posts so far. You can't tell me you know nothing else about college wrestling. I have not problem with someone expressing their opinion about the IU coaching staff in occasional threads, as it is an obvious topic of discussion given their results over the last few years. But, taking over threads which are giving credit to the wrestlers who are working hard in the program or threads talking about a different college wrestling subject is not the way to do it. When you make your sole purpose for even being on the board a personal vendetta against IU staff it does get tiresome and it seems to take away from some of the validity you message could have. Especially when you purposely infect most college board threads with it. I have rarely questioned your personal feelings on the coaching staff or the pitfalls experienced this season. I have only questioned your need to turn any credit given to IU wrestlers success on the mat, any thread mentioning IU wrestling in general, or even many threads just talking about college wrestling period into an attack on thr IU staff. You wondered earlier in the year why the college board here wasn't that busy, well turning half the threads into yet another "I hate Goldman and company" post will end up killing what little on topic conversation was occurring. And no I'm not particularly pleased at some of the issues and results of this wrestling season. But, some of the positive and negative of what I've noticed has already been mentioned in other posts on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleB Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Still have your "blinders" on I see. As I've tried to express to you on multiple occasions, me being "quite vocal" towards you had nothing to do with what you were questioning and everything to do with how you were questioning it. I feel its annoying when simple post talking about IUs recruiting class becomes one about the downfalls of the coaching staff. I see it as disrespectful to the wrestlers when you turn a thread cheering some of the teams early season open tournament success into a reason to crap on the coaching staff. I find it insulting to a wrestler when you turn a thread giving him credit for his great start into one dumping on the coaches. And just plain annoying when every single mention of IU or college wrestling in general on this board was almost inevitably followed by you making a negative comment towards IU as a whole or specifically towards the coaching staff. As I've said before if you were willing to add anything more of positive value to this board about college or high school wrestling it would have been welcomed. Have you actually had a post yet that was not directly or indirectly emphasizing your distain for Goldman and crew? If so it's been very rare of your 48 posts so far. You can't tell me you know nothing else about college wrestling. I have not problem with someone expressing their opinion about the IU coaching staff in occasional threads, as it is an obvious topic of discussion given their results over the last few years. But, taking over threads which are giving credit to the wrestlers who are working hard in the program or threads talking about a different college wrestling subject is not the way to do it. When you make your sole purpose for even being on the board a personal vendetta against IU staff it does get tiresome and it seems to take away from some of the validity you message could have. Especially when you purposely infect most college board threads with it. I have rarely questioned your personal feelings on the coaching staff or the pitfalls experienced this season. I have only questioned your need to turn any credit given to IU wrestlers success on the mat, any thread mentioning IU wrestling in general, or even many threads just talking about college wrestling period into an attack on thr IU staff. You wondered earlier in the year why the college board here wasn't that busy, well turning half the threads into yet another "I hate Goldman and company" post will end up killing what little on topic conversation was occurring. And no I'm not particularly pleased at some of the issues and results of this wrestling season. But, some of the positive and negative of what I've noticed has already been mentioned in other posts on the subject. A wahoo to you MattM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber Posted March 28, 2014 Author Share Posted March 28, 2014 So as someone else questioned you earlier in the year, are you on the staff. Nice long post to change subject and not answer the questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 So as someone else questioned you earlier in the year, are you on the staff. Nice long post to change subject and not answer the questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber Posted March 28, 2014 Author Share Posted March 28, 2014 I guess you answered the question for all of us. I have never questioned the wrestlers or ther work ethics or efforts, just the people who jump on and try to say it is because of Goldman and Staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 It's difficult to focus on (or be optimistic about) individual results when the team is so horribly uncompetitive. If the Colts had the worst coach in the AFC for a couple decades nobody would be getting caught up in too many discussions about a bump in production at the safety position. That may not be the best analogy, but you get my drift. IU fans are frustrated with being a doormat. The level of talent we're getting is surprisingly good for what the program has become. The athletes are obviously dedicated and living the life. As a team, the "holes" are at the positions of leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 Glass , snubs the nit say we should be in the big dance. Shows what his standards are for basketball compared to wrestling. Why no change at IU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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