daddio Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 If we are going to Vegas, and the actual season starts before then, do I need the AD to sign off on us going to the tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chambers Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 If we are going to Vegas, and the actual season starts before then, do I need the AD to sign off on us going to the tournament. When you say "the actual season starts before then" do you mean that the first day of official practices have started or the first day we can wrestle a match against another school has passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddio Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 I believe actual practice will have officially started, but it will be before the first day of competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 The IHSAA Out Of state competition rules are one of the biggest reasons indiana doesnt get as much love nationally....we cant bring in the big nationally ranked schools and we cant go to any big national tournaments...really grinds my gears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Definitions Authorized Contest Season ? Period between dates of the first authorized season contest and the last contest played in the IHSAA tournament series in each sport. Authorized Practice Season ? Period between dates of first and last IHSAA authorized practices. This does not refer to first school practice when scheduled on a later date. Contest Season ? For each sport, that period of time between the date of the first authorized contest until the starting date of the sectional tournament. Practice Season ? The period of time between the date of first and last IHSAA authorized practice. This does not refer to first school practice when scheduled on a later date. School Year Out-of-Season ? For each sport, that period of time between Monday of Week 5 and Monday of Week 49 or the last day of the school year, including vacations, that is outside the contest season. Rule 15-2 During School Year Out-of-Season 15-2.1 Individual Sports (Cross Country, Golf, Gymnastics, Swimming, Tennis, Track, Wrestling) a. Students may participate in non-school contests as individuals or as members of a non-school team in non-school contests provided that participation during school time is approved by the school principal or his/her designee. b. Coaches, from a member school coaching staff, may coach students in that sport if NOT under the organization, supervision and operation of the member school. c. Member schools may not organize, supervise or operate athletic practices or interschool athletic contests. d. Member schools may not provide school-owned uniforms (jerseys, shirts, shorts, pants, singlets, or swimsuits, etc.) worn by the student in non-school contests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 The IHSAA Out Of state competition rules are one of the biggest reasons indiana doesnt get as much love nationally....we cant bring in the big nationally ranked schools and we cant go to any big national tournaments...really grinds my gears Well the contest season travel rule in particular, is definitely hurting our individual and team national exposure. Sure, getting the topic off track but the question for this has been answered. 10-1 Out-of-State Contest Limitations The address of out-of-state schools participating in a contest against a member school as well as the site of such contests must be within 600 miles round trip travel from the Indiana state line and shall be sponsored or co-sponsored by a member high school. 10-4 Mileage Limitation on Team Practices Team practices out-of-state shall not exceed 120 miles round trip from the Indiana state line. I can somewhat understand having a limit on how far team can travel for competition. This helps ensure schools don't start going crazy on long expensive national trips, as well as, ensure not missing more of the school time due to traveling and attending distant events. However, to not allow a team to compete against another team at a tournament within that travel range because that school happen to travel from outside the Indiana travel range doesn't make sense to me. Who cares how far another team travels for the competition, it doesn't affect the Indiana team at all. In my view just let other states worry about their teams and how the travel affects them. I'm guessing this was done in an effort to force Indiana schools to mostly compete with other Indiana schools, with the assumption that boarder town schools would needs some leeway. if that is the purpose behind this rule then just make a rule limited the amount of competitions beyond the travel zone to 1 or 2 a year. That would be all most schools would ever attend anyways. Just lifting that part of the rules opens up a few more bigger regional and even national events that Indiana schools could attend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickS Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 There's a waiver form on the IHSAA website that may apply to this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddio Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 Ok, so since we dont actually have a match for school until after this tournament, we should be good. Or to be on the safe side, should I go ahead and have a form filled out by the AD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chambers Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 when is the tournament? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddio Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 November 3rd and 4th. The freak show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 The first time a school/team can have an official contest in wrestling this season is Nov. 12th. So the Freak Show tournament will occur be fore that date. According the the wording of the IHSAA by-laws this would be an event that is during the school year and out of season (contest season). As usually consulting with an AD and bringing to light the wording of the by-laws is always a good safety precaution. That being so the by-laws then stipulate that "Students may participate in non-school contests as individuals or as members of a non-school team in non-school contests provided that participation during school time is approved by the school principal or his/her designee." Thus if you are missing any part of school to attend these out of season competition the administration is suppose to sign off on the missed days. Basically a per-arranged absence issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddio Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 Thanks for the help ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanGski Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Ttt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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