BlueBolt Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 To answer the question that was aked. I have never personally hated or disliked a team. THose guys laced up their shoes and put on their head gear to do the same thing I did. Now FANS...That's a different story! I have seen some of the WORST sportsmanship imaginable from fans of programs that I KNOW would not condone that same type of thing out of their athletes. I am taking about fans literally cussing and spitting at the family members of wrestlers from the opposing team, including my parents years ago. Do you judge the program based on the lack of class shown by a few of their supporters? I am afraid it's hard to separate the two completely. Our sport is no different that others, the same stories are told in Football, Baseball, Track, and what ever that little game is with the orange ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awood2 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 You said it. Wrestling is personnal! My brothers and I played lots of sports and my family never got behind me like they did in wrestling. Football, basketball, swimming fans, they don't have that same emotional intensity. When that is your baby getting pounded you kinda lose it a little. I keep thinking of that video topic on indianamat.com about the crazy mom. I still love showing that to friends. Every match I go to, even the Purdue vs. Iowa match Friday, you can find 'Patrick's mom' as we call it. The one family member, usually a mom, who is so into the match she doesn't even realize that she is in the room with 200+ other fans. Nothing compares to wrestling. We love to hate each other. No disrespect, just pure intensity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-train Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 any team that is successful for more than two years is an instant magnet for animosity. md, mishawaka, crown point... i call it the anti-underdog effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awood2 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 That is the beauty and the curse of wrestling. We always want to knock our heroes off the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-train Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 why do I keep getting negative cool points? anytime a person mentions anything about their "cool points" there is an automatic drop in cool points. it is a scientific fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBolt Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 You said it. Wrestling is personnal! My brothers and I played lots of sports and my family never got behind me like they did in wrestling. Football, basketball, swimming fans, they don't have that same emotional intensity. When that is your baby getting pounded you kinda lose it a little. I keep thinking of that video topic on indianamat.com about the crazy mom. I still love showing that to friends. Every match I go to, even the Purdue vs. Iowa match Friday, you can find 'Patrick's mom' as we call it. The one family member, usually a mom, who is so into the match she doesn't even realize that she is in the room with 200+ other fans. Nothing compares to wrestling. We love to hate each other. No disrespect, just pure intensity. Exactly! You'll never get me to believe Mater Dei loves Castle, nor does Castle Love Mater Dei. The athletes themselves may get along just fine, but the fans of BOTH programs typically are not going to invite each other to Sunday Brunch. It's the same story all over the state, Mish and Penn for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awood2 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Well, actually I would disagree with that. As many matches as I called in my life, coached, and wrestled in I have been invited to many a graduation party, fundraiser, and some of my best memories have been when I sat down with my biggest competition. I love to compete, but I also love getting to know the people who I have loved to hate. Matt Graham is still someone I can't wait to run into again. The Mishawaka fans are the hardest on you when you have a whistle in around your neck, but the greatest people when you just want to kick back. One of my best friends in the world coaches as Ben Davis, but still treated me like a ref everytime I walked on his mat. It is just part of the culture. It has nothing to do with you and me. It is the nature of the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FurgaSonic Posted February 15, 2011 Author Share Posted February 15, 2011 Wish. I woulda known that before posting lol I dropped 10 in less than 10 min Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBolt Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Well, actually I would disagree with that. As many matches as I called in my life, coached, and wrestled in I have been invited to many a graduation party, fundraiser, and some of my best memories have been when I sat down with my biggest competition. I love to compete, but I also love getting to know the people who I have loved to hate. Matt Graham is still someone I can't wait to run into again. The Mishawaka fans are the hardest on you when you have a whistle in around your neck, but the greatest people when you just want to kick back. One of my best friends in the world coaches as Ben Davis, but still treated me like a ref everytime I walked on his mat. It is just part of the culture. It has nothing to do with you and me. It is the nature of the sport. I was speaking more from teh Fan stand point. As an official, EVERYONE hates you. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awood2 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 See now you are proving my point. I want to punch you, but I am smiling at the same time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBolt Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 See now you are proving my point. I want to punch you, but I am smiling at the same time It's all in fun! But I get to punch you back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awood2 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 wahoo's for everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boot Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Now FANS...That's a different story! I have seen some of the WORST sportsmanship imaginable from fans of programs that I KNOW would not condone that same type of thing out of their athletes. I am taking about fans literally cussing and spitting at the family members of wrestlers from the opposing team, including my parents years ago. Do you judge the program based on the lack of class shown by a few of their supporters? I am afraid it's hard to separate the two completely. I would have to agree wholeheartedly. When I was little a fan was removed for throwing a trash can at the opposing team. I've seen parents yelling, cussing, spitting at their kid's opponent (I was the target of some of those myself). There are the teams you can always count on to be classless and yell and harass the other teams' kids. Last year at a tournament there were a group of parents who you could smell alcohol on from 10 feet away and kept taunting and trying to picks fights with the opposing wrestlers. It was at their place though and the cop standing next to them just smiled and did nothing. Teams and coaches: Nothing but respect for the work they put in. Fans: Mixed bag of great people and nutjobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Caller Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I believe that shaking hands is the classy think u can do after a match and how u shake hands after u lose tells alot about the wrestler. but the only time i never shook hands with the opposing coach only if they had priarly snuck in a smart comment to me when we shook hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior140 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I know its up to the coaches who shakes hands and who does not. I mean I'm glad my coach always made me shake hands and for the most part the other schools do too. When the match is over, its over. Its time to be a gentlemen and man up. If you get your butt kick and are ashamed of the butt whooping then get better. Its honor to go out there and wrestle and bust your butt in the gym to make varsity. To not shake hands because you are mad or upset makes no sense. I believe calmer heads always prevail, to show emoton in a negative way is to show weakness. I hear some coaches want to protect there kids. From what?? Have to grow up sooner or later. In the real world if you pull these stunts good luck moving ahead. No one likes losing, but there is nothing worse than a soar loser. Strict reflection of coaching. I know some kids who don't shake hands, but are the nicest kids in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greco4life Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I love the mater dei/reitz fans relationships. theres a definite a strong hate there.. I've seen family members, one family going to reitz/ the other to MD ready go out back and handle things the old fashion way over a reversal at the end of the third period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatertot34 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I am fairly new to being a wrestling fan. I played basketball in high school and never really cared for it let alone followed it. A friend of mine was a wrestler in high school and now his son is a wrestler so I have taken a liking to following him. Im still learning but find it a very enjoyable spectator sport. I was at the Merrillville semistate saturday and was watching all the matches and kept noticing the kids shaking the other coahes hands after the match regardless of outcome. I then noticed that the Crown Point kids did not and wondered why til i heard a member of the crowd say the their coaches do not allow it. I can understand in such a one on one competitive sport that you would want to keep that edge and not be friendly but isnt it also teaching a bad lesson at an early age? Im sure they have their philosophy as to why they tell their kids not to shake hands but Im not sure their positives outweigh the overall negatives. Just one persons opinion. some teams like ours believe that shaking hands just increases the rick of spreading more skin funk to more people. knuck it instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCard Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 some teams like ours believe that shaking hands just increases the rick of spreading more skin funk to more people. knuck it instead Yeah, definitely increases your chances when you shake someone hands more than the full body contact with another person for 6+ minutes, sweating and some times bleeding on them. Not to mention the mats that have been walked all over in between rounds that contain a whole lot of germs. I don't care if you shake or don't shake, just think that is a cop out for saying that we just really don't prefer to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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