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3A Team State Qualifying Scores (through regional)

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Scores will finally become relevant this week at semi-state in 3A. Underclassmen can score up to 9 and seniors can score 8 this week. Even the highest ranked teams at the moment in this class still need a good chunk of points to ensure their spot at Team State. Probably around 185 or 190 will be needed to get an automatic bid. 

Remember that the top team in each semi-state plus the next best 6 scores qualify automatically for Team State.

Rank Class 3A Teams Score Left pts available @ SS
1 Roncalli 168 11 98
2 Carmel 162 10 88
3 Warren Central 158 8 71
4 Indianapolis Cathedral 158 13 113
5 Chesterton 148 14 120
6 Perry Meridian 146 12 103
7 Brownsburg 142 10 85
8 Avon 140 12 104
9 Evansville Mater Dei 140 12 104
10 Columbus East 136 13 129
11 Merrillville 132 12 102
12 Mishawaka 131 9 86
13 North Central (Indianapolis) 130 5 42
14 Pendleton Heights 128 5 44
15 Penn 128 10 92
16 Zionsville 122 11 94
17 Northridge 122 9 76
18 Lake Central 118 5 45
19 Carroll (Fort Wayne) 117 7 60
20 Hamilton Southeastern 116 8 68
21 Portage 116 14 116
22 Jay County 115 8 76
23 Crown Point 114 11 93
24 Westfield 113 6 52
25 Castle 112 9 76
26 Plainfield 110 5 44
27 Martinsville 108 2 18
28 Noblesville 105 3 27
29 Goshen 105 5 42
30 Huntington North 105 6 53
31 Bloomington South 104 7 59
32 New Palestine 102 4 35
33 Lawrence North 102 6 51
34 LaPorte 102 5 43
35 Lowell 102 5 44
36 Anderson 101 2 18
37 Floyd Central 101 6 51
38 Fort Wayne Snider 101 5 43
39 McCutcheon 100 6 51
40 Seymour 100 7 84
41 Mount Vernon (Fortville) 99 4 36
42 Decatur Central 98 0 0
43 Greenfield-Central 98 6 51
44 Ben Davis 98 4 34
45 Hobart 98 6 49
46 Elkhart Central 97 7 59
47 Lawrence Central 96 5 44
48 Fishers 94 2 17
49 Harrison (West Lafayette) 94 7 62
50 Jeffersonville 93 6 63
51 Franklin Community 92 2 18
52 Mooresville 92 3 24
53 Homestead 92 6 51
54 Southport 90 4 34
55 Terre Haute South Vigo 86 3 27
56 Center Grove 85 5 42
57 Greenwood Community 83 3 25
58 Franklin Central 82 1 8
59 Evansville F.J. Reitz 81 4 33
60 Bloomington North 78 4 36
61 Plymouth 77 6 57
62 Evansville Central 76 4 35
63 Whiteland Community 73 2 16
64 Jennings County 73 6 60
65 Kankakee Valley 72 3 24
66 Fort Wayne Bishop Dwenger 70 2 17
67 Concord 69 2 16
68 South Bend Riley 69 3 39
69 East Central 68 3 32
70 Evansville Harrison 66 2 18
71 East Noble 66 2 17
72 Columbus North 63 4 45
73 Highland 62 2 16
74 Lafayette Jefferson 62 5 41
75 New Albany 61 4 32
76 Jasper 61 1 9
77 Michigan City 57 1 8
78 Elkhart Memorial 56 4 33
79 Munster 55 2 16
80 South Bend Adams 53 2 27
81 Fort Wayne South Side 52 2 16
82 Valparaiso 52 1 8
83 Shelbyville 49 1 9
84 Kokomo 49 0 0
85 Connersville 49 3 29
86 Muncie Central 49 2 21
87 Hammond Morton 48 4 33
88 Warsaw Community 48 1 15
89 Fort Wayne Northrop 47 1 8
90 Pike 46 0 0
91 Logansport 44 1 12
92 DeKalb 43 0 0
93 Fort Wayne North Side 42 1 8
94 East Chicago Central 41 0 0
95 Fort Wayne Wayne 39 1 8
96 Evansville North 37 1 8
97 Bedford North Lawrence 30 1 8
98 South Bend Clay 28 1 12
99 Richmond 24 0 0
100 Terre Haute North Vigo 23 0 0

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Could someone explain why we do automatic qualifers (top at each semi state). Seems like this only benefits a weaker team that can’t get enough points in a weaker semistate. History has shown that some automatic qualifiers have not performed well. Also.. I think that some teams from other semi states that are the top team at their semi state would do much better than the auto qualifier, if those teams were in a different area of the state. Just my opinion... but I believe that the top 8 should qualify (regardless of location) and vote in the rest. Maybe say that the top team from each semi state be considered for the vote in (if not in the top 8). Are we not trying to ensure the top teams get in? 

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1 minute ago, decbell1 said:

Carroll will be one of the top 12 teams next year amongst teams that don’t decline bids, I’ll bet you a $13 veggie wrap at next year’s duals MattyB

Northridge could put a serious road block in the Carroll team state qualifier streak.

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from years ago at the meeting when the concept of team state started in this fashion and then evolved into the larger fomat this was the thought:

make sure there are teams from each semi-state.  Under the "old format" when IHSAA ran the team state duals a  team from every semi-state would qualify

in most sports (basketball, football, baseball, etc..) as you work toward state you have one team from each semi-state making the finals four and then the two moving on.  If the number one and number 2 teams would beat each other out at sectionals only one would move on.

so much of the automatic qualifier is to get representation from the entire state - but allowing the point system here to hopefully bring back in some of the top teams - which is why the format has grown to encompass more teams

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10 minutes ago, Mattyb said:

Could someone explain why we do automatic qualifers (top at each semi state). Seems like this only benefits a weaker team that can’t get enough points in a weaker semistate. History has shown that some automatic qualifiers have not performed well. Also.. I think that some teams from other semi states that are the top team at their semi state would do much better than the auto qualifier, if those teams were in a different area of the state. Just my opinion... but I believe that the top 8 should qualify (regardless of location) and vote in the rest. Maybe say that the top team from each semi state be considered for the vote in (if not in the top 8). Are we not trying to ensure the top teams get in? 

I think it kind of works that way now.    Not that I'm aware that there's a weak semi-state,   but the top team at the weak semi-state would be 10th and the other 9  top scoring teams automatically get in.       Add in the fact that 3 or 4 of the teams like last year will drop out (at least in 3A), then the top 12 scoring teams will have a shot.  Generally top 15 scoring will have a shot.   Which in a relevant point,  I hope Merrillville, Cathedral and Crown Point got their thank you note from Harrison for  dropping out and getting them a slot. They had an enjoyable time at "Team State" this year.   Perry Meridian also should have been sending the thank you note also.

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18 minutes ago, decbell1 said:

Carroll will be one of the top 12 teams next year amongst teams that don’t decline bids, I’ll bet you a $13 veggie wrap at next year’s duals MattyB

This wasn’t directed at one team, but the system. Carroll maybe a top twelve team. With this said, they are not a top 8 team. If any team is not top 8... let them be considered in the vote in like the other vote in caliber teams. 

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4 minutes ago, Mattyb said:

This wasn’t directed at one team, but the system. Carroll maybe a top twelve team. With this said, they are not a top 8 team. If any team is not top 8... let them be considered in the vote in like the other vote in caliber teams. 

I think Carroll went into the 10 spot last year.  The top 9 scoring teams get priority consideration.

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