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Heartbreaker for James losing 2-2 in the 3rd. Great match, and sooo close to the exposure on the last takedown.
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Sometimes the bracketing and scoring works out in your favor: All these guys finished 4-2 in Cadet 132: Mudd (losses only to Top 3) Marriott (losses only to Top 3) Wright (losses to Mudd and Top 3) Champagne (losses to Wright and Top 3) You'd have to rate Champagne 4th out of this group, but he gets the nod for All-American honors because of 2 falls and a tech.
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It's really tough to sift through all the duals results on that AAU link. Is there any place that you can look at Pool standings or bracketed championship results?
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IHSAA approves a 6th class in football
maligned replied to infowrestling's topic in Past Discussions
Wow. Enormous advantage being in the new 5A compared to 4A. Only 32 schools with enrollment between about 1500 and 2000 compared to 64 schools with enrollment between 1200 and 1500. Not sure how well thought out that was. I could understand having a smaller 6A class for the very large schools, but the other 5 classes should be distributed more evenly in my opinion. I also agree that the 2-year success rule seems strange. Our football team stank when I was a junior and senior. A loaded class of D1 talent became juniors the year after I left and we were awesome for 2 years. Then we became bad again when those kids graduated. One loaded class is enough to force us to move up a class and get pounded for two years after the good kids leave? -
To add to what MattM said, the ridiculous bracketing is actually a regular topic of discussion. It's not only a random draw (which I don't like, but I could get over), but it pushes ALL the byes to one side of the bracket. At the Olympics, men's weights will have 19-20 wrestlers and women's will have 18-19. So, a typical men's weight will have 8 guys on one side and 11-12 on the other. This significantly increases the chances that the best 2 guys don't meet in the final. It's even worse at other tournaments, where there may be 24 guys--resulting in 16 on one side and 8 on the other. It's downright silly. You can easily have the 15th best guy in the semi-finals with this system. I will say this, though; for the Olympics, the worldwide qualifying system was stringent enough that you're not going to have any non-wrestling nations occupying semi-finals spots. There will only be 2 or 3 potential "gimme" opponents in each weight.
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Wildcat, I wrote this on another thread: I enjoy reading your posts and appreciate the effort to draw out a little international talk. Truth be told, I get bored of some of the same regurgitated discussions too (and I was serious when I said I check out other boards more right now). My only point was that I'm not sure we should have any other expectation from a high school site than that there's a lot of high school or ex-indiana high schooler talk (that focuses on their high school career maybe more than college or int'l).
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Come on, man. I enjoy reading your posts and appreciate the effort to draw out a little international talk. Truth be told, I get bored of some of the same regurgitated discussions too. My only point was that I'm not sure we should have any other expectation from a high school site than that there's a lot of high school or ex-indiana high schooler talk. I like Simmons, too, but I wasn't sold on his chances for a medal despite his run at worlds. I'm not sold on Hazewinkel's chances either (he just lost this weekend to the European champ Turk that Obe Blanc beat at the same tournament), but I don't mind giving someone different a shot. It's just such a close weight class among about 5 guys in the U.S., I'm not sure there's a clear-cut #1. That, for me, means it's not our strongest division.
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NAIA career.
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Bunch wins the second match, 1-1, 1-0, 1-0. Scott comes back to take the third match and the Olympic berth, 1-0, 6-0, punctuated by a 5-point throw to end it.
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Scott beats Bunch in their first match. Another ball draw win in the first. Bunch gets a push-out in the second. Scott dominates the third. His 5-0 record with a win over a world bronze medalist at the World Cup had people saying Scott was the favorite today. I guess they had good reason. Next match at 7:25 pm if the event is on schedule.
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I hate the ball grab! Lose a ball grab. Score a takedown. Lose a ball grab. You lose. Sorry, Hump. I really hope you're up for another 4 years so we can keep watching you.
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Ha. An Indy boy from soon after your arrival in the area who went on to be a Buckeye? Hard to imagine you remaining very neutral.
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Completely agree. Even if his family needed to move to Mishawaka, he'd just drive a few minutes to school every day and finish his career at Jimtown.
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I don't know why, but I couldn't get that promo video link to work. I got it to work from here, though, in case anyone else had problems: http://www.flowrestling.org/speaker/1070-Reece-Humphrey/video/639633-Ithaka-NY-State-Of-Mind
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The entire "Grapple in the Apple" event will be broadcast live from Times Square on www.universalsports.com starting at 6pm tomorrow. Reece wrestles Scott at 1pm, but if he wins, his 2 or 3 matches with Bunch will be shown live in their entirety on the evening broadcast. The first match of the series is at 6pm, then the second match will be at 7:25, and the final match at 8:20 if necessary. In between these matches will be a USA vs. Russia dual meet involving most of the U.S. Olympic team against Russia's top young prospects (a couple of Junior world champs and several young guys who placed 3rd-5th in last month's Russian nationals). If you can make it to Times Square, by the way, it's a free admission event that will be projected on the largest LED screen in Times Square simultaneous to the actual matches on the street. I'd love to be there!
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It's funny that people would discuss Indiana high school wrestling on an Indiana high school wrestling board--and repeatedly, at that. Crazies. I know all the names you mention, have watched some of them live, and have seen most of them at least on video. I still enjoy discussions like this thread and find it quite normal for a high school board. If you need an outlet, there's lots of good international and olympic discussion right now on the usawrestling and tom boards. That's where I'm getting my fix. Or, you could start a thread about Times Square, for example, and we'd happily chime in. Have a nice day.
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Tom Skinner from Goshen?
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That much is clear, for sure. The question was posed as this: if they were both seniors in high school at the same weight, who wins?
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Even the freshman discussion of one loss versus two losses seems silly. Howe lost only to a senior with loads of national success and Tsirtsis (although he did lose one perplexing match to a guy he dominated other times) avenged his most famous loss in beating a senior that became a Fargo national champ. These 2 would have been an amazing matchup at any equal grade year.
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Ha. They must have added that article just a couple minutes after my post.
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I'm actually not sure what's going on now. The official write-up about the Beat-the-Streets event is now on themat.com, but it says that the Bunch/Humphrey/Scott qualifier will be wrestled at a yet-to-be-determined date and place. I thought it was all but decided they would do it at "Beat the Streets." Not sure what's up.
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Assuming all are seniors in high school: Howe over Alex, 4-2, with Howe mostly controlling the action. Jason over Howe, 5-4. Jason is so polished right now for a high schooler. I think he could have gotten a couple early takedowns on Howe and then Andrew would have pushed the pace late and made it a nail-biter. Howe was dominant at Fargo, etc., his senior year, but slightly less dominant than Jason. This doesn't mean I think Jason will ascend to the level Howe is at (one of the best in the world at his weight and one of the best in the U.S. at any weight). Howe has worked unbelievably hard. If Jason works as hard as Howe has, though, the sky is the limit.
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In Times Square, June 7, at the Beat the Streets event.
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Unfortunately, he's in the same weight class as the United States' best wrestler--world champion Jordan Burroughs. Howe lost to him in the first match of the Olympic Trials finals best-of-3 series (4-2, 1-2, 1-0), while hurting his knee in the last 30 seconds. He could not come back and wrestle the second match of the series. There are rumors that Burroughs is interested in going MMA. Let's cheer hard for him to win gold this summer; maybe he'll win and then head that direction. An argument could be made--as strong as Howe is against everyone else at his weight--that he is the 2nd or 3rd best wrestler at any weight in the United States and would be a gold medal contender at the Olympics. He's just behind a buzz saw right now--but I'm confident we'll see him stay in shape and make a run at 2016.
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So to be clear: two of Scott's wins this weekend were over one of the two World bronze medalists from last year and one of the two fifth placers from last year. As a result, people on the national boards are anointing him our best medal contender at 60kg. Having seen the world championship matches last year, though, I really feel Hump just kind of blew it in the quarters. He lost to a Frenchman that lost the bronze to a Japanese that I thought at the time Hump could have beaten. That Japanese is the one Scott beat this weekend. It's definitely not cut and dried for me that Scott is the new favorite.