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2018 regional at North my wrestler was wrestling a kid from MD that was on his way to tech falling us. I’m the process he illegally slammed my kid and automatically I knew we would continue the match, or at least restart, then default and give them the victory. But for a moment, we sure had the MD coaching staff sweating. Which I reassured them there is no way i would default a match purposely default a match just to get a win. Their kid went on to win regional, then qualify for state.

So if Boonville gets voted in for 2A, that will make 4 teams from the newly expanded Pocket athletic Conference (PAC) participating at team state next season. That would bring the number of previous PAC teams participating at team state to 8

heritage hills

gibson southern

tecumseh

southridge

north posey

tell city

Mt Vernon (new PAC team)

possibly Boonville (new PAC team)

i know this this is silly question, but does that make the PAC the best wrestling conference in Indiana?

im kidding, but that is a pretty interesting statistic. What are the most teams from other conferences to have qualified?

3 hours ago, RaiderColfax said:

Correction, portage beat MD in ‘04 then lost to LN in the semis. Give us some credit for being the first team ever to beat MD in the team state dual format lmao

You are correct, I apologize. Funny, I was at that event in 04 watching and still forgot who beat MD that year  

4 hours ago, PhillyFanMD said:

Things went downhill after Coach Svarkopf and Deckard left

That’s a crazy statement to say considering the two years following the 03 Mater Dei team, Lawrence North did win team state, beat MD in the process both years

Crazy to think that if it wasn’t for Griffith, they may have had 7 champions, or at least 7 finalists

I thought it was 6-5 at team state and 9-3 at Mason

Deffendol is out and Omar Mora from Washington moves in to the bracket as the 4th seed against Morrill from Columbus East. Farmer (ev memorial) took the place of Purdy and Purdy moves to Deffendol’s place

It is possible to get close to that with the right scheduling.

Tourneys that I know that have 8-10 matches are 

War on the Wabash

PAC Conference Duals

Evansville Harrison 10 Way

Madison Cub Classic

Scottsburg Warrior Classic

22 minutes ago, TripleB said:

Weight class sleepers - 

 

220 Joshua Howell (How did I miss a one loss returning SQ?)

Probably missed him as a sleeper because he would possibly have to meet a returning state placer in the ticket round.

28 minutes ago, TripleB said:

 

Those HWTS were goooooooooooooodddddd.... like Stupid good..... Whatever happened to those guys. 

Well I think one of them just made that comment  

McCain went on to be a 2x JUCO all American (3rd, 2nd) at Iowa Central, transferred and wrestled a season at IU, and currently is the head coach at Pike Central. 

Not sure on the other two

I believe top 3 at heavyweight in 96-97 at Evansville (then it was Seymour) SemiState were top 3 at State.

Willis of Southport, Bentz of Madison, and Massey of Martinsville. McCain of Pike Central, the 4th place in that semistate, lost in overtime on Friday night the the eventual 4th place at state, so that was a close challenge to that 171 bracket that same year

I’m pretty sure Mater Dei had 11 qualify in 1996. That was the year they had 10 wrestlers in the semistate finals

No, I’m referring back to a post to where someone said a person who wrestles a lesser schedule with a 34-1 record- they were saying if it wasn’t a strong schedule then the 34-1 record is only worth the paper it was written on.

my point was I had kids that had losing records wrestling a tougher schedule than some kids that had winning record in a not so tough schedule. And when they would wrestle said wrestlers with the much better records. 

The person who I was referring to said strength of schedule matter now, not what your record is.  I was simply saying that’s not always the case.

Strength of schedule has some factor, but not the main factor. 

My next to last year I coached at Washington, we wrestled a schedule that included cathedral, warren central, Avon, center Grove, Columbus east, reitz, jasper, heritage hills, and Gibson southern, and mt Vernon.

all those teams that year were either state ranked or participated in team state. I had 5 wrestlers in my lineup that had losing records heading into sectional. None of those kids advanced to regional, losing to kids from teams that most definitely didn’t have a better schedule than us. Sometimes a kid from a “lesser” team that’s 30-1 will just beat a kid that 20–15 that wrestled the tougher schedule. It happens. 

1 hour ago, Jayruss said:

It’s time for another realignment. Castle sectional needs another solid name in the sectional maybe a Reitz, or anyone at this point. The Central sectional is one of the strongest whereas the Castle sectional is one of the weakest in the state. Surely they can do a shuffle there for balance.

Within the last 6 years, 4 of the current teams in the castle sectional have been in team state, also 4 teams from the central sectional in that same timeframe . So I’d say there is a good balance.

No need for realignment, it’s just a down year. Just because Castle isn’t the 2nd best team in southwestern indiana this year and Boonville, Memorial, and Heritage Hills are having slightly down years compared to recent years doesn’t mean we need to jump the gun and realign. The Castle Sectional has a shot of 8 state qualifiers (give or take a few). That’d be a nice down year to have.

4 hours ago, slice60 said:

113 at Southport may qualify as the most unusual bracket. 10 team field.

 

#1 seed Cottey (Perry) 27-0 State ranked 1 

#2 seed Glithero (Roncalli) 21-4 State ranked 15

#3 seed 0-15 freshman

#4 seed 0-12 freshman

6 Forfeits

 

Somebody's gonna get their hand raised for the 1st time in the 3rd place match. And maybe one of them can pull off a shocker in the Regional & punch their ticket to Semi-State with just 1 win.

They would actually have their hands raised the first time in the consolation semifinals (against a forfeit )

but honestly, that would be pretty crazy to have one or two wins and make it to semistate

11 minutes ago, graham said:

 

Well if that’s the case than whether you’re undefeated or not doesn’t really mean anything considering the variance in competition. 
 

You can’t compare a wrestler who seeks out top level national competition with one who has only wrestled in their back yard. 

I don’t believe any wrestler that is in our state truly has a choice whether they can seek out top level national competition or only wrestle in their back yard.....in season. Understandably you can seek out whoever you want to wrestle in the offseason, but in season they are at the mercy of their coaches and AD’s. And if someone beats everyone that’s put in front of them, whether it’s back yard or not, thats great, and only a handful of people in the state do it every year. 

As as far as the post on Jordy Fulks, Boonville has wrestled local teams (pretty much every southwestern indiana team in PAC, Big 8, and SIAC, I believe except Gibson southern, forest park, and Mater Dei), and also wrestled Union County, KY. 

1 hour ago, gsmith58 said:

 

Just guessing, but what about:

That one kid from Crown Point,

Bryce Lowery,

Logan Miller (in State),

Elijah Anthony,

Blake Wolf,

Ray Rioux (in State),

Ben Dalton,

Gavin Alstott (in State)

That one kid from Crown Point has a loss 

https://www.trackwrestling.com/predefinedtournaments/MainFrame.jsp?newSession=false&TIM=1579711907157&pageName=

In 2006 Forest park had a Hopf boy that i believe was 6’9” that wrestled 189. Finished out his career as a heavyweight

Some coaches are their school’s athletic directors. That’s a possibility for things being changed sometimes 

With Fitts dq’d at the Classic, would he be able to wrestle at team state?

I know milanes from jasper was in their lineup this week at 106

all the Gibson southern wrestlers you mentioned are in their lineup 

I believe jasper now goes the Spartan Classic as well

When did Edgewood start going to new castle? It shows Koontz ranked at 138