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To add to what Tyson has already stated. A reasoning behind this format was so that there'd be teams from across the state while still giving legitimate state title contenders an opportunity to compete. Having the top scoring team per semi-state allows for representation from 4 different areas of the state, with the remaining wildcard bids being earned by top programs.

My guess is (and I'm just guessing) that they'll take the top 8 like they normally do with team scores. Then the 4 wrestlers who'll lose in the conso. 1st round will wrestleback for 9th and 10th with no team scores awarded. Again, total guess.

These are the totals that I came up with between 1st and 2nd from '03. Mater Dei 161 Griffith 84

I did that here. http://indianamat.com/messageboard/index.php/topic,21387.0.html

Here are the finals. http://www.livestream.com/ihsaa/video?clipId=pla_f90df454-83c2-4406-80c2-e465fdb1fc1e&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb

Here are the top 10 for each field. Perry dominates the Coaches Trophy, while the New Castle claims toughest SS despite Merrillville's 8 champs. Perry has the strongest regional as Crown Point edges out Indy Washington for sectionals. *knock on wood that I tracked these scores right* Coaches Trophy Perry Meridian 119 Cathedral 73 Crown Point 66 Hanover Central 61 Yorktown 53 Evansville Mater Dei 47 Merrillville 46 Lake Central 40 Bellmont 32 Lawrence North 31 South Adams 31 Semi-State New Castle 429 Merrillville 400 FW Snider 271.5 Evans. Reitz 264 Regionals Perry Meridian 176.5 Jay County 171 Crown Point 133 Pendleton Heights 130 Rochester 113 Calumet 92 Castle 91.5 Mooresville 91.5 North Montgomery 77.5 Logansport 62 Sectionals Crown Point 127 Indy Washington 123 Lawrence Central 104 Jay County 89 Delta 82 Zionsville 77.5 Mooresville 67.5 Evans. Central 63 Plymouth 58 Mishawaka 55

I'll have scores posted up later tonight. Nothing official, but I've been keeping track.

Scores... New Castle 139.5 Merrillville 123.5 Evansville 99 Fort Wayne 95.5 (Headin to work now)

These are the semi-state scores that I counted up. New Castle 88.5 Evansville 79 Merrillville 76 Fort Wayne 65.5

I'm pretty certain Minton was at 40 for Jeff Classic. I know for a fact he wasn't at 145 because I was there. Minton and Rossbottom must've met during the regular season a couple of times also because he had several losses on the season. One being to Jankowski as well. But back to the point of semi-state wrestlebacks. Yes, this is one of the 2 biggest reasons for having them. Even if Rossbottom would've won at regionals, you'd have had a Minton/Jankowski ticket round match. No reason for the #2 and #3 guys going at it in an elimination match before state. The other reason, for me, is a freak accident. In that same semi-state as the Jankowski/Rossbottom match, my teammate Andrew Wolf was wrestling. He was ranked #1 heading into that tournament. He was beating his kid comfortably and had an illegal move called against him. The kid used all his injury time and took the victory. Andrew didn't even have a chance to finish the match or get to wrestleback to prove that he lost by a freak accident (not by inferior skill). We need wrestlebacks for these 2 reasons alone.

Heritage Hills is by no means a shoe-in to qualify. Right now, they're in that 6th and final automatic slot with 2 wrestlers to go. They're holding off Leo by about 5 points who has 4 SQ's, and Yorktown by 6 points with 5 SQ's. If one or the other outperforms HH this week, you can expect some changes in the standings. The differential is very small, so any points these wrestlers can come up with will be critical.

Definitely the PM-Cathedral show. PM gets 9 thru with 8 finalists, and Cathedral has 8 SQ's and 4 finalists. There are 3 head to heads at 160, 170, and 285.

"1. Two points for the first takedown, three for each additional." Is it the first takedown between both wrestlers ONLY that's worth 2 points? or is it the first takedown for both wrestlers that's worth 2 points? For example: I take down my opponent for the first takedown. That's 2 points. I let him up and then he takes me down. Does he get 2 points, since it was technically his first takedown also, or does he receive 3 points? I like the idea of a 3 point takedown. I'd just rather it'd be for wrestlers who put their opponents on their backs but weren't able to hold them for exposure points.

Dillon will score points if he advances to the next scoring level. Meaning he'll have to win at least one match tomorrow, otherwise he stays at the level he was eliminated at originally.

Fixed. Yes, The remaining wrestlers that I tallied up are separate from the team scores that maligned has posted. Let's be clear on that. I might've missed one or two, but it'll give some perspective for coaches on where their teams are vs. the teams they are competing against, scoring-wise.

West Central 125.50 - 5

Here are the scores with # of wrestlers remaining along side them. Class 3A Teams Total - Wrestlers remaining *Lake Central 218.53 - 12 *Bloomington South 212.12 - 12 *Indy Cathedral 211.68 - 13 $Perry Meridian 203.12 - 13 $Floyd Central 199.00 - 8 Portage 194.82 - 8 Crown Point 189.58 - 12 Franklin 186.66 - 8 *Elkhart Memorial 183.73 - 10 Merrillville 179.67 - 12 Hamilton Southeastern 178.46 - 9 Ev. Mater Dei 177.14 - 13 Noblesville 176.35 - 4 Avon 176.21 - 5 Huntington North 169.99 - 7 Center Grove 168.57 - 9 Valparaiso 168.45 - 3 Penn 167.71 - 11 Kokomo 167.44 - 10 Connersville 166.23 - 4 Lawrence Central 165.48 - 6 Lowell 164.88 - 9 East Noble 163.87 - 8 Carroll (FW) 163.25 - 7 Greenfield-Central 161.46 - 7 East Central 161.03 - 5 Munster 160.80 - 3 New Palestine 160.77 - 8 Harrison (WL) 160.02 - 6 Fishers 157.80 - 6 FW Snider 154.93 - 8 Jennings County 154.83 - 9 Jeffersonville 154.41 - 7 Chesterton 154.38 - 5 New Haven 153.60 - 1 New Albany 152.02 - 5 Hobart 151.03 - 7 Mishawaka 149.71 - 7 Ben Davis 149.26 - 4 S.B. Clay 149.20 - 9 S.B. Riley 147.86 - 7 LaPorte 146.25 - 3 Warren Central 141.87 - 5 Terre Haute South 140.01 - 3 Brownsburg 138.79 - 4 Franklin Central 138.11 - 3 Westfield 137.25 - 7 Hammond Morton 134.32 - 5 Columbus East 133.32 - 3 Martinsville 130.82 - 6 Ev. Reitz 130.04 - 9 Zionsville 130.04 - 4 Columbus North 129.21 - 3 Castle 128.93 - 4 Mooresville 125.26 - 4 Roncalli 125.24 - 7 Warsaw 123.89 - 2 Plymouth 123.67 - 1 Lawrence North 123.32 - 6 Jay County 115.69 - 2 Kankakee Valley 115.16 - 3 DeKalb 114.52 - 6 Plainfield 114.00 - 3 McCutcheon 112.48 - 5 Carmel 112.30 - 2 Logansport 112.13 - 4 Goshen 111.39 - 3 Terre Haute North 111.15 - 2 Indy Arsenal Tech 110.00 - 1 Northridge 109.54 - 2 Highland 107.00 - 1 Northview 106.92 - 3 Ev. Central 105.25 - 3 S.B. Washington 105.06 - 3 FW Wayne 104.76 - 3 Seymour 104.06 - 1 Richmond 102.38 - 2 Pendleton Heights 101.57 - 5 Ev. North 97.43 - 3 Laffayette Jeff 96.61 - 3 New Castle 92.16 - 5 Marion 91.69 - 3 Ev. Harrison 90.85 - 2 Anderson 90.84 - 1 FW Northrop 90.52 - 4 Columbia City 90.37 - 1 Greenwood 86.65 - 2 Homestead 85.76 - 3 Bedford North Lawrence 84.67 - 1 Michigan City 82.37 - 2 S.B. Adams 78.16 - 2 North Central (Indy) 77.91 - 3 Shelbyville 75.99 - 1 Concord 74.76 - 1 FW South Side 74.05 - 1 Gary West Side 71.00 - 1 Elkhart Central 66.76 - 5 East Chicago Central 66.74 - 0 FW North Side 63.56 - 3 Decatur Central 55.81 - 0 Southport 47.57 - 2 Pike 45.84 - 3 Bloomington North 43.50 - 1 Whiteland 31.64 - 0 Mount Vernon (Fortville) 27.80 - 0 Class 2A Teams Total - Wrestlers remaining *Ev. Memorial 294.18 - 6 *Jimtown 266.23 - 7 $Heritage Hills 241.97 - 3 $Danville 240.00 - 4 Leo 236.67 - 5 *Delphi 205.32 - 5 *North Montgomery 198.02 - 5 Culver Academies 197.71 - 4 Benton Central 189.08 - 4 New Prairie 188.12 - 3 Garrett 182.81 - 4 Jasper 182.71 - 7 FW Bishop Dwenger 182.26 - 4 Southmont 181.03 - 7 Lebanon 180.35 - 3 Edgewood 176.40 - 3 Yorktown 176.34 - 7 Peru 175.56 - 4 Glenn 175.10 - 3 Muncie Southside 173.86 - 7 FW Concordia Lutheran 172.42 - 1 Rensselear Central 171.85 - 7 Indian Creek 171.84 - 3 FW Bishop Luers 168.24 - 2 Greencastle 168.08 - 4 Wawasee 162.16 - 3 Bellmont 155.88 - 8 Twin Lakes 155.11 - 6 Madison 154.74 - 5 Hanover Central 151.94 - 3 Boonville 149.12 - 0 Princeton 146.55 - 2 Western 146.08 - 5 Sullivan 145.80 - 2 Tippecanoe 145.36 - 1 Woodlan 144.90 - 2 Angola 144.50 - 3 Cascade 144.12 - 2 Griffith 143.65 - 4 NorthWood 143.31 - 2 Washington 142.31 - 6 Western Boone 138.70 - 2 Indy Bishop Chatard 132.69 - 2 Gibson Southern 131.52 - 2 South Deaborn 130.46 - 2 Frankfort 125.13 - 1 Mount Vernon 122.15 - 3 Rushville 121.82 - 3 Charlestown 120.96 - 4 Fairfield 119.82 - 2 Whitko 118.41 - 1 Norwell 117.63 - 2 South Vermillion 117.34 - 1 Lawrenceburg 116.27 - 4 Calumet 115.70 - 1 Centerville 111.23 - 4 Lakeland 110.89 - 0 Greensburg 110.32 - 3 S.B. St Joseph's 109.74 - 0 Maconaquah 109.12 - 4 Hammond Gavit 108.16 - 1 Rochester 107.86 - 1 West Noble 106.84 - 2 Tipton 106.16 - 2 Brown County 102.45 - 3 Vincennes Lincoln 101.01 - 1 W. Laffayette 100.88 - 1 Hamilton Heights 98.98 - 0 Indy Howe Academy 97.10 - 1 Andrean 95.80 - 0 Delta 95.05 - 0 Pike Central 90.90 - 1 Mishawaka Marian 89.75 - 1 Tri-West Hendricks 87.66 - 0 Batesville 87.47 - 2 Scottsburg 85.98 - 2 Heritage 85.80 - 3 West Vigo 85.13 - 1 Indy Northwest 82.16 - 1 Crawfordsville 81.91 - 1 Franklin County 80.89 - 4 Mississinewa 80.50 - 0 North Putnam 77.10 - 0 Muncie Central 75.99 - 1 Eastbrook 71.69 - 1 Knox 69.24 - 0 Boone Grove 67.21 - 0 Blackford 63.78 - 1 Beech Grove 59.29 - 1 Guerin Catholic 55.93 - 0 Corydon Central 51.71 - 1 Mitchell 48.20 - 2 Indy Manual 45.82 - 1 Northwestern 45.43 - 1 Brebeuf Jesuit 44.08 - 0 Hammond 43.71 - 1 Owen Valley 42.72 - 0 Hammond Clark 41.24 - 1 Indy Broad Ripple 37.41 - 1 Ev. Bosse 33.83 - 0 Gary Wallace 26.18 - 0 Salem 24.35 - 0 Indy Arlington 12.96 - 0 Gary Roosevelt 12.73 - 0 Class 1A Teams Total - Wrestlers remaining *Adams Central 264.54 - 8 $Churubusco 222.89 - 1 $South Adams 212.87 - 7 *Bremen 193.51 - 3 *South Putnam 191.92 - 2 Cass 186.99 - 4 North Miami 186.34 - 5 Fremont 182.04 - 1 *Milan 175.10 - 4 Prairie Heights 172.73 - 2 Clinton Central 168.75 - 1 South Spencer 164.43 - 3 Oak Hill 161.61 - 5 Tecumseh 159.95 - 0 North Posey 152.43 - 3 Union County 151.15 - 3 Southwood 151.01 - 2 Central Noble 150.80 - 0 Shenandoah 149.25 - 4 Frankton 147.49 - 3 Winamac 145.82 - 2 Culver 144.60 - 1 Tri-Central 144.36 - 2 Union City 142.01 - 2 Southridge 137.77 - 5 Winchester 137.56 - 2 North White 134.39 - 0 Triton Central 133.41 - 0 Alexandria 129.59 - 5 Northfield 128.92 - 3 Elwood 125.79 - 1 West Central 125.50 - 5 Wood Memorial 124.79 - 0 Westview 124.56 - 1 Wapahani 122.85 - 1 Paoli 122.77 - 3 Eastside 121.51 - 2 River Forest 121.01 - 3 Seeger Memorial 120.68 - 1 Tell City 118.75 - 0 Cloverdale 117.83 - 0 LaVille 117.16 - 0 Indy Scecina 116.85 - 0 Lapel 116.47 - 1 Taylor 115.90 - 3 Manchester 114.60 - 3 Triton Central 114.49 - 0 Monrovia 111.95 - 0 Monroe Central 109.42 - 3 Hagerstown 109.01 - 1 Indy Crispus Attucks 108.60 - 0 Fountain Central 108.23 - 4 Wes-Del 107.25 - 1 Clinton Prairie 105.30 - 0 North Newton 104.73 - 1 Providence 104.31 - 0 Indy Cardinal Ritter 102.59 - 0 Eastern (Pekin) 102.53 - 0 North Vermillion 100.34 - 0 North Knox 98.00 - 1 Knightstown 97.64 - 1 Southern Wells 96.55 - 2 Carroll (Flora) 95.91 - 0 Lake Station Edison 94.17 - 3 South Newton 94.12 - 1 Sheridan 93.61 - 0 Covington 91.80 - 2 Southwestern (Hanover) 87.02 - 2 Forest Park 85.42 - 1 Northeastern 84.38 - 2 North Judson-San Pierre 81.93 - 1 New Washington 81.56 - 3 Speedway 79.65 - 0 Pioneer 78.51 - 1 Eastern Hancock 77.16 - 1 Rossville 75.99 - 0 Oldenburg Academy 74.59 - 1 Hammond Bishop Noll 73.43 - 1 Frontier 72.21 - 0 Caston 71.78 - 1 Cambridge City Lincoln 69.28 - 0 Eastern (Greentown) 66.50 - 1 Indy Washington 66.45 - 0 Tri 65.40 - 2 Rockville 63.99 - 1 Hebron 62.73 - 0 Christian Academy of Indiana 62.20 - 0 Bluffton 61.02 - 2 Blue River Valley 58.33 - 0 Attica 48.73 - 0 Laffayette Central Catholic 46.40 - 0 Switzerland County 45.15 - 0 Park Tudor 44.08 - 0 Randolph Southern 43.50 - 0 Turkey Run 42.30 - 0 Indiana School for the Deaf 39.96 - 0 Daleville 38.25 - 0 Whiting 34.19 - 0 Madison-Grant 25.85 - 0 Crawford County 25.60 - 0 Howe Military 21.19 - 0 Wabash 9.36 - 0 Indy Marshall 0.00 - 0

Thx for the work Joe!

Correct. The multiplier will be included in all points earned from sectionals thru the 1st round of semi-state. Points earned from the 2nd round of semi-state and beyond will exclude the multiplier.

The multiplier is a part of the scoring system up to and thru the first round of semi-state.

The reason why I posted that is just to show that it's not as difficult to become a member as it's been made out to be. The information is right there in the main page of the IHSWCA website. Anyone that's savvy enough to come to indianamat, navigate the website, and read through any of the threads from this messageboard. Is more than capable of printing out a membership form. With that being said, I do agree with everything that you've stated. When the IHSWCA is looking to grow numbers, the most important thing (which happens to also be the most basic) is communication. I'm sure there are more people, like yourself, that are trying to reach out to the association. This is actually my first year in the association, and I've had emails gone unanswered. For me, I just brush it off. However, for some, I can see how that might rub people the wrong way. Coach Struck is setting a good example for how the IHSWCA should be ran (as far as communicatin is concerned), and I hope this continues.

http://www.ihswca.com/membershipform.pdf For you non-IHSWCA members. Just print this out, fill it out, mail it in and you'll be a member. Maybe Y2 can pin this to the top of the page. ;D

The plan is to give updated scores after each round of the tournament.

ttipton, Just to clarify, 6 teams (top scoring team in each semi-state and top 2 wildcards) will be determined by the scoring system only, while 2 are determined by committee selection (1 being selected after individual state, and the final team being selected during the season of the event). With 2 teams being selected via coaches' vote, that should take care of most anomalies that you speak of. Also, if there had been an event this year, every team that was a threat for a state title would've been invited. You name them, they would've been there.

Is Indianapolis Marshall not going to be participating? This sectional is listed as having 11 teams on the IHSAA and Indianamat pages. However, trackwrestling has only 10 teams listed, with Indianapolis Marshall being the absent team.