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  1. School size matters for TEAMS not individuals. More practice partners wont make better practice partners and so on. If you took the whole student population of garret and swapped it out with the same number of kids from a large school there would likely be just as many good wrestlers from the new population as the old. Its just due to the probability of having and exceptional athlete within a certain sample size. Obviously the larger the sample size the higher the probability. Now this isn't saying that a big schools exceptional wrestlers are any better than a small schools exceptional wrestlers... This is determined by the effort and time they spend on the mat. "The kids will start at a younger age and they will also choose wrestling over the other sports during the off-season. I would venture to say state qualifiers do more in the offseason than semi-state qualifiers, and semi-state qualifiers put more time in the offseason than regional qualifiers, and so on. Would you not agree?" So your saying the exact same thing the other guy is... The way you get better is by investing more time and energy into the sport... not by simply being at a big school
  2. The sample sizes would be the same time at the begining of the tourney but the fact is the sample size is the actual population of the school. Obv a school with thousands of kids can find 14 that are pretty good at wrestling. When you multiply that by the number of large schools it quantifies this probability. Now at smaller schools with a smaller school population they are a lot less likely to even have 2 or 3 good wrestlers per team. Meaning you have a better chance of picking 100 kids than i would have even if i could pick all the kids in every small school. Second paragraph: How will these kids wrestle any more when they don't have the free time because of other sports? They wont be any better than the average kids who already do this... I think you pretty much elude to the fact earlier in here that more kids wont necessarily make the good kids better. If kids want to make it to the state level it comes down to the fact kids at bigger schools are able to spend more time concentrating on wrestling. I get this from "On top of that, kids that maybe were in the go-to round or just a qualifier put more time into the sport so they can get to that next level. If a couple kids are putting in extra work, it's easier for them to get a couple more to come along...and so on." So it comes down to the fact its not about having more kids on the team its about the kids that are already on the team spending more time on the mats.....
  3. If it was a random draw then certainly. But you would have a lot easier time picking 100 good wrestlers out of hundred of thousands of kids than i would picking from tens of thousands. even if i could pick 5x as many as you. You have a lot bigger sample size to draw from. Giving you more probability of being able to locate 100 good wrestlers. Suppose we believe that by having more kids from small schools make it further in the state tourney does that mean that these new kids that come out for wrestling are going to be on the same level as those perry practice partners? NO So how will more regional quality kids make the semi state kids better?
  4. You are talking about a team sport though. First off... but besides that point this just shows that INDIVIDUALS from small schools don't have a disadvantage because of work ethic, size of the school or anything of the sort. The TEAM has a disadvantage because they don't have the same probability of having AS MANY wrestlers. This does not limit the INDIVIDUAL from being state placing quality.
  5. Because the probability of a school with 1000+ kids of having good wrestlers is much higher compared to a school that has 500 kids... Without doing much math since the school would be twice as big i would assume the numbers would come out to be about 66.5% prob for larger schools and 33.5% for smaller schools.
  6. If you want to wrestle down a weight class next year... You need to start eating right and increase amount of cardio exercise now. It can be done in a proper fashion if given enough time. The problem comes when its 2 weeks before the start of the season and then people try dropping a large amount of weight in a short amount of time.
  7. I used to attend the open room "way back in the day" , wow now i feel old, and can say it was one of the best rooms throughout the entire summer.
  8. Although i am not a fan of classed wrestling this arguement doesn't hold much weight. The fact is with the system the way it is there are always kids who lose in the ticket round that are good enough to go to state compared to some kids who actually qualify but because of draws they don't make it.
  9. Because this is clearly obvious by his profile...
  10. Lol i have no idea who you are but I would still wait and hear it from your coach rather than someone on Indianamat.com
  11. The problem is there are pros and cons each way. Maybe the ihsaa should hire an outside consulting firm to examine and collect data from other states to truely weigh out the pros and cons and figure out what would be best for the kids wrestling... Not for their pocket books
  12. Well you seem to not be able to understand his point... But I'm off this case... I don't think argueing on this forum is going to change the ihsaa in any way. So no matter what happens I hope it works best for the kids because at the end of the day they are what matters and why we all do this...
  13. His point is just exaggerating yours.. if doubling the kids at state makes more kids want to wrestle then why not have 3 Classes and get even more people? Or 4? Or 5? The fact is the kid who lifts to play football or works during the winter doesn't care if he could make it to state in wrestling or not...
  14. I think he is talking about me. But I agree kids should do whatever sport they like. Which is why the ones who are good enough or devoted enough to concentrate one one sport are not likely to risk injury or loss of practice for their main sport...
  15. It's not participation as a whole... It's participation in the state series... Don't you think more people at a small school would be more encouraged by a buddy who made it to state beating the big schools compared to a kid who beat some kids from only the small schoops... You guys have yet to prove how more kids at state will make more kids who are already doing other sports or things decide that now that it is easier to make it to state they now want to wrestle... 2 bad kids wrestling doesn't make anyone better. If they want to get better they have to challenge themselves and wrestle better kids... Not kids on their level. If I curl a 50 pound dumbbell day after day it would be really hard at first because it's a challenge but 50 days in it would no longer be a chanllenge and I wouldn't get any better
  16. And in our opinion adding more weak/mediocre wrestlers will not make the state better at wrestling...just increase the amount of matches and people attending the state series.
  17. He is just proving a point that more people at state won't make non wrestlers become wrestlers...
  18. 1. Bring a video recorder of some sort and some cameras while you walk in the parade. (Record everything, it's a moment neither you nor the athlete will want to forget for the rest of your lives) 2. Make it a special moment in your highlight films for future wrestlers to be able to see the sights and surroundings of the fieldhouse. 3. Keep your eyes on the prize. It's one thing to make it to state it's another to make it to saturday! Best of luck coach! P.S. Don't worry if you keep doing what you're doing there will be many more trips back to the fieldhouse, and not to watch that silly sport they play with a ball.
  19. Yeah the kids who win state are the best in the state... not the best in the state within 1a schools.... "THE" best... singular... The olympics dont have 3 gold medals for each event broken down the the size of the countries do they?
  20. Would you not agree that a small school size will also limit the amount of practice partners a kid has, the quality of those practice partners or the off season training options.
  21. No joke. If your club is your fundraising then shouldn't you be hosting tourney's anyways? When I used to participate in ISWA we could find a tourney less than 2 hours away almost every single weekend in northern indiana. I think people should do less complaining about it on here and do something about it. Host a tourney and raise some funds for your wrestling program!
  22. Maybe on a night the high school gym is packed for a meet. (Senior Night or something of the like) You could offer free admission to kids in middle school and show them the enviroment that comes with high school wrestling.
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