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And a majority of those football players play basketball, swim, work, or do other school activities.

I'm talking about the numbers. A lot of posts are about having more success means more people want to come out to wrestle. I'm saying that at small schools there's hardly anyone available to come out.

How does increasing quantity improve quality? It's not like small schools have a stud just doing nothing in the winter. Most students are involved in other activities or work.

What small schools have "success" and what is your definition of "success?"

 

So you don't think more kids going to state or semi-state doesn't help a program? Say you start getting 8 kids every year to state and 3 kids to state every year. That won't help your program? On the same note a school without much success starts getting 3 kids to semi-state and a state qualifier every year, rather than one semi-state qualifier. Are you seriously saying that won't help a school's numbers...thus helping wrestling in the whole state?

I personally hate the idea of classing any individual sport. The size of the school, in my opinion, has little to do with results in individual sports. Blue River, one of the smallest schools in the state, had a gymnastics state champion. Most of the individuals that compete at the elite level aren't just working with their school team anyway. They train elsewhere and make sure they are challenged by going to national tournaments, etc. There is no need to change a system that provides such an awesome championship event. I would probably never go to a small class state final, but I'd root like heck for a kid from a smaller school to upset maybe a favorite from a bigger school.

Also, just because a school may have large enrollment doesn't mean it has a large program. Many of the larger schools in the state still have trouble fielding a full 14 man roster.

And of course, you have a wrestler who might be the best in the state, and he has to compete in the smaller class and he will always wonder if he could have been the true champion.

Classing a team sport is great, but not an individual sport. Don't ruin something that works well already.

There are certainly better ways to promote the sport - if that's the idea. Call and complain to local newspapers about coverage of wrestling. Talk to people in your town and encourage them to go to a match and support your local school. Once the sport starts getting deserved publicity, and a fan base, competitors will fall in love with it and want to give it a try.

My two cents worth

The NCAA has separate divisions based on the school, not the sport. You can have a small D1 school. It is also widely known that a D2 champion is far less superior to a D1 champion. Also, athletes usually choose where they want to go. If an athlete is good enough to win in D1 he is not going to choose to go to a D3 school.

I guess I'm looking at this more through the Millers who know they can compete with the big boys and could place or win in an unclassed tournament.

Please make sure you look at the PDF at the beginning of the thread and see how teams in your area might perform under this format.

The way I see it, classed gives kids that would be semi state level guys state placers and champions. A classed system just gives them those honors. And if there's an exceptionally good 1A wrestler, then he won't compete against the very best to win a title. And multiple state titles would ruin the mystique of our awesome state finals.

Sawyer hasn't wrestled any of the top 5 ranked 120s but he's teched or majored 3 state ranked wrestlers. He also has a good win versus Hatch. He's been on a mission this postseason and I would not be surprised to see him get a state title.

Maybe those eyes of yours need checked.....

Either my phones broken and it was randomly not there before or Y2s trolling me

Wheres 138?

STRECK? Not considered a lock then huh!!

It was a rough post with a lot of buttons accidentaly hit

Berne Tri Weekly does a webcast of the Fort Wayne semi state and I think I saw that New Castke will be live streaming from trackwrestling

106- Hunt, Miller, Streeter, Davis

113- Pepple, Glougoski, Mockenstrum, Mosser

120- Miller, Loraine, Langeloh, Cauffman

126- Gunsett, Weimer, Doster, Hiestand

132- Knapp, Maddox, Coy, Egolf

138- Eicher, Moore, Laughlin, Franko

145- McCormick, Vauhn, Bates, Levitz

152- Garman, Sturgill, Mullinix, Perry

160- Gray, Baumgartner, Weimer, Liter

170- Jackson, Luginbill, Baker, Davis

182- Hinkle, Eli, Hiestand, Kohler

195- Dunten, Howard, Davis, Evans

220- Guerra, Ellis, Davis, Hangen

285- Swartz, Cummings, Hiestand, Phillips

The IHSAA has had semi-state pairing up since last night. Go to our brackets section to see them

 

Fort Wayne will be up early in the week. Hopefully I'll get another feature in the Decatur Daily Democrat with what I say.

Jay County

120 Sawyer Miller South Adams

160 Jacob Gray Delta

Blame Hinkel? For a dual meet you yourself said coaches have no say in.Hinkel isnt the coach. Ersland and Goldman could have moved it. Really?Blame Hinkel? Really? Schedule Probably already made up? Really? Have no bone against Ersland. The thread sites a transformation. Just an opinion, but PU messed this one up.

And Ersland not recruiting in state? Just because he doesn't have anyone signed on doesn't mean he's not recruiting them. He said in an interview a few weeks back that he's trying to recruit some awesome in-state talent. And what's wrong with out if state recruiting? He's got the 31 and 24 pound for pound ranked wrestlers in the nation.

Jacob Gray Delta beat Bryce Baumgartner Belmont in UTB

Anthony Mosser AC beat Josh Stephenson Yorktown 9-6 second week in a row he's pulled an upset. Pepple better watch out

Masons pretty tough and I think he might be fighting through it. He's been wrestling with a torn ACL for 3 years so what's a little shoulder injury?

It's a wonder you're not a professional writer for IndianaMat yet. Beautiful preview