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We should start the promotion of Casey Kenny former Jay County wrestler versus Brooks...bring UFC 210 or 211 to Bankers Life. Just won a belt out west, I believe all previous holders of the Tachi Palace Belt has moved on to UFC. http://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/63593-casey-kenny

He wrestled at Delta, coached at Jay County

First I want to say in no way do I want to be an official and greatly appreciate the job they do. However, what is the exact job of the side official? In most all sports today the focus is on getting the call correct, therefore the side official should move to positions to assist with calls if needed. Each year I continue to see coaches who probably have a pretty good grasp of the rules ask for the lead official to review with the side official but rarely if ever is a call overturned. So in my curiosity I approached a former official yesterday and asked the question of why this seems to always happen, his response "the side official doesn't want to show the lead official up" I said shouldn't the focus be on getting the call correct? He said yes and here is how I handled it when I officiated..."If a lead official came to me I would tell him exactly what I saw and if his view was different than mine and he kept the original call that his choice." I am not suggesting we have replay or anything like that just a focus on getting the call correct, if they both see it the same so be it, if not the call gets changed and lets move on. I am sure the lead official is correct 9 out 10 times, but the focus should be getting the 10th time as correct as the first 9. Thoughts? Answers?

This is exactly my thought, but of course without the math part. Or the Saturday with wrestle backs from the quarters you mentioned.

Was using as an example, not necessary an exact number. Just a scenario in my mind.

If it were up to me I would scrap the sectional all together, go immediately to 16 in some case 17 team regionals, with wrestle backs. Use the extra "Saturday" that would be available to push the IHSAA to bring back team state.

106 - Rupp, James, Racster, Johnson 113 - Miller, Mosser, Atkins, Ingram 120 - Liter, Fugiett, Lawson, Perry, 126 - Becker, Sanders, Fiechter, Cline 132 - Mosser, Goodwin, Beeks Ruble 138 - Gutierrez, Macklin, Beeks, Strait 145 - Winner, Bates, Mounsey, Stevens 152 - Leonhard, Thieme, Laughlin, Walden 160 - Hemmelgarn, Busse, Harrels, Hill (Finals Match of the Day) 170 - Baumgartner, Gray, Hemmelgarn, Smith 182 - Friedt, Chapman, Goodson, Mills 195 - Hankenson, Baumgartner, McCune, Ostrowski 220 - Hare, Brunner, Baronick, Hughes 285 - Shaw, Schoenemah, Cueller, Sprankles Bellmont 6 Champions Jay County 4 Bellmont 262 Jay County 230

Noticed that Bellmont has five #1's and Jay County has four #1's...Is Jay getting better to where they are starting to push Bellmont? Or is Bellmont down? What does the future look like in this sectional?

Do you have a form that would show each teams trend? What teams are improving over the period of time you have been doing the genius rankings? Is that possible to put together?

Yea pretty crazy Slivka wrestles with Yorktown through elementary (only a few miles away), then middle school at Shenandoah (where he lives)...ends up at Cathedral.

Should make this a 24 or 32 team tournament. I mean if you have 17...24 makes sense.

Remo Heistand from Yorktown to Carmel

How many of Perry's kids are actually "Perry" kids? Isn't one from Elwood? This inquiring mind is wondering.

I think they are all pretty good with exception to 195. I believe Garringer from Jay County pinned Crabtree at ECIC, can't figure why he is not in top 8 and Crabtree is 5th.

Matt, I understand you and the board have looked at this long and hard, and I being a parent of an elementary aged wrestler appreciate not only your time and efforts but the entire ISWA board, a big thank you for all that you do. I also understand you cannot change the rules at the eleventh hour and was not epecting you to do so. My questions and concerns are a more of a going forward motion. Also, the example I used above was a possible scenerio only to be used as an example. Our club has 29 wrestlers where only 10 are from our school district and unfortunately could only fill 7 of the 17 weight classes. Your point about getting the cards at clubs such as CIA, Red Cobra etc...is an excellent point I had not thought off. I will plan on attending the discussion the night of weigh in at individual state. One thought to put on the agenda is...A wrestler that is a member of an open club must attend school within the district or at a school where the physical address is no more than 30 miles from the address of the club practice room. This alone would prevent an "all star" team from Evansville, Indianapolis, Crown Point, Fort Wayne etc... Again thank you for all the efforts you and the ISWA board have put forth in regards to this event and others.

I agree clubs like CIA, Red Cobra, Humphrey etc...should be excluded from the event. I am thinking of a rural type school. For example lets take a school district such as Southern Wells, now I have no idea if they have an elementary program on not, but to use a "district" as an an example lets use them. Small Rural Community school district. Now let's say Bluffton, Madison Grant, Eastbrook, Mississenwa do not have elementary programs or clubs to promote the sport of wrestling, but have wrestlers who attend the Club at Southern Wells. If this so called Southern Wells Wrestling Club contains a total of 25 kids K through 6 with a toal of 14 of these kids outside the district it would be impossible for this club to participate in this event, even if the 11 kids from Southern Wells were of different weight classes, that leaves 6 to fill, two more than allowed. It is clubs like this that are formed to grow the sport of wrestling within there immediate area, but yet prohibited from particpating in such an exciting event. My proposal would be to allow open community clubs to attend the event with the stipuation that the club that has any wrestler over the bantam age group which does not reside in the school district provide the current year and previous year ISWA Card numbers as a tracking device to ensure the wrestler indeed has participated in the club the current and previous year. I am not sure but I would think the ISWA surely tracks the cards issued to clubs for sign ups and tournaments. And with the ISWA published individual tournmant schedule I would think it would be fairly easy to ensure each wrestler is legal.

This is my first post on this site, but thought I would take the time to weigh in on this subject. My son is a fith grader who has participated with the same kids in his wrestling club since his 2nd grade year. Some of these kids are classmates, some are from other school districts withhin a 30 mile radius. With the rules set as they are, our club is not able to participate in these elementary duals as 50% of the kids in our club are from these school districts that do not even offer elementary wrestling on even a club to do so. I understand that the ISWA is trying model this similar to the Disney Duals, however this is not the Disney Duals. I see statements in this thread and others on this website that we are trying to grow the sport, however not all kids that belong to just ONE club and have for many years not being able to participate in this event, is not growing the sport. Growing the sport is where all elementary aged level wrestlers are allowed to participate if they or their club so choses. We have 30 kids in our club this year, the parents want to wrestle at this event however we have to tell them they are not allowed to do so. It is my opinion the rules should be modified to include all clubs, where the clubs would need to provide evidence that wrestlers above the Bantam age group show membership to the particular club of at least two years. One may ask what type of evidence, I would assume the ISWA tracks the ISWA cards in some manner and could determine what club has issued the cards during club sign ups in the past. I do not belive this would consitute and all-star team if the children have been intact with a club for at least two years. This type of modification is the type of modification that grows the sport. Wrestlers are comptetive, always looking to beat the best, excluding these types of clubs is excluding some of the best and not growing the sport.