Uwwdoc Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 57 minutes ago, kmrabr said: Crazy, I saw the aftermath but didn’t see the actual match, was he legit pinned?? Either way Masoumi looked comfortable beating Taheri 6-2. Nope didn't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkiane Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Masoumi beats Mohebi, Goleij beats Firouzpour and Azarpira beats his guy. Finals are Zare vs Masoumi and Goleij vs Azarpira. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uwwdoc Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, kkiane said: Masoumi beats Mohebi, Goleij beats Firouzpour and Azarpira beats his guy. Finals are Zare vs Masoumi and Goleij vs Azarpira. What are the other finals? I'm going to go with Zare and Azarpira as my picks to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkiane Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 28 minutes ago, Uwwdoc said: What are the other finals? I'm going to go with Zare and Azarpira as my picks to win. 61 - Atri vs Ramezanpour 74 - Emami vs Firouzpour 86 - Yazdani vs Vafaeipour I expect everyone on the left to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkiane Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Atri techs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkiane Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Emami win 6-0. Very respectful wrestler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkiane Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Zare is looking really good. The last person to handle Masoumi like that was Zare last year. Zare wins 8-0. Masoumi hasn’t learnt from his mistake on the end he of the match against Munkhtur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uwwdoc Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, kkiane said: Zare is looking really good. The last person to handle Masoumi like that was Zare last year. Zare wins 8-0. Masoumi hasn’t learnt from his mistake on the end he of the match against Munkhtur. Zare still on another level right now. Felt bad for Azarpira. Thought he was gonna take that win, but got caught in the final seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkiane Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Just now, Uwwdoc said: Zare still on another level right now. Felt bad for Azarpira. Thought he was gonna take that win, but got caught in the final seconds. That Zare performance gives me hope for him against Gable. The problem for Azarpira is that next year he has to worry about Ghasmepour as well. Who will be our representative at 70? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uwwdoc Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 minute ago, kkiane said: That Zare performance gives me hope for him against Gable. The problem for Azarpira is that next year he has to worry about Ghasmepour as well. Who will be our representative at 70? Team imo will likely be Ahmadjavan Atri Rahman Am Yaz Emami Savadkouhi Yazdani Kamran Goleij Zare Tbh that is a solid team. Should be a minimum of 7 medals there at least. The only thing is at 97kg I still reckon Mohammadian would have won Takhti champs if he was allowed to compete, I'm just not sure who would perform better internationally between him, Goleij and Azarpira. Looks like it is gonna be Goleij regardless, if he can perform like he did in Oslo then he should at least get Bronze, and should make a Snyder match competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkiane Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, Uwwdoc said: Team imo will likely be Ahmadjavan Atri Rahman Am Yaz Emami Savadkouhi Yazdani Kamran Goleij Zare Tbh that is a solid team. Should be a minimum of 7 medals there at least. The only thing is at 97kg I still reckon Mohammadian would have won Takhti champs if he was allowed to compete, I'm just not sure who would perform better internationally between him, Goleij and Azarpira. Looks like it is gonna be Goleij regardless, if he can perform like he did in Oslo then he should at least get Bronze, and should make a Snyder match competitive. Looking at those names the weakest medal shots are Ahmadjavan and Amir Yazdani, but I am still hopeful for both of them. I would have normally said Goleij is the best but Azarpira’s performance against Batyrbek really threw a spanner into the works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uwwdoc Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 37 minutes ago, kkiane said: Looking at those names the weakest medal shots are Ahmadjavan and Amir Yazdani, but I am still hopeful for both of them. I would have normally said Goleij is the best but Azarpira’s performance against Batyrbek really threw a spanner into the works for me. I wanted Azarpira to win. I thought some new fresh blood will be best for Serbia and he will learn from his close bout with Snyder. Almost had it to, but gave up that takedown right at the end. With one eye to Paris however, I think it will be Kamran at 97kg. Likely Zare, Kamran, Hassan, at the top 3 weights. 65 Rahman. 57kg could be anyone, but no one is too strong. The most fascinating for me will be who gets 74kg. With a lot of talent from 79 going down and some from 70 going up you will have a real gauntlet-Emami, Savadkouhi, Nokhodi, AM Yazdani, MH Firouzpour. That's gonna be interesting. I imagine it will be between the first 3 I mention, but it will be a bit of a cut for Savadkouhi and Nokhodi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 I just want to jump in and say I appreciate the constant post from the followers of Iranian wrestling. While I do not know much about these wrestlers, outside of what I see at the Worlds and Olympics, I do appreciate reading more about them from the several knowledgeable sources that have migrated here from the former themat.com website. kkiane, Uwwdoc and VoriaGhafouri 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmrabr Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Wanted Azarpira to win too tbh, he wrestled well I thought but just shows how strong Goleij is to finish that single leg when it looked like stuffed. Zare very impressive again, Masoumi showing some inexperience trying to throw double overhooks on the edge. And Emami continues to put in solid performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmrabr Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Uwwdoc said: Looks like it is gonna be Goleij regardless, if he can perform like he did in Oslo then he should at least get Bronze, and should make a Snyder match competitive. Unfortunately could just as likely perform like he did at Asians though… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uwwdoc Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 20 minutes ago, kmrabr said: Unfortunately could just as likely perform like he did at Asians though… Exactly. Which is why I wanted Azarpira. Simply for the fact I thought I reckon he would do better in Serbia. But there isn't much between the 3. I do think Momhammadian would have won gold again if he was allowed to compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uwwdoc Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Overall though should be a very solid team, arguably even stronger than last year with Savadkouhi being in such good form. Should be 7 to 8 medals in that team all being well. I would say the gold contenders are Zare, Kamran, Yazdani, Savadkouhi, Rahman, and even arguably AM Yazdani. Not saying all will get gold of course, and all depends on the day and the draw but they all have a realistic shot at it. Russia will be there but anyone know about their team selection? I haven't heard anything and if they are there surely they will be doing their team selection process any day now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkiane Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Uwwdoc said: Russia will be there but anyone know about their team selection? I haven't heard anything and if they are there surely they will be doing their team selection process any day now. I’m not sure if this is true, but I did hear something along the lines of Russians that wrestle have to denounce the war. After hearing this I basically ruled out any Russians coming back because I feel that’s too big a risk. https://uww.org/article/uww-decision-neutral-athlete-inclusion Does anyone have any information on the conditions of participation? Edited May 26, 2023 by kkiane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uwwdoc Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, kkiane said: I’m not sure if this is true, but I did hear something along the lines of Russians that wrestle have to denounce the war. After hearing this I basically ruled out any Russians coming back because I feel that’s too big a risk. https://uww.org/article/uww-decision-neutral-athlete-inclusion Does anyone have any information on the conditions of participation? You will see 95% of the usual there I am sure. Perhaps a couple missing names in both greco and FS. I expect most to be there. They will compete under the neutral athlete flag. Not RWF or UWW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkiane Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Uwwdoc said: You will see 95% of the usual there I am sure. Perhaps a couple missing names in both greco and FS. I expect most to be there. They will compete under the neutral athlete flag. Not RWF or UWW. Then we could see multiple Russians in each weight class or they would still do trials to select one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uwwdoc Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 16 minutes ago, kkiane said: Then we could see multiple Russians in each weight class or they would still do trials to select one? It will be just like a world team. One in each. I expect to see most of the Dagestanis, Sadulaev, Sidakov, Uguev etc. kkiane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkiane Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, Uwwdoc said: It will be just like a world team. One in each. I expect to see most of the Dagestanis, Sadulaev, Sidakov, Uguev etc. So they won’t count towards team rankings right? They can’t beat Iran and USA in the team rankings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uwwdoc Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, kkiane said: So they won’t count towards team rankings right? They can’t beat Iran and USA in the team rankings? Nope there won't be a team. So team will be between USA and Iran. And both countries have arguably the best teams they have ever had. USA line up likely to be Gilman/Richards Vito/Garrett Yianni/Lee Dake Jb Taylor Zahid/Mike mach Snyder/Cox Gable There are gonna be some huge battles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkiane Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, Uwwdoc said: Nope there won't be a team. So team will be between USA and Iran. And both countries have arguably the best teams they have ever had. USA line up likely to be Gilman/Richards Vito/Garrett Yianni/Lee Dake Jb Taylor Zahid/Mike mach Snyder/Cox Gable There are gonna be some huge battles I’m sneakily worried about Zahid. Correct me if I’m wrong but he teched Kollin Moore and Kollin Moore is beating world medal contenders. And of course I am worried about everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmrabr Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 9 hours ago, Uwwdoc said: I would say the gold contenders are Zare, Kamran, Yazdani, Savadkouhi, Rahman, and even arguably AM Yazdani. Not saying all will get gold of course, and all depends on the day and the draw but they all have a realistic shot at it. I’m throwing Emami in this list too, he had very close matches with Dake and Sidakov. And personally though I’ve seen him get some criticism I do consider AM Yazdani a gold contender. Some of the stuff we’ve seen him do on the mat is genuine top level - just needs a decent draw and to keep his head for two days. Uwwdoc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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