Bruins2013 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 He works hard his time will come soon...he just recorded his 50th 51st and 52nd career wins this weekend just a sophomore...he is scared of no one and will give you 110%..... I have said before he is not quite there yet ,he knows that and he will get there he keeps getting better and building his wrestling iq each week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWwrestling1996 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Exactly I respect you for staying loyal and believing in your wrestlers major. Don't buy into that Bruins2013 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Woenker's improvement has been alot more noticeable than Arney's... Arney is good and we will see Overall I take the SAC over Carroll.. the Sac would have to shift some weights and be coached by the right person but they would win You mean 0-2 at the Whitko Invite? Who has he beaten that is of significance? FWwrestling1996 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWwrestling1996 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Wins overLeo's SSQ Chase Hissong, pinned SAC champion Keaton Braun, pinned his guy in the finals in the Woodlan Invite finals, went undefeated at conference duals' and I'm sure there is more to his already 20+ win season Whitko was his first day at 138 and he lost to a then 19-1 senior and then he was up 7-0 and got caught out of position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Wow he should be ranked in the state with those types of wins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWwrestling1996 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Do you make yourself laugh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWwrestling1996 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Arney is good and it seems like he loses alot of closes matches but he isnt far away from elite. You just don't take Woenker seriously or anyone in the SAC and I think that is a mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruins2013 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Hey guys don't worry either way he will just love the fact you guys have been talking about him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Arney is good and it seems like he loses alot of closes matches but he isnt far away from elite. You just don't take Woenker seriously or anyone in the SAC and I think that is a mistake Again the SAC All-Stars don't defeat the #SuperChargers Show me who wins...we have wrestled Concordia, Snider, Dwenger, and North Side this year so we have pretty good gauge of the SAC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aoberlin Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Well this thread turned fun!!! Coach Nieman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanForLife71 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I gotta say I have respect for any kid, and remember we are talking about kids, that works his tail off to get better at this great sport. I did a little mental tallying (which I promise for me doesnt take long) and Id say it would be a close match between the SAC All Star Team and The Carroll Superchargers. I have it as Carroll 7 matches, the SAC All Stars 6 and 1 toss up. Im just honored as a Carroll parent that we have to take on a All Star Team from the area to be defeated. I think it speaks volumes for what our club, middle school, and most certainly our high school coaches are doing with these young men. I accept and applaud Ursula for sticking with his guys, which is why I will do the same. I agree with all the cool dad stuff, but you left out probably the coolest of them all! HA Looking forward to an awesome sectional and regional! Major Ursula, Bruins2013 and FWwrestling1996 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCardinal141 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 You are irrelevant so no one cares what you think. Ouch, that hurts. I just think your lofty expectations don't line up with reality. There are currently 4 wrestlers from the SAC ranked in the top 4 in Semi-State. There are individual teams that have that many guys ranked in the top 4. You're simply attempting to draw attention to yourself. You are loud and obnoxious, bark much louder than bite. I would argue that your early success has more to do with factors outside of your training (solid high school coach, exposure to the sport at a young age, etc.). If you want to claim a wrestler like Shaun Johnson is a by-product of your club, you are only kidding yourself. I know where Shaun trained when he first got into the sport and it wasn't with you. I know who his high school coach was and that also wasn't you. By the way, what is the name of your club? Where can we sign up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Ursula Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 Well this thread turned fun!!!I love it. At least there is some dialogue about our "sucky" conference. I don't mind the heat or doubt or laughter. Fuel for the cauldron. FWwrestling1996 and FanForLife71 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanForLife71 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Ouch, that hurts. I just think your lofty expectations don't line up with reality. There are currently 4 wrestlers from the SAC ranked in the top 4 in Semi-State. There are individual teams that have that many guys ranked in the top 4. You're simply attempting to draw attention to yourself. You are loud and obnoxious, bark much louder than bite. I would argue that your early success has more to do with factors outside of your training (solid high school coach, exposure to the sport at a young age, etc.). If you want to claim a wrestler like Shaun Johnson is a by-product of your club, you are only kidding yourself. I know where Shaun trained when he first got into the sport and it wasn't with you. I know who his high school coach was and that also wasn't you. By the way, what is the name of your club? Where can we sign up? This got real! Coach Nieman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWwrestling1996 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I see a lot of people speaking on what they don't know. lol i am going to leave this thread alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Ursula Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 Ouch, that hurts. I just think your lofty expectations don't line up with reality. There are currently 4 wrestlers from the SAC ranked in the top 4 in Semi-State. There are individual teams that have that many guys ranked in the top 4. You're simply attempting to draw attention to yourself. You are loud and obnoxious, bark much louder than bite. I would argue that your early success has more to do with factors outside of your training (solid high school coach, exposure to the sport at a young age, etc.). If you want to claim a wrestler like Shaun Johnson is a by-product of your club, you are only kidding yourself. I know where Shaun trained when he first got into the sport and it wasn't with you. I know who his high school coach was and that also wasn't you. By the way, what is the name of your club? Where can we sign up?I didn't take all the credit for Shaun. But since you believe you know something I'll tell you this. I was the Volunteer assistant at Snider when Shaun's dad was a freshman. Do those roots go deep enough for you? I know Gramma. I know lil bro Craig Young jr. (6.1 rebounds a game as a Freshman currently). Shaun had been around wrestling but needed a different approach. We provided that. He qualified for state after wrestling with Heavy Handz WC about 30 matches. So guess I had no influence at all there. I don't take claim for anything beyond opportunity and solid instruction. I'm confident in my teachings because I was taught by the best. Just because a person doesn't fit in your box doesn't mean I don't get results. Huff and Puff all you want you could never blow my house down. I'm loud and effective or you wouldn't be so hurt by my method. I'm me B. You don't like it; get accustomed to it. FWwrestling1996 and Bruins2013 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I see a lot of people speaking on what they don't know. lol i am going to leave this thread alone So what weights do the SAC All-Stars beat Carroll at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWwrestling1996 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I don't want to argue that anymore I guess we will see in the state series. Are there any Woodlan results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I don't want to argue that anymore I guess we will see in the state series. Are there any Woodlan results? You ran your mouth, post your "predictions." I have results to back mine up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruins2013 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I don't want to argue that anymore I guess we will see in the state series. Are there any Woodlan results? Brackets are up under the brackets tab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruins2013 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Y2 what were your picks on the weight classes Carroll wins again ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWwrestling1996 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 106- Streeter NS 113- Davis Wa 120- Byman Ca 126-Stanbridge Ca 132-Raypole Ca 138- Toss Up 145-Capps NS 152- Miller Sni 160-Garman CA 170- Davis Cl 182- Ault No 195-Grossnickle Ca 220-Asher Cl 285- Ault NS (redemption match)IMO Ran my mouth lol... there you have *there you have it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 120, 126, 132, 138, 160, 195, 285 are locks 145, 152, 182, and 220 are all toss-ups Of course we could bump Arney to 145 and leave Hicks at 138 to make both those weights locks and could switch guys between 160-195 to win another weight also. 106- Streeter NS 113- Davis Wa 120- Byman Ca 126-Stanbridge Ca 132-Raypole Ca 138- Toss Up 145-Capps NS 152- Miller Sni 160-Garman CA 170- Davis Cl 182- Ault No 195-Grossnickle Ca 220-Asher Cl 285- Ault NS (redemption match)IMO Ran my mouth lol... there you have *there you have it Haha, so you want to use fictional results. Ault wasn't close to scoring on Lawson. Funny how Ault will get a redemption match, yet Sloffer won't get redemption on Miller who beat him in overtime. Capps vs. Hicks is a tossup too. Keep under estimating Arney, I'm sure he'll prove you wrong in a couple weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWwrestling1996 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 With the normal Carroll lineup which I was referring to all of your "toss ups" go to the SAC. And we both know 285 is not a lock. And it would be a lock for the SAC if Williams was healthy I'll take the senior Capps who honestly had Shipley stuck in the regional finals last year I respect Arney but you need to respect the Aults Major Ursula 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruins2013 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Well in a straight head to head competition you would need 8 winners so if both teams get 7 wins then it's a wash ....7 to 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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