wrestling fanatic Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 if he was so hurt, how could he wrestle that soon after the fall. have you ever had a bad back? no way - i guess the trainer made a bad call too. three issues now!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPL1992 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 what defines an illegal bow an arrow? lmao never have I seen a ref give another kid a point in a match for running an "illegal" cradle :. Should have been a potentially dangerous it sounds like and if luginbill couldnt continue the match malcolm moves on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrUnbiasFWSS Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 If the choice was up to the trainer, I feel like everybody can agree that Luginbill wasn't to blame. If you're going to blame anybody, I would say blame the trainer if you think she doesn't know how to do her job. Maybe blame the ref if you think he made a bad call. Don't blame the kid. He did nothing wrong and everybody is jumping on his case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfay123 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 He was well enough to wrestle two more six minute matches. agreeed if he was able to do that then he should of finished the malcolm match...back injurys are serious they dont just heal in a half hour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Even if the trainer says he can't continue the coaches and/or the kid can decide to not accept a disqualification. See the Heritage Hills coaches and their 220lber from last year at state in the quarter-finals for reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingMan2 Posted February 10, 2013 Author Share Posted February 10, 2013 If he was seriously hurt he wouldn't be walking up and down the stairs all day and smiling. And then come back and wrestle again shortly after. He could have finished the match! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestling fanatic Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 was the trainer a vet - the kid didnt say anything like " i can wrestle"???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrUnbiasFWSS Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Even if the trainer says he can't continue the coaches and/or the kid can decide to not accept a disqualification. See the Heritage Hills coaches and their 220lber from last year at state in the quarter-finals for reference. You are telling me that you would let a kid who used an illegal move (the ref ruled it illegal, a point was awarded) on you, that the kid should be rewarded? You are saying you should be rewarded for hurting somebody outside of the rules. Especially with the match being close, I don't think I could say I would say that I would throw away my dream for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPL1992 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 was the trainer a vet - the kid didnt say anything like " i can wrestle"???? Why say that when you can have a free ride to state? : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestling fanatic Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 now we got four issues - bad call, faking an injury, bad trainer, bad decision by the coach! oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrUnbiasFWSS Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 was the trainer a vet - the kid didnt say anything like " i can wrestle"???? Would it matter? From what I hear, once the trainer shows up, it is his or her call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPL1992 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 You are telling me that you would let a kid who used an illegal move (the ref ruled it illegal, a point was awarded) on you, that the kid should be rewarded? You are saying you should be rewarded for hurting somebody outside of the rules. Especially with the match being close, I don't think I could say I would say that I would throw away my dream for him. Dude why are you so convinced it was close?? it was a minute into the match. I think everyone but you knows who wins that match. it wasnt close. It was a blown call. Malcolm got screwed. Luginbill got a free pass to state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxc Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Even if the trainer says he can't continue the coaches and/or the kid can decide to not accept a disqualification. See the Heritage Hills coaches and their 220lber from last year at state in the quarter-finals for reference. The ac coaches shouldve asked for your opinion... you have all the right answers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestling fanatic Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 The kid should have said he could wrestle. The trainer bases the decision on what the kid says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfay123 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Dude why are you so convinced it was close?? it was a minute into the match. I think everyone but you knows who wins that match. it wasnt close. It was a blown call. Malcolm got screwed. Luginbill got a free pass to state. haha excatly right man it will teach more kids to do that now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 You are telling me that you would let a kid who used an illegal move (the ref ruled it illegal, a point was awarded) on you, that the kid should be rewarded? You are saying you should be rewarded for hurting somebody outside of the rules. Especially with the match being close, I don't think I could say I would say that I would throw away my dream for him. Back in 2004 in the ticket round one of my kids picked up and put a kid down hard to the mat and ref ruled it an illegal slam. Thankfully his coaches told him to get up and he wasn't going to win like that. As a coach I love to win, but I like to win the right way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrUnbiasFWSS Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Dude why are you so convinced it was close?? it was a minute into the match. I think everyone but you knows who wins that match. it wasnt close. It was a blown call. Malcolm got screwed. Luginbill got a free pass to state. Oh, my bad. My memory must be fooling me. What was the score when the match was over? I believe (and I am right) that the score was 2-1. THAT IS A BLOWOUT! THAT MATCH WAS OVER!......................... Everybody but me knows that a 2-1 match in the first period is over. Wow...... I am one stupid old man.... (if you couldn't catch that, sarcasm was used in that post, dude) : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPL1992 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 The kid should have said he could wrestle. The trainer bases the decision on what the kid says. Exactly. My little brother has his shoulder dislocated. the trainer struggles to get it back in and he has to lay down to get it to finally go back in with little time left on the inj. clock. Guess what? He says im good. they stop the inj. time and he wins the match. seems like if the trainer controls the match then he wouldnt have been allowed to finish. : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestling fanatic Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 2 0 until the penalty point. malcolm was hittin a cradle in the first minute of the first period. wanted to set the time frame correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrUnbiasFWSS Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Back in 2004 in the ticket round one of my kids picked up and put a kid down hard to the mat and ref ruled it an illegal slam. Thankfully his coaches told him to get up and he wasn't going to win like that. As a coach I love to win, but I like to win the right way. You are right. I am all for winning the right way, but if the trainer ruled him out, he can't get back up and wrestle. He is done for that match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 The ac coaches shouldve asked for your opinion... you have all the right answers They wouldn't have listened obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrUnbiasFWSS Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 2 0 until the penalty point. malcolm was hittin a cradle in the first minute of the first period. wanted to set the time frame correctly. Cradle ruled a bow and arrow and then the score was 2-1... wanted to set the time frame correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 You are right. I am all for winning the right way, but if the trainer ruled him out, he can't get back up and wrestle. He is done for that match. He can still not accept the disqualification and let the other kid go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPL1992 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Oh, my bad. My memory must be fooling me. What was the score when the match was over? I believe (and I am right) that the score was 2-1. THAT IS A BLOWOUT! THAT MATCH WAS OVER!......................... Everybody but me knows that a 2-1 match in the first period is over. Wow...... I am one stupid old man.... (if you couldn't catch that, sarcasm was used in that post, dude) : Oh ya his one point is the illegal cradle? And it was 2-1 at the end cause it was a one minute match.... not to sure that was sarcasm in ur previous post.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestling fanatic Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Thank you y2. That is exactly what should have happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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