Onthemat Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I got to be honest, I realize a lot of it is just his personality, but jeez. Harmon is very animated, is baited by, and plays to the crowd. I heard Harmon yell at fans last year at team regional. I hear him say things aloud that are intended for the other wrestler and coaches to hear that I feel are very bush league. While I'm on the Harmon subject, how does the South Spencer coaching staff feel about competing with Harmon for coaching time? Harmon hovers the side of the mat and coaches his son. Everyone coaching against his son should see that Harmon is put in the stands. Just be a proud cheering father instead of a desperate looking one. If the South Spencer coaches aren't capable (it appears they are), why not send his son to Castle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Decimus Meridius Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 First off, its a sign that Castle is on top when all the other teams are cheering when they lose, although, for some reason it was only during the 112 match in the finals, i didn't see anything else happen during the other matches. maybe everyone was cheering because it was a good match, or maybe since the guy that left who was not in any way connected with either mater dei or castle or princeton had left and wasn't around. honestly, i thought coach harmon actually was laughing about it all, in a way, i think it proves to him that castle is on top right now, which they are. I would like to think that next week at semi-state we can all cheer for our regional whether its reitz, castle, MD, princeton, etc. I am sure Coach Harmon does laugh about it all...Not so much because it validates anything about his team, but more because it proves how petty and fickle people can be. Why worry at all about the little people? Even if there is an entire gym full of them? I have the qualifiers as follows: Castle 11 Mater Dei 8 Reitz 7 Mt Vernon 5 Memorial 4 Tell City 3 If I missed some - I apologize, can't always read my own handwriting! Bluebolt - I think MD had (9) SSQ. Appell Schroeder Henderson Weinzapel Sims Zenoether Easterling Boots Kercher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBolt Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 First off, its a sign that Castle is on top when all the other teams are cheering when they lose, although, for some reason it was only during the 112 match in the finals, i didn't see anything else happen during the other matches. maybe everyone was cheering because it was a good match, or maybe since the guy that left who was not in any way connected with either mater dei or castle or princeton had left and wasn't around. honestly, i thought coach harmon actually was laughing about it all, in a way, i think it proves to him that castle is on top right now, which they are. I would like to think that next week at semi-state we can all cheer for our regional whether its reitz, castle, MD, princeton, etc. I am sure Coach Harmon does laugh about it all...Not so much because it validates anything about his team, but more because it proves how petty and fickle people can be. Why worry at all about the little people? Even if there is an entire gym full of them? I have the qualifiers as follows: Castle 11 Mater Dei 8 Reitz 7 Mt Vernon 5 Memorial 4 Tell City 3 If I missed some - I apologize, can't always read my own handwriting! Bluebolt - I think MD had (9) SSQ. Appell Schroeder Henderson Weinzapel Sims Zenoether Easterling Boots Kercher Ahhh... I missed Boots... Like I said, Sometimes I can't read my own hand writing! Thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBolt Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I got to be honest, I realize a lot of it is just his personality, but jeez. Harmon is very animated, is baited by, and plays to the crowd. I heard Harmon yell at fans last year at team regional. I hear him say things aloud that are intended for the other wrestler and coaches to hear that I feel are very bush league. While I'm on the Harmon subject, how does the South Spencer coaching staff feel about competing with Harmon for coaching time? Harmon hovers the side of the mat and coaches his son. Everyone coaching against his son should see that Harmon is put in the stands. Just be a proud cheering father instead of a desperate looking one. If the South Spencer coaches aren't capable (it appears they are), why not send his son to Castle? You know I find it humorous that people buy into the whole preception of Coach Harmon. Yes he is one intense individual and demanding beyond all belief at times. But you know, he manages to get the very best out of his wrestlers not only as athletes, but as citizens also. And since your on the subject of his son and all that - which is REALLY none of your business - If the younger Harmon choses to listen to his father over his coaches, so beit. Ever think that his coaches may be OK with the whole arrangement? What I saw yesterday, in the match with a very tough Andy Kast of Tell City, was Zeke Harmon look to his father, and his father tell him "You chose - but be ready to WRESTLE with what you chose". How much more fatherly do you want? He left the decision to his son, who is more than capable of making the decision by the way, and encouraged him. If anything Coach Harmon is guilty of one thing...Being REAL. So hate him if you like. I think the guy actually prefers it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykidgrapples Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Eleanor 160 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUBjj171 Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I got to be honest, I realize a lot of it is just his personality, but jeez. Harmon is very animated, is baited by, and plays to the crowd. I heard Harmon yell at fans last year at team regional. I hear him say things aloud that are intended for the other wrestler and coaches to hear that I feel are very bush league. While I'm on the Harmon subject, how does the South Spencer coaching staff feel about competing with Harmon for coaching time? Harmon hovers the side of the mat and coaches his son. Everyone coaching against his son should see that Harmon is put in the stands. Just be a proud cheering father instead of a desperate looking one. If the South Spencer coaches aren't capable (it appears they are), why not send his son to Castle? You know I find it humorous that people buy into the whole preception of Coach Harmon. Yes he is one intense individual and demanding beyond all belief at times. But you know, he manages to get the very best out of his wrestlers not only as athletes, but as citizens also. And since your on the subject of his son and all that - which is REALLY none of your business - If the younger Harmon choses to listen to his father over his coaches, so beit. Ever think that his coaches may be OK with the whole arrangement? What I saw yesterday, in the match with a very tough Andy Kast of Tell City, was Zeke Harmon look to his father, and his father tell him "You chose - but be ready to WRESTLE with what you chose". How much more fatherly do you want? He left the decision to his son, who is more than capable of making the decision by the way, and encouraged him. If anything Coach Harmon is guilty of one thing...Being REAL. So hate him if you like. I think the guy actually prefers it. Oh Coach Harmon. I loved this guy as a coach and i will testify that he can get the best out of any wrestler who is devoted enough and disciplined. As for Zeke, he chooses to listen to his father because he pushes him harder. I have talked with zeke as he use to stop by the room with his mom. He CHOSE to go to south spencer so he could be with his friends (as they live in south spencer). And i am sure there is a great deal of respect between South Spencer and Castle and i am sure coach harmon is allowed to coach his own son. Its zeke's choice and he obviously made it. I have no doubt that harmon plays the crowd like you said (i am in college and this is my way of finding out) he has always done that. And caslte and mater dei always seem to go at eachother, but the parents need to stay out of it and just let the wrestlers decide it on the mat. ITS THEIR CARRERE AND RIVALRY NOT YOURS. STOP LIVING YOUR LIFE THROUGH YOUR KID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBolt Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Uh oh....be careful talking up that Stein kid! I got my head ripped off for it earlier this year! jk....he is going to be one to watch thoughout the rest of the tournament and over the next two years! I guess you have to be from Mishawaka, Castle, Reitz or MD to get any love here huh? Stein doesn't need anyone on a message board talking him up, the work is done on the mat and hopefully this weekend he proves that! Some of us are more than willing to recognize talnet no matter where it comes from! Stein has the skills to take him where ever he cares to go BUT 152 is a loaded weight class where ANYONE can pull out the win this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleanor Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Eleanor 160 For some odd reason I think I know that guy ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleanor Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Uh oh....be careful talking up that Stein kid! I got my head ripped off for it earlier this year! jk....he is going to be one to watch thoughout the rest of the tournament and over the next two years! I guess you have to be from Mishawaka, Castle, Reitz or MD to get any love here huh? Stein doesn't need anyone on a message board talking him up, the work is done on the mat and hopefully this weekend he proves that! Some of us are more than willing to recognize talnet no matter where it comes from! Stein has the skills to take him where ever he cares to go BUT 152 is a loaded weight class where ANYONE can pull out the win this year! BlueBolt, I agree 100%, I was just referring to hm being ripped for talking up Drake. Drake has been a dedicated wrestler for a long time and has put in a lot of work to get to where he is at. Like I said before being from Princeton and seeing many articles on this kid from his middle school years I know he is the real deal. Hopefully he will have continued success and bring us a state title (1st since 1998)... Good luck to all wrestlers out of the Castle regional as I will be rooting for them all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Stein has to be the #1 ranked 10 year old in the country He looks soooo young but definitely doesn't wrestle like it. I'm very impressed with this young man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twigt Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Eleanor 160 For some odd reason I think I know that guy ;D Eleanor: I've been talking about Stein (and Gris) since they were 6th graders!! They both wrestle way beyond their years. Both my daughters (14 and 13) were talking about Drake's talent in other extra curricular activities that he participates in at PCHS. Being a Princeton grad and Hazletonian: Why does the announcer at Castle refer to Princeton as Princeton High School vs Princeton Community HS...my feelings are hurt. LOL JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Decimus Meridius Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Eleanor 160 For some odd reason I think I know that guy ;D Eleanor: I've been talking about Stein (and Gris) since they were 6th graders!! They both wrestle way beyond their years. Both my daughters (14 and 13) were talking about Drake's talent in other extra curricular activities that he participates in at PCHS. Being a Princeton grad and Hazletonian: Why does the announcer at Castle refer to Princeton as Princeton High School vs Princeton Community HS...my feelings are hurt. LOL JB I was really impressed with Stien, but I think Jon H is right he looks like he still in the 6th grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleanor Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Eleanor 160 For some odd reason I think I know that guy ;D Eleanor: I've been talking about Stein (and Gris) since they were 6th graders!! They both wrestle way beyond their years. Both my daughters (14 and 13) were talking about Drake's talent in other extra curricular activities that he participates in at PCHS. Being a Princeton grad and Hazletonian: Why does the announcer at Castle refer to Princeton as Princeton High School vs Princeton Community HS...my feelings are hurt. LOL JB I was really impressed with Stien, but I think Jon H is right he looks like he still in the 6th grade. I will say that Stein does appear to be very young (Babyface) but this may play to advantage! Looks to be an interesting weekend, I cannot wait to go and watch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleanor Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Eleanor 160 For some odd reason I think I know that guy ;D Eleanor: I've been talking about Stein (and Gris) since they were 6th graders!! They both wrestle way beyond their years. Both my daughters (14 and 13) were talking about Drake's talent in other extra curricular activities that he participates in at PCHS. Being a Princeton grad and Hazletonian: Why does the announcer at Castle refer to Princeton as Princeton High School vs Princeton Community HS...my feelings are hurt. LOL JB I am not sure why he refers to them as Princeton High and not Princeton Community! I am sure Jon Abbey (PCHS Principal) will get it right this weekend at Roberts Stadium. I hope he does anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBolt Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Eleanor 160 For some odd reason I think I know that guy ;D Eleanor: I've been talking about Stein (and Gris) since they were 6th graders!! They both wrestle way beyond their years. Both my daughters (14 and 13) were talking about Drake's talent in other extra curricular activities that he participates in at PCHS. Being a Princeton grad and Hazletonian: Why does the announcer at Castle refer to Princeton as Princeton High School vs Princeton Community HS...my feelings are hurt. LOL JB I am not sure why he refers to them as Princeton High and not Princeton Community! I am sure Jon Abbey (PCHS Principal) will get it right this weekend at Roberts Stadium. I hope he does anyway! You mean it's not Gibson Northern High School? ;-) Princeton and Gibson Southern have consistantly produced GREAT wrestlers that have represented our corner of the state VERY well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleanor Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Eleanor 160 For some odd reason I think I know that guy ;D Eleanor: I've been talking about Stein (and Gris) since they were 6th graders!! They both wrestle way beyond their years. Both my daughters (14 and 13) were talking about Drake's talent in other extra curricular activities that he participates in at PCHS. Being a Princeton grad and Hazletonian: Why does the announcer at Castle refer to Princeton as Princeton High School vs Princeton Community HS...my feelings are hurt. LOL JB I am not sure why he refers to them as Princeton High and not Princeton Community! I am sure Jon Abbey (PCHS Principal) will get it right this weekend at Roberts Stadium. I hope he does anyway! You mean it's not Gibson Northern High School? ;-) Princeton and Gibson Southern have consistantly produced GREAT wrestlers that have represented our corner of the state VERY well. I will say Coach Maglis does an excellent job. This guy coached me in elementary wrestling when he was a junior or senior in high school. I heard him talking about wrestling tonight at halftime of the Tigers BB game. Does an excellent job with the HS program and attends / runs the elementary program that my son is currently active in. Introduced all SS qualifiers tonight before the matches in front of the young boys, hopefully some of them have dreams to be standing there someday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBolt Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 I will say Coach Maglis does an excellent job. This guy coached me in elementary wrestling when he was a junior or senior in high school. I heard him talking about wrestling tonight at halftime of the Tigers BB game. Does an excellent job with the HS program and attends / runs the elementary program that my son is currently active in. Introduced all SS qualifiers tonight before the matches in front of the young boys, hopefully some of them have dreams to be standing there someday! He has done a fine job at Princeton! I am a believer in the kids "Giving Back" to the program by teaching the younger kids. It is a duty to pass on their knowledge and skill in my book. You would not believe how much a wrestler can learn about his own style and techniques by coaching the youth teams. The inspiration of the young ones is huge also! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 The princeton coach may hold the record for the fastest walk to the scorer's table. He wastes no time but it is technically a walk and not a run. I love it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBolt Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 The princeton coach may hold the record for the fastest walk to the scorer's table. He wastes no time but it is technically a walk and not a run. I love it!! He does get himself where he wants to be with a minimum of wasted time and movement doesn't he! He is doing a fine job up there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVwatcher Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 I got to be honest, I realize a lot of it is just his personality, but jeez. Harmon is very animated, is baited by, and plays to the crowd. I heard Harmon yell at fans last year at team regional. I hear him say things aloud that are intended for the other wrestler and coaches to hear that I feel are very bush league. While I'm on the Harmon subject, how does the South Spencer coaching staff feel about competing with Harmon for coaching time? Harmon hovers the side of the mat and coaches his son. Everyone coaching against his son should see that Harmon is put in the stands. Just be a proud cheering father instead of a desperate looking one. If the South Spencer coaches aren't capable (it appears they are), why not send his son to Castle? Onthemat i don't know if you were at Sectionals this year or not but i heared that Harmon step down from his seat in the finals agianst Seitz and Harmon and stood are in the middle and coached his son. I mean i understand being a family guy. But he is the head coach and if i was Seitz i would not be happy with my coach right now. and as you can see Seitz is an amazing wrestler because he had to wrestle against is competion, his competions coaches, and his own coach. > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBolt Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 I got to be honest, I realize a lot of it is just his personality, but jeez. Harmon is very animated, is baited by, and plays to the crowd. I heard Harmon yell at fans last year at team regional. I hear him say things aloud that are intended for the other wrestler and coaches to hear that I feel are very bush league. While I'm on the Harmon subject, how does the South Spencer coaching staff feel about competing with Harmon for coaching time? Harmon hovers the side of the mat and coaches his son. Everyone coaching against his son should see that Harmon is put in the stands. Just be a proud cheering father instead of a desperate looking one. If the South Spencer coaches aren't capable (it appears they are), why not send his son to Castle? Onthemat i don't know if you were at Sectionals this year or not but i heared that Harmon step down from his seat in the finals agianst Seitz and Harmon and stood are in the middle and coached his son. I mean i understand being a family guy. But he is the head coach and if i was Seitz i would not be happy with my coach right now. and as you can see Seitz is an amazing wrestler because he had to wrestle against is competion, his competions coaches, and his own coach. > I think it is safe to say that Andrew understood then and each time they have faced. Zeke is a great kid, from a great family, and have a great coach and dad. Besides...Andrew has some Great Coaches other that Harmon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Decimus Meridius Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 I got to be honest, I realize a lot of it is just his personality, but jeez. Harmon is very animated, is baited by, and plays to the crowd. I heard Harmon yell at fans last year at team regional. I hear him say things aloud that are intended for the other wrestler and coaches to hear that I feel are very bush league. While I'm on the Harmon subject, how does the South Spencer coaching staff feel about competing with Harmon for coaching time? Harmon hovers the side of the mat and coaches his son. Everyone coaching against his son should see that Harmon is put in the stands. Just be a proud cheering father instead of a desperate looking one. If the South Spencer coaches aren't capable (it appears they are), why not send his son to Castle? Onthemat i don't know if you were at Sectionals this year or not but i heared that Harmon step down from his seat in the finals agianst Seitz and Harmon and stood are in the middle and coached his son. I mean i understand being a family guy. But he is the head coach and if i was Seitz i would not be happy with my coach right now. and as you can see Seitz is an amazing wrestler because he had to wrestle against is competion, his competions coaches, and his own coach. > I think it is safe to say that Andrew understood then and each time they have faced. Zeke is a great kid, from a great family, and have a great coach and dad. Besides...Andrew has some Great Coaches other that Harmon... As I'm sure you can go back and look at some of my post I've never been a big Harmon fan, but let's be real here, what would you have the guy do sit there and Coach Seitz and coach against his son. He's doing about the only thing he can, although he could physically get into the stands and away from mat that might be more accepted by all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatChick76 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 We couldn't make regionals this year, but after all I've heard about it, I'm glad I didn't make it. From year to year, whenever an MD kid gets beat the entire gym explodes with cheering...the kids have learned to take it in stride because they know that they're the best & everyone likes to see Goliath fall. The Castle kids should do the same thing this year...shake it off. Saturday is almost here and you can bet you'll see me cheering for all those MD, Reitz, Castle, Mt. Vernon (all So. IN) wrestlers...as well as those around me. Good luck to all the kids at Semi-State...let's leave Regionals behind and look forward... Are you ready to rumble? I know I am! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigginhurts Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 I think the castle wrestlers and coaches took it in stride when the WHOLE gym cheered when Greismer won. I think it was the castle fans that flew off the handle and even then, it was just a few plus the students. In their defense, it was unexpected and they didn't know how to react. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Decimus Meridius Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 We couldn't make regionals this year, but after all I've heard about it, I'm glad I didn't make it. From year to year, whenever an MD kid gets beat the entire gym explodes with cheering...the kids have learned to take it in stride because they know that they're the best & everyone likes to see Goliath fall. The Castle kids should do the same thing this year...shake it off. Saturday is almost here and you can bet you'll see me cheering for all those MD, Reitz, Castle, Mt. Vernon (all So. IN) wrestlers...as well as those around me. Good luck to all the kids at Semi-State...let's leave Regionals behind and look forward... Are you ready to rumble? I know I am! Well said MatChick a Wahoo for you..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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