NoGutsNoGlory Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Just throwin some predictions out there before i see the brackets. I will put out others when the brackets come out. 103- Schroeder(SW) def. Reicker1(CE) 112- Taylor(MA) def. Resch(JC) then Colon(CN) def. Reicker2(CE) 119- Reicker3(CE) def. Albertson(CN) Holley(JC) 3rd 125- Reitman(JC) def. Adams(MA) Carlile(CE) 3rd Smith(BC) 4th (if Reitman goes here, would make a dominant 125) 130- Reitman(JC) def. Richey(BC) (once again IF he is here) Winters(CN) 3rd 135- Richey(BC) def. Marthin(MA) McWorter(CN) 3rd Gast(JC) 4th 140- Armand(JC) def. Milenbaugh(CN) Wojdyla(BC) 3rd Whalen(MA) 4th 145- Waddell(CN def. Chandler(MA) (if he wrestles, wasn't at conference) 3rd Heeb(CE) 4th Wathan(JC) 152- Howard(SC) def. Bryant(CE) 160- Beiswanger(JC) def. Brierly(CE) 171- Watson(CN) def. Biggs(JC) Barger(Sey) 3rd Madison kid 4th 189- Kopitzke(JC) def. Brownfield(CN) Scottsburg kid 3rd 215- Collett(JC) def. Smith(SW) 285- Gill(CN) over Caum(JC) Team: 1.Jennings County 2. Columbus North 3. Madison 4. Columbus East Bolded are my upsets. Overall, i think 112 and 140 will be the most exciting weight classes. The most exciting match IMO will be at 130 if Reitman stays there between him and Quincey Richey. Jennings County is coming off of a strong HHC performance and if they wrestle like they did there i think they can upset Columbus North. It will be decided by the consolation rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenadier2012 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 NoGutsNoGlory, I think we can tell you are from Jennings County more by your predictions than by the map on your profile. Depending on the seeding if Resch and Colon meet up in the semi's or possibly the finals Resch won't touch him. Your prediction seems to bank off of Rieker beating Colon, first of all its a difference of styles and second of all even if you where to look at it that way Colon was beating Rieker 6-2 before Rieker threw him. If Reitman stays at 130 I don't see him beating Richey and didn't Barger just beat Biggs at conference, also I believe Smith will handle Collett if they meet up in the finals. I am not trying to downplay the talent of Jennings County as they do have some really good wrestlers and as I see it two potential state qualifiers. I am just trying to bust the dillusional bias that Jennings County is the best thing since sliced bread. (Excuse the awful cliche'....I couldn't think of anything else) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoGutsNoGlory Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 NoGutsNoGlory, I think we can tell you are from Jennings County more by your predictions than by the map on your profile. Depending on the seeding if Resch and Colon meet up in the semi's or possibly the finals Resch won't touch him. Your prediction seems to bank off of Rieker beating Colon, first of all its a difference of styles and second of all even if you where to look at it that way Colon was beating Rieker 6-2 before Rieker threw him. If Reitman stays at 130 I don't see him beating Richey and didn't Barger just beat Biggs at conference, also I believe Smith will handle Collett if they meet up in the finals. I am not trying to downplay the talent of Jennings County as they do have some really good wrestlers and as I see it two potential state qualifiers. I am just trying to bust the dillusional bias that Jennings County is the best thing since sliced bread. (Excuse the awful cliche'....I couldn't think of anything else) I am soley basing my predictions off of how the guys are wrestling recently other than Biggs. I based Resch more off of how he wrestled Taylor and somewhat of how he controlled the entire match against Reicker. 112 will for sure be the deepest weight class as i can see any of the top 4 placing anywhere 1-4. Reitman can beat Richey if he slows the pace of the match down and doesnt get cradled. I clearly stated that i picked Collett as an upset as i have alot of confidence and am very impressed with the young man. And yes, Barger did beat Biggs but Biggs has also beatin him like 100 times in the past 2 years and he was just done for the day after a good match with Browner until he got caught. It is not delusional bias, its called hope. I in no way insinuated they are the best thing since sliced bread. I just think the team is coming on strong at the end of the year and showed that by my predictions. Someone sounds a little bitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greek_wrestler Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 to nogutsnoglory if you really watched the way Resch wrestled Taylor then you would know that he was coached very well for that one match they wrestled each other like 8 times last year with Taylor winning all of them with so many matches you are bound to have a close one and start to learn you opponent but Joey Resch did a great job of stalling his butt off against Taylor to keep it close and by overtime he was completly spent and had no gas left he wrestled the best match possible to give himself a chance to win and as far as beating reiker of east i saw that coming as well my prediction for the paper thin weight class will be Taylor Colon Resch Reiker with possibly all four moving on to semi state (will take a great match from Reiker vs Miracle though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2016GrecoGold Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I think Milenbaugh will beat Armand this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoGutsNoGlory Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I think Milenbaugh will beat Armand this time. That is very possible. I didnt get to see them wrestle at Scottsburg but i heard it was a great match. He will have to get through Wojdyla first and hes no slouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSanta Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 It'll be a very close match between all 3. But i think Armand can pull it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid51bs Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwillis10 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 To grenadier These are predicitons. And if you really think Resch cant touch colon I BELIEVE you are wrong. Its just my OPINION Resch hasnt figured his style out and is capable of being a VERY good wrestler. Im not by any means sayin he can beat colon (although i think its possible). to Greek Wrestler you said Resch stalled his butt of to keep it close...i didnt see the match but did he get a stalling call? if not he must have been doin somethin. And Resch has definitely not yet wrestled the best match he can possibly wrestle. I have a high opinion of him seein as how i have worked with him a little bit so yes you can say i am biased but I am positive of my statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpdawg Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 bwillis10, How do you thing the seeding will work out for 112 at JC? I think that will be important to the winner of this sectional. I have not had the chance to follow all these wrestlers but I know that a has beat b and b has beat c and maybe not all of them have wrestled each other. That might be a good topic..... Funny momets or comments at seeding meetings..... I bet there would be some good stories there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cewrestlingfan Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 bwillis10, How do you thing the seeding will work out for 112 at JC? I think that will be important to the winner of this sectional. I have not had the chance to follow all these wrestlers but I know that a has beat b and b has beat c and maybe not all of them have wrestled each other. That might be a good topic..... Funny momets or comments at seeding meetings..... I bet there would be some good stories there. Taylor has beaten both Resch and Rieker but not wrestled Colon. Colon has beaten Resch and lost to Rieker but not wrestled Taylor. Resch has lost to Taylor and Colon but beaten Rieker. Rieker has lost to Taylor and Resch and beaten Colon. Between Taylor and Colon I'm not sure of all of the common opponents. Both have beaten Resch and Both have beaten Smith (Jeff) but Smith has also beaten Taylor 2 times. In my opinion it will come down to overall record. In that case I think Colon wil get the #1 seed then Taylor will be #2, Resch #3 and Rieker #4. Of course it is possible it could change again because Resch and Rieker will go at each other again next weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpdawg Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I would think Taylor would be #1 because he beat a wrestler that beat Colon. Oh well, no matter how they shake it out it will be a very competitive weight class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenadier2012 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Bwillis10, I am not saying Resch isn't a good wrestler as he has gained leaps and bounds since last year, but I also BELIEVE he won't come within 4 points when he wrestles Colon. I'm not trying to bash him by any means, he will be a VERY good wrestler in the near future. This is my OPINION and it is not biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwillis10 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 bwillis10, How do you thing the seeding will work out for 112 at JC? I think that will be important to the winner of this sectional. I have not had the chance to follow all these wrestlers but I know that a has beat b and b has beat c and maybe not all of them have wrestled each other. That might be a good topic..... Funny momets or comments at seeding meetings..... I bet there would be some good stories there. Taylor will be 1. After that I think whichever coach argues the longest for their wrestler will get the better seed. It comes down to head to head before overall record then they say common opponents but in this instance it could go anyway. I find it hard to believe Colon wont get the 2 seed tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwillis10 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 bwillis10, How do you thing the seeding will work out for 112 at JC? I think that will be important to the winner of this sectional. I have not had the chance to follow all these wrestlers but I know that a has beat b and b has beat c and maybe not all of them have wrestled each other. That might be a good topic..... Funny momets or comments at seeding meetings..... I bet there would be some good stories there. Taylor has beaten both Resch and Rieker but not wrestled Colon. Colon has beaten Resch and lost to Rieker but not wrestled Taylor. Resch has lost to Taylor and Colon but beaten Rieker. Rieker has lost to Taylor and Resch and beaten Colon. Between Taylor and Colon I'm not sure of all of the common opponents. Both have beaten Resch and Both have beaten Smith (Jeff) but Smith has also beaten Taylor 2 times. In my opinion it will come down to overall record. In that case I think Colon wil get the #1 seed then Taylor will be #2, Resch #3 and Rieker #4. Of course it is possible it could change again because Resch and Rieker will go at each other again next weekend. I agree the match there will decide the seed Reiker or Resch will get. So I will just about bet its Taylor, Colon, Reiker/Resch whoever wins next weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toe shoes Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 one thing that will play a factor in the seeding since Taylor and Colon have not wrestled Colon is the returning runner-up at the same weight and that is one of the things they look at for seeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cewrestlingfan Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 one thing that will play a factor in the seeding since Taylor and Colon have not wrestled Colon is the returning runner-up at the same weight and that is one of the things they look at for seeding. Taylor is a returning sectional champ also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toe shoes Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 he is at 103 not 112. his Sect. Title will not play a factor in seeding. it only matters for the returner at the same weight class. Fran was runner-up behind Richey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cewrestlingfan Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 he is at 103 not 112. his Sect. Title will not play a factor in seeding. it only matters for the returner at the same weight class. Fran was runner-up behind Richey I think it only matters if you are the returning champion in the same weight class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tskin Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Here are the seeding criteria; a. Head to head competition b. Record against common opponents c. a returning champion or runner-up in the same weight class d. best overall record By this I would think it prob would go to Taylor because A. doesn't apply but B. does he has a better record against common opponents. If they had the same record against common opponents then it would then go to C. I would imagine and Colon would get the one seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cewrestlingfan Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Here are the seeding criteria; a. Head to head competition b. Record against common opponents c. a returning champion or runner-up in the same weight class d. best overall record By this I would think it prob would go to Taylor because A. doesn't apply but B. does he has a better record against common opponents. If they had the same record against common opponents then it would then go to C. I would imagine and Colon would get the one seed. Thanks tskin. Taylor has lost to Smith 2 times, so that may be a factor for the #1 seed also. This will be an interesting weight class to seed and to see how it plays out on sectional Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSanta Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 But Taylor has beaten Smith before Also. I think Taylor will take the weight class no matter where he is seeded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STARSMAN Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 My guess is the seeds will go 1. Colon 2. Reiker 3. Taylor 4. Resch I think that Resch, Reiker, amd Taylor will meet up this weekend at Milan unless the teams have changed that go there. If Reiker beats taylor and Resch he will have to be the 1 seed. That is a tall order, but he is up to it. That is the only way i see Colon not getting the one seed. Taylor can beat reiker if he wants the 2, but i dont see it going any higher than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaner2 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Madison won't be at Milan this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the trump Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I was wondering if STARSMAN was going to make any guarantees on this board like he did the Times Mail then proceed to get whalloped by Mitchell?? ?Overconfidence - Before you attempt to beat the odds, be sure you could survive the odds beating you.? Congratulations to the Mitchell squad! Hard work and determination paid off (66-16). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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