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2018 Team State Classification (updated data)

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Team State Classification data have been restructured to include 1) the consolidation of Rockville and Turkey Run into Parke Heritage next season (two 1A schools become one 1A school), and 2) the closing of Indianapolis schools Arlington, Broad Ripple, and Northwest. These adjustments leave us with 301 schools: 100 each in 3A and 2A and 101 in 1A. As was already stated on another thread, the impact of the Parke Heritage consolidation moved Alexandria down to 1A. Considering also for the Indianapolis closings, the new class groupings show Columbia City moved down from 3A to 2A and no additional changes. An excel file of this data is available below.

    TEAM STATE CLASSIFICATION DATA 2018    
         
    3A SCHOOLS (100)    
State Enroll Rank School     Enrollment
1 Carmel High School 5000
2 Ben Davis High 4362
3 North Central (Indpls.) 3772
4 Warren Central High 3736
5 Penn High School 3345
6 Pike High School 3306
7 Fishers High School 3250
8 Lake Central High 3219
9 Hamilton Southeastern HS 3118
10 Avon High School 2891
11 Noblesville High School 2882
12 Crown Point High 2763
13 Franklin Central High 2659
14 Brownsburg High School 2629
15 Portage High School 2520
16 Center Grove High 2500
17 Lawrence North High 2469
18 Perry Meridian High 2351
19 Homestead Senior High 2348
20 Lawrence Central High 2340
21 Carroll (F.W.) High 2280
22 Merrillville High Sch 2214
23 Southport High School 2185
24 Warsaw Community HS 2176
25 Westfield High School 2146
26 F.W. Northrop High 2097
27 Valparaiso High School 2082
28 Chesterton Senior High 2076
29 Jeffersonville High School 2066
30 Lafayette Jefferson High 2031
31 Columbus North High 2017
32 LaPorte High School 1946
34 Castle High School 1934
35 Anderson High School 1933
36 Zionsville Community High 1928
37 Harrison (W.Laf.) High 1905
38 Goshen High School 1866
39 Terre Haute North 1854
40 F.W. Snider High 1850
41 Whiteland Community High 1845
42 New Albany Senior 1843
43 S.B. Adams High 1794
44 Terre Haute South 1778
45 McCutcheon High School 1769
46 Kokomo High School 1769
47 Decatur Central High 1767
48 Michigan City High 1753
49 Floyd Central High 1746
50 Bloomington High School 1742
51 Concord Community High 1716
52 Bloomington High School 1709
53 Elkhart Central High 1673
54 F.W. North Side 1672
55 Elkhart Memorial High 1648
56 Plainfield High School 1636
57 Evans. North High 1614
58 Huntington North High 1575
59 Muncie Central High 1551
60 Bedford-North Lawrence High 1542
61 Columbus East High 1534
62 Franklin Community High 1533
63 Munster High School 1510
64 Greenfield-Central High Sch 1510
65 Martinsville High School 1509
66 Seymour Senior High 1498
67 Mishawaka High School 1470
68 Pendleton Heights High 1421
69 F.W. South Side 1409
70 Mooresville High School 1402
71 Northridge High School 1392
72 Evans. Reitz High 1355
73 Hammond Morton Senior 1348
74 F.W. Wayne High 1340
75 Jennings County High 1332
76 Richmond High School 1331
77 East Central High 1302
78 Hobart High School 1265
79 East Noble High 1262
80 S.B. Riley High 1249
81 Evans. Harrison High 1243
82 East Chicago Central 1236
83 Logansport Comm High 1235
84 Mt. Vernon (Fortville) 1227
85 Greenwood Community High 1200
86 Lowell Senior High 1197
87 Evans. Central High 1185
88 Roncalli High School 1184
89 Indpls. Cathedral HS 1184
90 DeKalb High School 1170
91 Shelbyville Sr High 1156
92 Plymouth High School 1147
93 S.B. Clay High 1143
94 New Palestine High 1119
95 Highland High School 1117
96 Connersville Sr High 1111
97 Jasper High School 1093
98 Kankakee Valley High 1083
99 F.W. Bishop Dwenger 1075
100 Jay County High 1060
202 Evans. Mater Dei 529
         
    2A SCHOOLS (100)    
State Enroll Rank School     Enrollment
101 Columbia City High 1056
102 Marion High School 1053
103 Gary West Side 1046
104 Northview High School 1024
105 New Castle Chrysler 1023
106 New Haven High 996
107 New Prairie High 993
108 Lebanon Senior High 976
109 Madison Consolidated High 966
110 Beech Grove Sr 949
111 Wawasee High School 945
113 S.B. Washington High 906
114 Hammond Gavit Mdl/High 904
115 Boonville High School 903
116 S.B. Saint Joseph's 896
117 NorthWood High School 883
118 Angola High School 876
119 Leo Junior/Senior High 872
120 Delta High School 871
121 South Dearborn High 868
122 Frankfort Senior High 861
123 Western High School 855
124 Mississinewa High School 845
125 Franklin County High 836
127 Owen Valley Community 813
128 Culver Academies   812
129 Edgewood High School 811
130 Hammond High School 810
131 Evans. Bosse High 802
132 Yorktown High School 801
133 Griffith Senior High 800
134 Scottsburg Senior High 794
135 Brebeuf Jesuit Preparatory 794
136 Danville Community High 791
137 F.W. Concordia Lutheran 781
138 Twin Lakes Senior 773
139 Norwell High School 769
140 Hammond Clark Md/HS 760
141 Guerin Catholic HS 758
142 Greensburg Community High 750
144 Rushville Consolidated High 742
146 West Lafayette Jr/Sr 734
147 Batesville High School 733
148 Hamilton Heights High 728
149 West Noble High 723
150 Corydon Central High 716
151 Vincennes Lincoln High 716
152 Charlestown Senior High 707
153 Crawfordsville Sr High 702
154 Indpls. Bishop Chatard 700
156 Indpls. Emmerich Manual 696
157 Bellmont Senior High 691
158 Evans. Reitz Memorial 690
159 North Harrison   689
160 Hanover Central High 680
161 Maconaquah High School 666
162 Calumet High School 664
163 Peru High School 659
164 Mt. Vernon High 658
165 Brown County High 657
166 Gibson Southern High 654
168 Indian Creek Sr 631
169 Tri-West Senior High 624
170 North Montgomery High 620
171 Lawrenceburg High School 619
172 Heritage Hills High 619
173 Princeton Comm High 618
174 F.W. Bishop Luers 617
175 Mishawaka Marian HS 610
176 Jimtown High School 605
177 Heritage Jr/Sr High 596
178 Tippecanoe Valley High 595
179 Sullivan High School 591
180 Garrett High School 590
181 Pike Central High 588
182 Benton Central Jr-Sr 585
183 Knox Community High 584
184 Glenn High School 580
185 West Vigo High 577
187 Lakeland High School 577
188 Salem High School 573
189 Fairfield Jr-Sr High 565
190 Indpls. Cardinal Ritter 563
191 Northwestern Sr High 562
193 Blackford High School 558
194 Greencastle Senior High 556
195 Wheeler High School 553
196 Southmont Sr High 550
197 South Vermillion High 546
198 Woodlan Jr/Sr High 534
199 Rensselaer Central High 531
200 Southridge High School 531
201 Western Boone Jr-Sr 529
204 Monrovia High School 527
205 Eastbrook High School 525
206 Rochester Community High 524
207 Tipton High School 524
208 Speedway Senior High 523
209 Oak Hill High 511
210 Manchester Jr-Sr High 511
         
    1A SCHOOLS (101)    
State Enroll Rank School     Enrollment
211 Alexandria-Monroe High School 506
212 Boone Grove High 499
213 North Posey Sr 498
214 Bremen Senior High 497
215 Andrean High School 492
216 Eastern (Greentown) Jr 491
217 Mitchell High School 491
218 Whitko High School 486
219 Frankton Jr-Sr High 480
220 Eastern (Pekin) High 473
221 Lapel Sr High 470
222 Paoli Jr & 468
223 Triton Central High 468
224 Cass Jr-Sr High 466
226 Centerville Sr High 463
229 Crawford County Jr-Sr 457
230 Cascade Senior High 457
231 North Putnam Sr 456
232 Indpls. Scecina Memorial 449
233 Elwood Community High 447
235 Winchester Community High 446
236 Union County High 444
237 Bluffton High School 443
238 Shenandoah High School 442
239 North Newton Jr-Sr 440
240 River Forest Jr-Sr 439
241 Providence HS   437
242 Whiting High School 434
243 Delphi Community High 430
244 Wabash High School 427
245 Eastern Hancock High 425
246 Tell City Jr-Sr 421
247 Northeastern High School 419
248 Westview Jr-Sr High 416
249 Prairie Heights Sr 415
250 Taylor High School 413
251 Milan High School 411
252 South Spencer High 407
255 Switzerland County   404
257 Madison-Grant   401
257 North Knox High 398
258 Forest Park Jr-Sr 397
259 Wapahani High School 396
261 Central Noble High 393
- Parke Heritage   383
262 Cloverdale High School 382
263 Lake Station Edison 381
264 Knightstown High School 381
266 Winamac Community High 377
268 Seeger Memorial Jr-Sr 375
269 Adams Central High 375
270 Eastside Junior-Senior High 372
272 Monroe Central Jr-Sr 370
273 Hebron High School 370
274 South Adams High 369
276 North Judson   368
277 Churubusco Jr-Sr High 367
280 LaVille Jr-Sr High 363
281 South Putnam High 363
284 Southwestern (Hanover) Middle/Sr 359
287 Carroll (Flora) Jr-Sr 353
288 Fountain Central High 350
291 Hagerstown Jr-Sr High 341
293 Cambridge City Lincoln 331
294 Clinton Prairie Jr-Sr 330
296 Sheridan High School 329
297 North Miami Middle/High 320
298 Rossville Senior High 313
300 Covington Community High 309
301 Tecumseh Jr-Sr High 309
304 Northfield Jr-Sr High 304
305 Fremont High School 303
308 Southwood Jr-Sr High 295
309 Lafayette Central Catholic 291
312 Tri Junior-Senior High 285
314 West Central Senior 280
315 Union City Community 280
316 Daleville Jr/Sr High 279
319 Wood Memorial High 277
321 Wes-Del Middle/Senior High 275
322 Pioneer Jr-Sr High 275
323 Clinton Central Junior-Senior 274
326 Tri Central Middle-High 271
334 Southern Wells Jr-Sr 266
335 North White Jr/Sr 265
338 Triton Jr-Sr High 261
341 West Washington   257
342 Providence Cristo Rey   255
343 Indpls. Lutheran High 251
347 North Vermillion High 245
352 Cowan High School 238
353 Tri-County Middle-Senior High 234
358 Caston Jr-Sr High 228
361 New Washington Middle/High 225
363 Attica High School 223
364 South Newton Senior 220
367 Oldenburg Academy   210
369 Faith Christian School 203
370 Frontier Jr-Sr High 202
380 Randolph Southern Jr-Sr 172
392 Indiana School Deaf 115
         
         
NOT ENOUGH WRESTLERS:    
33 Indpls. Arsenal Technical 1940
145 Washington High School 742
203 Hammond Bishop Noll 528
231 Indpls. washington   457
344 Culver Community High 249
373 Blue River Valley   186
         
SCHOOLS CLOSING:      
155 Indpls. Northwest   696
168 Indpls. Broad Ripple 635
271 Indpls. Arlington Community 371
         

2018 wrestling team state classification data.xlsx

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Is this final?

Is the assumption being made Tech will not add wrestlers?

Why didn't three of the five wrestlers not wrestle at Sectional?

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27 minutes ago, WadeDuPont said:

Is this final?

Is the assumption being made Tech will not add wrestlers?

Why didn't three of the five wrestlers not wrestle at Sectional?

Yes, this is final.

Only two scenarios were given serious thought: leave out the three schools that are closing and be done with it OR leave out the three and bring Tech AND Washington back in since both might be assumed to have more than 3 wrestlers from their teams next year that have wrestled in the state series this year.

In either case, the impact on other teams in the state would have been exactly the same because Tech would have been 3A and Washington would have been put in 2A with an assumed increased enrollment--leaving us with 101 schools in each class and changing nothing for where teams are right now.

In the end, though, my understanding is that no event organizer felt comfortable with making assumptions about where kids would end up. We talked with IPS people and found out that a big chunk of the kids from the three closing schools will actually end up at county schools and magnet schools that aren't IPS at all. There just was no way to be certain of the passing off of any given number of wrestlers to any particular team next year, so the decision was made to use only the facts we know in compiling this final list. The facts we know are that the three schools won't exist next year and that Tech and Washington only wrestled two kids each at sectional. 

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Thanks Maligned

I believe in last week's post someone mentioned that the goal was for the IHSAA to eventually take this over someday.

However, with the current system we are using which I think is decent, it makes no sense to have the cut off at three, four or five to capture the "inclusive" mandate that is thought to as needed to appease the IHSAA as I do not believe the IHSAA will take over a scoring system to determine state dual finalist. If the wrestling community is serious in that end goal a better system will need to be developed that will need to include all schools with wrestling programs.

Now if the end goal is to keep the state dual tournament under the IHSWCA then I would think the cut off would need to be the number of wrestlers needed to at the very least tie a dual meet, which I believe would be 7. With this scoring system that make more sense than anything.

Lastly, I still don't know why we have to follow the two year reset school enrollments when we have the data and technology to do this annually, again if this to align with the IHSAA the wrestling community is short sighted to pick and chose how we want to align with the IHSAA. We surely can't think we can say look we align ourselves by re classing every two years....but we have this really complex scoring system. Their answer would be a quick no.

Again, I don't think the current system under the IHSWCA is bad at all however, complacency in the thinking all is ok and not making annual adjustments to enhance the system is not a good thing.

My suggestions would be:

4 Classes - The disparity between top and bottom of 3A is just too large.

4A - Top 32 teams (8 qualifiers)

Nest three classes divided evenly, 12 qualifiers each.

Re-class annually, as I mentioned above the data and technology is there and there is no good reason not to do it. This should happen whether there are three or four classes.

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I believe that three classes is the correct number. It follows the IHSAA guidelines for that. Actually, we are much closer to having two classes than having four if you look at IHSAA standards. 

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Decbell....I am saying the information is available. I cannot imagine each school not knowing their enrollment annually.

Y2....I agree, what is that number.  In my mind, I am not sure why the cut off would not be seven wrestlers, which is what is needed to at least tie the match.

I think we have to quit comparing this tournament to the IHSAA, as I said earlier if we think they will take over a formula driven invite tournament we are mistaken. Until a tournament is developed that may be accepted by the IHSAA this format needs to be reviewed annually on how we can make this better. Standing pat leads to complacency which leads errors which leads to failure. Ways to improve should be discussed annually and changes that can be made to improve the tournament should be made annually.

Do people outside the IHWCA even know how the formula works? If I show up Sunday in New Castle, end up sitting by a father from let's say Cambridge City Lincoln, we have a wrestling discussion and he is feeling good about the direction of their program and I say to him do you think within the next few years when your son is in high school that your team has a chance to score enough points to qualify for team state at least once?

My bet is he gives me a blank look and has no idea what I am talking about.

Shouldn't the new fan, the new or novice parent have an understanding of just how his team can qualify?

 

 

 

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Decbell1, numbers for school enrollment can be found on the IDOE website.  If someone would like I can create the excel sheet and post current enrollments.  

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The numbers currently being used by the IHSWCA are the numbers from the 16-17 school year.   Enrollment numbers are completed monthly and are reported to the corporations and IDOE.  Current enrollment numbers can be found under school data.  

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