TheAncientElder

Mike Mossbrucker of Bloomington North. 155 lbs in 1976. 22-6 = .785 The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

Brey, More than one wrestler has lost a State championship based on a referee's decision. I can think of one championship match where both wrestlers lost a championship based on a referee's decision. And just for the record it was a GOOD decision. TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

Good article on Mike Mossbrucker in the Winter 2008 Mooresville magazine. Mike is the AD for Mooresville HS. He was the 155 lbs State Champ from Bloomington North in '76. But that gray beard has got to go! TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

Ask Merrillville. They managed to do it at their own Semi-State last year. TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

OK, I will give you two easy ones to research: Two Indiana wrestlers with the same first/Last Names that made it to the state finals: 1. "Steel Drivin' man"? 2. Two Ind. State Champs with same name as two time Olympic Champ/Six time World Champ? TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

NCGRAD00, Just based on the database from the state finals, I would say yes. There are so many last name matches and a few last name/first name matches that the odds are in your favor of a name match at all levels. TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

I am about to go negative on my cool point here but what the hell. For those of you who may remember, somebody in the Reece camp opted to bump down from 130 to 125 at sectional time in 2004. Robbing the wrestling community of one hell of a match. It would have been Angel vs Reece for 130. Angel majored Reece 13-5 at the state in 2002. TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

renegade: Four time state champion Estell Ritter of Bloomington was a freshman state champion at 175 lbs (the heaviest weight class at the time) in 1924. TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

Warrendad, I stand corrected. I am currently reformating the database for a new book and I have not got that area proofed. TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

midget5589, Odam had 13 losses last year and still placed 6th. Tournament time is a brand new season. You should learn from your losses. I think he did last year. TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

Give me a place and a time please? TAE

Tony, You are pure class! TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

Hunter, PM me with your mailing address and I will send you a book. 145 1 12 Don Mappes Indy Roncalli 177 Q 12 Tim Dant Indy Roncalli 112 2 John Venezia Indy Roncalli 185 Q 11 Duane Lutgring Indy Roncalli 185 1 12 Duane Lutgring Indy Roncalli 132 Q7 Eric Young Indy Roncalli 112 Q8 10 David Marshall Indy Roncalli 126 Q6 Ron Marshall Indy Roncalli 145 Q6 Dean Schmaltz Indy Roncalli 98 Q7 9 Mike Bowling Indy Roncalli 119 Q7 11 David Marshall Indy Roncalli 138 Q6 12 Joe Bowling Indy Roncalli 167 Q6 12 Dave Jahnke Indy Roncalli Hwt Q5 11 Ralph Smith Indy Roncalli 98 Q8 10 Mike Bowling Indy Roncalli 126 Q7 12 David Marshall Indy Roncalli 145 Q2 11 Bill Mappes Indy Roncalli 155 Q2 12 John Jacob Indy Roncalli Hwt Q10 12 Ralph Smith Indy Roncalli 138 Q1 12 Pat Bender Indy Roncalli 155 Q2 12 Bill Mappes Indy Roncalli 167 1 12 Chris Maxwell Indy Roncalli 177 Q10 12 Doug Lutgring Indy Roncalli 119 3 12 Mike Bowling Indy Roncalli Hwt Q6 12 Steve Clements Indy Roncalli 126 Q6 12 John Black Indy Roncalli Hwt Q5 12 Anthony Ferguson Indy Roncalli 103 3 11 Matt Hickey Indy Roncalli 145 Q1 12 Judd Lawrie Indy Roncalli 103 2 12 Matt Hickey Indy Roncalli 152 Q6 12 Steve Sandefur Indy Roncalli 112 Q 11 Jeremy Schoettle Indy Roncalli 119 Q 12 Chad Schoettle Indy Roncalli 103 8 10 Ryan Schoettle Indy Roncalli 106 Q 11 Ryan Schoettle Indy Roncalli 142 Q 12 John Andrews Indy Roncalli 103 2 12 Ryan Schoettle Indy Roncalli 135 Q 10 Mark Koers Indy Roncalli 140 2 12 David Himes Indy Roncalli 145 6 12 Joey Dant Indy Roncalli 160 Q 12 Mike O'Mara Indy Roncalli 130 4 11 Kevin Huser Indy Roncalli 135 3 11 Mark Koers Indy Roncalli 152 Q 12 Mike Ardizzone Indy Roncalli 160 Q 11 Andrew Patton Indy Roncalli 112 Q 11 Wiley Craft Indy Roncalli 125 Q 10 Jimmy Huser Indy Roncalli 135 Q 9 Nick Himes Indy Roncalli 140 3 12 Mark Koers Indy Roncalli 160 4 12 Andrew Patton Indy Roncalli 119 2 12 Wiley Craft Indy Roncalli 135 4 11 Jimmy Huser Indy Roncalli 160 Q 12 Michael Williams Indy Roncalli 215 6 12 Joel Lanie Indy Roncalli 125 6 11 Keith Huser Indy Roncalli 145 4 12 Jimmy Huser Indy Roncalli 152 4 11 Nick Himes Indy Roncalli 275 Q 12 Robert Woelfel Indy Roncalli 135 4 12 Ryan Ahaus Indy Roncalli 145 8 12 Mike Perry Indy Roncalli 152 2 12 Nick Himes Indy Roncalli 135 8 11 Mitch Allen Indy Roncalli 215 7 12 Nick Clifton Indy Roncalli 103 5 9 Josh Kiefer Indy Roncalli 112 7 9 Justin Kiefer Indy Roncalli 171 3 12 Jake Blackwell Indy Roncalli TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

Damn! This recruiting is FUN!!! Or you could consider ?The Cradle Of Indiana Wrestling?: Bloomington South High School 24 Team State Championships 122 Individual State Champions 38 - Most Individual Champions under one coach 7 ? Most Individual State Champions in one year TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

This book is awsome! Just received my copy and I echo MatChick76. A lot of detail and a lot of effort. Keep up the good work. I am eagerly awaiting my copy of the MD book? TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

fire77, This is a Team tournament, not a individual tournament! TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

Has never happened. TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

No, Bedoy beat himself out of a state title with a head butt against Cooper in 2002. The final score was 2-1. The penalty point cost him a overtime and a shot at the title. TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

Worth the price! I have several from previous years and I would recommend it to any wrestling fan. Another one you might look up is the Bloomington South Annual publication. And a trip to their Legends Night is a stroll down memory lane for the fanatics. TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

And I thought I was a cranky Old Fart. I can't hold a candle to this guy. TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

No. I do no show him as a former wrestler for Martinsville. TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

Randolph would have destroyed Cameron. Wtih the new TIME OUT rules Cameron would have had to punch himself in the nose several times to get additional recovery time. My son wrestled both and Randolph was head and sholders the best. TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

Poster child for the 215 lbs weight class. The 215 weight pound class was not used until 1995. The jump was from 189 to Hwt. 1991 189 Q 09 Damon Hummel Rochester 26-2. State qualifier. Lost to Jason Tone of Ft. Wyne Dwenger by fall 2:46. 1992 189 2 10 Damon Hummel Rochester 36-2. Placed 2nd. Lost to state champ Derrick Robinson of Lawrence North 5-4. 1993 Hwt 2 11 Damon Hummel Rochester 38-1. placed 2nd. Lost to state champ Andy Schneider of Mount Vernon 11-7. 1994 Hwt 3 12 Damon Hummel Rochester 37-1. Placed 3rd. Lost to state champ Andy Schneider of Mount Venon 8-4. TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

AJ, The answer is NO. There are no 4-time or 3-time runner-ups that have not won the state. There are more than a few 2-timers. But just for discussion purposes consider the following: The three thirds and never a title: Mike Runyon- Bloomington South- 3rd at 119, 130, and 135 in 87, 89, and 90. The four fourths and never a title: Nick Koons- Bellmont- 4th at 112, 119, and 130 in 98, 99, and 01. Jay Mack- Merrillville- 4th at 98, 112, and 126 in 83, 84,and 85. Robert Patty- Bloomington- 4th at heavyweight in 37, 38, and 39. Sidney Hill- Terre Haute Wiley- 4th at 100 (twice) and 115 in 32, 33, and 34 TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net

I refuse to vote. It sounds fixed. TheAncientElder (TAE) The Imperial Potentate and Grand Poobah of Classless wrestling in Indiana. I wear my Fez with pride. www.theancientelder.net