fearless fly

he is real deal it seems

after 2 rounds Rypel is standing out head and shoulders above the rest imo.....time will tell... whoops...thought he was a senior.... nevermind

just now subscribed and looks to be working great....switching back and forth from mats to check and all is good. alot of wrestlers on mats taking it easy... : )

i'll be springing for trackcast and will post here if it works

TBW had goog feed at FW...not so sure about NC...http://indianamat.com/index.php/topic/47574-new-castle-webcast/ maybe janders2 can provide an answer

there seemed to be a problem with trackcast last week...like no feed !

wouldnt one of the "alternative" bars be a more apropiate place to meet ? ; )

yes, doubling the amount of wrestlers at state series would/should increase exposure but wouldn't there be a loss of exposure from having less of a series(no regionals, semi state, etc.) ?

Who you thinking might be the first Mr. Gorilla at this point ? I like Corey Hinkle

im thinking this topic shouldve been a reply in the state predictions thread... )

i would expect all the small schools would be successsful wrestling with themselves...

are there any stats of small school wrestlers in their youth, that have transferred to a larger school for the better program to better themselves(more than likely the parents) ?

Come to the darkside Y2C3PO

hold on.....are we talking sq. ft or cu. ft ? and wouldn't you want to know how many coaches are in the room so you can deduct that space from wrestling space ?

totally agree with both of you, we need someone to figure real scores but not me

you feeling ok Galagore ? : )

I want to add that the small schools are not exclusive....there are alot of big schools there aren't very successful either. Its mainly a select few that are successful...do what they are doing for it seems they have no problem in a classless system.

don't know, show me it does! We have classwrestling now and doesn't seem broken to me and I think it should stay classless so prove to me that classing it will.

I have seen no proof that classing wrestling will improve participation. Someone show me it does without question! Coach Brobst mentioned this stigma among his kids that if you go out for wrestling then you like men (see his point no. 3). If this is true then do we need to disprove this stigma to get more participation ? Coach Brobst quote: I noticed this as well. Last year, when I coached in IPS, the IPSAC tournament had 19 first round matches, whereas there were only 7 this year when I went to watch my old wrestlers compete last Friday (It's an 8-man bracket with 9 teams). The numbers across the conference were way down though. Tech still fielded a full team, but nobody else had more than 8 registered wrestlers and only 182, 220, and 285 had more than 5 wrestlers. That's probably why they feel there should be 14 teams in this sectional, because there will only be around the same number of wrestlers as an 8-10 team field, maybe even less. I also noticed numbers at the private city schools are down, Ritter, Scecina, and Chatard (not in this sectional, but still relevant) all have seen full teams from just a couple seasons ago turn into much smaller rosters. Ritter went from having just two forfeits two years ago to 7 this year and Scecina went from 3 to 8 in that two year time period. There's definitely a dip in the participation in the city, across the board. The question is: Why won't more of these kids come out and wrestle. The athletes are there in the schools, I just wonder why they won't wrestle. I believe the problem is 3-fold (probably many more issues, but I want to keep this concise): 1. There is a large lack of youth exposure to wrestling in the city. Other than CYO (of which most of the best wrestlers end up at Cathedral), these kids aren't being exposed to our sport at an early age and believe, even when they are only 5'3" that they will go pro in the NBA because of their love of basketball. This, combined with the lack of exposure for the student body due to the fact that hardly any of the matches are at home for any of the teams (in my case, we literally didn't have mats due to the take-over process at Howe) make it a hard sell. 2. There's difficulty in finding coaches. Not necessarily Head Coaches, I worked as a Head Coach there for 2 years and have nothing but great things to say about my colleagues in the city. They know their stuff, but now that I work at a school outside of town with a staff of 10 coaches, I see that me and my one paid assistant who showed up every other day and my 2 volunteer coaches who could only make it a few times all season were vastly behind in the amount of knowledge we could give to our wrestlers in a 2.5 hour practice. There was no money in our budget to hire anyone else and despite posting on this site and calling every buddy I have within an hour's drive, I could get no takers to come and help. 3. There seems to be a social stigma among the students I worked with at least that if you wrestled, you liked men. Even more so than with the kids outside the city. Many great athletes at Howe that helped their football team find success wouldn't come near the wrestling room because they were afraid of what their buddies would say about them. I do think that there are many other reasons, but these stuck out to me.

imagine how hard they would have to work in a single class system in their state ; )

once again, I did not say they didn't work hard...they don't have to work as hard to get a title. It's human nature to work as hard as your competition level

I don't think they don't work hard, they don't have to work as hard since the top wrestlers are all spread out. I would bet that some(if not most) of these "champions" aren't even top 30 in their overall weight class.

and what about the B team wrestlers at some of the successful programs(big and small) that are really good but are overshadowed by their top ranked teammate ? I propose a 2 class 5 championship series to make it fair and gets all the good wrestlers noticed. 3 champions for 2A and 1 for 1A (based on school population) and 1 for JV that are better than alot of varsity from other programs....should get about everyone since exposure seems to be the problem...

looks to be about what we should expect this does work, Y2 is proof of that....the problem is getting these coaches to stay at these programs...Y2 is also proof of that

I've mentioned this before and think its a great way to get exposure... our school and another school had 2 days in the season where we would have a meet at 1:00 pm in front of the student body at each school. It was just 2 hrs that each school sacrificed to help expose it. I was a fun environment and we always had a few students come out for team because of it. Keep in mind that this was eons ago so dont know if its even possible today.