mrraper

Northern Indiana Conference was cancelled today.

With the girls having a semi state this year, do they automatically qualify for the Frosh Soph state tournament if they made semi state? I know last year the only automatic qualifiers were state placers and everyone else had to qualify at one of the regionals.

My understanding is that it’s likely to be more of an issue heading home than it will be in the morning, and that the rain/snow line was supposed to fall somewhere around Indianapolis. Of course that can change being 72 hours out.

32 minutes ago, navy80 said:

Any chance we will get Indianamat brackets with rankings etc on them? @Y2CJ41

That sounds like a fantastic idea.

As a parent of a 155 I’m glad my kid wasn’t in the Rochester semi. That was a murderer’s row of talent.

1 hour ago, busstogate said:

I felt the same about popcorn when I was coaching.  If you can, try to get over to Northeast Indiana for an event and opt for pork burgers.  You will find heaven in every bite, Courtesy of  https://www.facebook.com/mishlersmeats/

I have friends in LaGrange and Noble Counties that swear by Mishler’s pork burgers. I haven’t had the chance to try one myself.

What I'm hearing is that if anyone in charge of bracketing semi-state is reading this - do us a favor and throw a little wrestle-back in there. Nobody's gonna be mad.

7 minutes ago, julio said:

I brought this matter up at our seed meeting for Regionals.  If the coaches association, women's or men's, is running this tournament then run it the way we want it ran.  The IHSAA has not sanctioned it yet, so why let them tell us how to run the tournament.

What was the reaction? Is the prevailing thought that we have to conform to current IHSAA standards for them to consider sanctioning?

10 minutes ago, gogoplata89 said:

This could've been our opportunity to show that wrestle backs could work at this level. 

Agreed. Girls wrestling is already treated differently than boys - minimal duals and a much shorter season - so it's not like they have to be treated exactly the same when it comes to tournament time. If anything, the boys have a much better opportunity to differentiate themselves based on their work over the season at regular duals, super duals and invitationals. Girls have a handful of tournaments that they can go to, depending on how far the team wants to or is able to travel, and as a result there are some girls in the tournament that have less than 10 actual matches under their belt. It's hard to say how they should be seeded correctly, so giving them more of a chance to wrestle makes sense. In this format, you lose one match and your semi-state is done. I don't like it.

18 minutes ago, Y2CJ41 said:

I'm not really the biggest fan of adding wrestlers to the bracket like this.

 

1. It creates confusion
2. Since there are no wrestle-backs, the 5th or 6th placers might actually get a better draw than the 3rd or 4th place finishers and advance.

No disagreement here. Frankly, I wish there were wrestle-backs. I think that helps ensure that the most deserving get spots not just based on their draws.

10 hours ago, bomber_bob said:

I'm confused how the placement seeded the brackets. 

 

At Penn Semi-State 115, our girl (Kaylee Cates), who placed 5th at the Regional was seeded as a 4 seed. After the brackets were redrawn, she is now seeded as a 2 seed?

The Mishawaka regional only had one 115 competitor so at the very least the 2-4 slots from that regional would have had to be filled. Not involved with the creation of the brackets but that could be why.

On 12/31/2023 at 5:37 PM, McWrastlePants said:

You are truly the Dave Portnoy of Hotdogs. 

Not unless he only took one bite. Everyone knows the rules.

28 minutes ago, Paycheck141 said:

They can't redraw once they've been released, can they?

May not be redraws, might be adjustments or adding in girls to fill out a full 16. Personally I’m most concerned with what they look like Friday morning so anything before that is gravy.

1 hour ago, Matt Zickafoose said:

Looking at the 155 bracket, shouldn’t 1s and 2s from the same regional be on opposite sides of the bracket? So they wouldn’t meet till the finals. 

I know that happened at least in my daughter's 155 bracket (her section's 1 is on the top half and 2 is on bottom half) but I didn't check that against every other regional in every semi-state. I think there's a possibility for a Bussard/Trenary rematch in the Rochester semis which has actually become more interesting since Bussard was able to get one over on Trenary.

Rochester bracket just dropped and they rightly put Winner and Trenary opposite one another. Winner has the possibility of a tough match in the ticket round against Paloma Shull.