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Maybe this could be the seeding criteria:
 
1. Returning middle school state champ
2. Returning middle school state placer
3. ISWA folkstyle schoolboy state champ
4. ISWA folkstyle schoolboy top 4 placer
5. ISWA folkstyle novice state champ
6. ISWA folkstyle novice top 4 placer
 
If you have none of these you go unseeded. From being there the last three years, I think this would give us fair brackets.
 
Thoughts?????

Here's a small sample of what the Evansville semi-state was.

I wish someone built a website where every kid had a profile with name school grade career record state experience and national placement that would help

So many hypotheticals have been brought up, but here is my actual Spring schedule with the 2 qualifying tournament rule.
 
March 6-8 Kids Folkstyle State
 
March 14 Big kids Folkstyle State
 
March 15-22 Spring Break Vacation in FL (much needed after high school season)
 
March 28 FREE DAY!!!
 
April 3-5 USAW Folkstyle Nat'ls
 
April 10-12 Kingsport Duals (Heartland Duals is the same weekend)
 
April 18 Center Grove
 
April 25 Franklin
 
May 1-3 Freestyle State
 
I have 2 kids that wrestle right now so I guess I should only have one. I guess I shouldn't take a vacation either. I am a youth coach. How do I tell my wrestling parents that they should travel and get some out of state exposure and wrestle freestyle? I am forced to choose traveling or freestyle. Guess which one I'm leaning on eliminating from my schedule.
 
And I live an hour from Indy. It's not the drive time.... it's having a life.

Here's another issue I don't think has been touched on or thought thru...
 
If the ISWA goal is to grow these styles (which in turns will lead to more club revenue a win/win), what level and below i.e schoolboy, novice, cadet is the focus group? Example, I assume the high school wrestler class (Cadet, Jr) will not be "growing" in numbers. If they aren't wrestling now, they more than likely won't be. So mandating that group to attend 2 more isn't growing the sport, but would grow revenue as that is a captive clientele. They're invested/committed at this point so they will attend if at all possible. So that gets us to the schoolboy and below levels. This is a good group/pool/age to to find growth in due to numbers, interests etc. So, say we agree on that (for the sake of this argument). For the most part then, we are looking at young kids and can anyone else think of another sport played in the Spring that is quite popular? I can. Baseball! I would guess most of those leagues start in mid-late April at the latest. So at a time when we're on this site pumping Urban Meyer for promoting kids to not concentrate on just one sport, the ISWA is basically telling a kid and family in the age group they are hoping to grow from, that they MUST attend 2 more events  to qualify for a state tourney. Now that family might be getting the wrestling bug, and really want to go to the state event, but if they have to take the kid away from his little league team for 2 more weekends (beside state), plus the added travel/costs of doing so as compared to driving to a local park as a family...I'm guessing they choose baseball which doesn't promote growth in wrestling. I get their are travel teams etc, but if they are already on baseball travel teams at that age, I don't think they're going to the 2 mandated ISWA events anyway!
 
I'm just really confused. If we want TEAM IN to dominate the styles, mandating attendance will work because only the committed will be there and the elite will get better...if we want to grow the sport and the styles (and in turn revenue), mandating attendance will backfire in my opinion because the  time/monetary/sport choice decision is not one that will be won by wrestling for those families/kids just tipping their toes in the wrestling water, which is the age group where growth can come from.
 
I'm with AJ. The vision/goal must be decided. Is it to increase FS/GK ability, promote growth of the overall sport, or just increase club revenues. I think if we're truthful on that answer, the path becomes clearer.
 
Disclaimer: I support the ISWA. I hope I can figure out a way to qualify for FS/GK state.

Here are the basics of this:
 
Five weeks to find two tournaments to attend, lets not even figure in driving 2+ hours
Take out one week for spring break, that leaves four weeks to find two tournaments.
Heaven forbid we have a family, church, school function on another weekend...now down to 3 weeks to find a tournament.
That doesn't include a large group that goes to Scholastic Duals or any other national level event losing another possible weekend!
 
NOW let's figure in if there is a tournament within even an hour of where you live!
 
I can't wait to have the conversation with a kid that truly wanted to go to freestyle state and tell him that since he went to the band competition, Aunt Sally's birthday party, or on family vacation he can't go.

It's interesting.  As I have talked with folks up north and down south, an opinion many have felt for years keeps coming up.  Namely, the ISWA is run like everybody in Indiana lives in the Indianapolis area.  
 
Reread this thread.  Most of the people arguing for the 2 tournament qualifier are from Indy.  Most of the people who feel disadvantaged by the 2 tournament qualifier are from the northern or southern portions of the state.  
 
Someone said 'come to the board meetings.'  Sure, if you live around Indy, that is a 25 minute drive.  If you live in Evansville or Elkhart, it's 3 hours one-way.  I understand that 50% of the population of our state lives within 60 minutes of Indy.  However, that also means 50% of the population lives 2-3 hours away.  It costs people from Evansville or Elkhart about $300-$400 per trip to Indy.  
 
If I was to make any suggestion, it would be to broadcast the board meetings as a googlehangout.  It doesn't cost anything.  And it would give people outside Indy a chance to electronically raise their hand and offer input, so we don't end up in these situations where people in the north/south feel disadvantaged by those from the Indy area who don't seem to get it.  
 
For those of you who live in and around Indy, imagine if the ISWA told you that you must drive and get a hotel in Evansville for folkstyle state, and come to Evansville for freestyle state, and then after you have spent all day at a Saturday Indianapolis high school tournament you need to drive to Evansville and back on a Sunday for a board meeting.  And btw, we have changed the rules about qualifying for freestyle state so you must travel down to Evansville at least 2 more times this year to get local qualifying tournaments.  And then when you voice concern about having to drive from your home in Indy to Evansville so many times and spend so much money, those responsible for creating the situation tell you the problem is that you don't participate enough and attend enough board meetings down in Evansville.  That would be quite an insulting way to treat you. 

I don't think NUWAY does a very good job on promoting their events.  It is always hard to navigate their website.  I knew about the dual, but did not find anything out about the youth open that was on friday until it was too late.  It did look like there was some great compitition from the east coast and California.  Next time they run this event they should look to see what the host state has going on, so they don't schedule it again during our elementary state dual.