Wrestling Scholar

Thats still impressive, but also depressing for all the other schools in the sectional. Those schools are in the stage of acceptance now.

After this weekends sectional championships, what schools continued their sectional dominance? How many consecutive years has your school won the sectional? Im assuming EMD has the longest streak, and i know Perry Meridian Merrillville, Crown Point seem to always win their sectionals. I did see Harrison West Lafayette's streak was in jeapardy this weekend, but they had a great finals round to win the Lafayette Jeff sectional and posted their 10th title tin 10 years.

I always thought this was an unfortunate rule and should be re-thought. I guess there's two perspectives. The rule was derived as some coaches thought the team that had a wrestler in the rat-tail round had a small advantage of gaining bonus points(pin, tech or major) and an advancement point. Of course only happens if they win the rat tail match. But the other perspective is getting placed in the rat tail round sucks, the wrestler faces the dilemma of a one and done day if he loses and cant score any points for his team under a loss, which I consider a big disadvantage. So IMO, if a wrestler gets the bad draw and gets stuck in the rat tail, he should also receive the team scoring benefits of winning the match and be scored instead of ignoring this for team purposes. Its like a double whammy, you get a bad draw and your match doesnt count if you win. Of course this silly rule was the impetus for the silly rule of not scoring the first round at semi-state and state in prior years as we had to be consistent in our dislogic over the whole tournament. Gratefully, that most silly rule was corrected at the semi-state and state level two years ago.

Hey Galagore, one of the problems is that we have so many wrestlers at the same location at the same time in semi-state and State. Ive heard rumors that a solution would be to create an impromptu 3 division class wrestling system for the state tournament to alleviate the density of people in one spot. Do you think thats a good idea? Covid might get us class wrestling.

I think a video feed is going to have to be a compromise this year. How logisitically possible is it to have a Track Wrestling video feed on every sectional and regional mat? I suppose a lot, but not all teams will have a video feed of their teams. Just going to have to find it. IMO, letting the parents in might be a good compromise. Most gyms still could accomadate parents and social distance. On a more critical issue, Ive heard that some school districts are not letting athletes travel to and compete in counties that are in red status. So are ADs going to compromise and let there wrestlers compete at sectionals, regionals and semi-state if the counties are in red that host the sectional or regional. With that said, would the IHSAA move a sectional or regioanal to a school in a county that has an orange or lower status?

The good news it might be more interesting next year in Tippecanoe County, and I like seeing some jazz about the sectional. Jeff did make a good run in 2015 and was probably there best team in the 9 year time span and was probably better than the 2007 team. Jeff beat Harrison in dual that year(14-15), but came up a little short in conference, sectionals and regionals. To be honest, I think your McCutcheon Mavericks will contend more with Harrison next year then Jeff. Program is going in the direction and you got some quality back. Have to find a way to compete in every weight class at sectional to do it. To note on Harrison, they by far had the deepest Varsity B and JV and had multiple kids that could of placed at sectionals on the varsity B and they do have one of the stronger freshman classes coming in they've had in a while. The question mark will be in their upper weights. West Lafayette has some good quality back to but probably not enough depth to compete for title but could shake some points up. I heard rumor that Harrison was going to put a roman numeral X on the right leg of the singlet like Iowa did when they were going for their 10th consecutive NCAA title back in the 80s. That would be one of the better signs for the other teams. But in all seriousness, Coach Henry would be too smart for that as it didn't work out well for Iowa.

Now what are we going to watch while were cooped up in our quarantined sites? I only can watch so many episodes of the office. How am I going to get my sports fix? Im going to need psychological help. This is depressing

Kansas is ranked #1. So they get the vote in championship if everything is cancelled. Maybe a subtle motive to quit playing while they're ahead.

Iowa University- National Champions- Since its highly unlikely that were going to have a National Championship now thanks to NCAA freaking out. So I guess we got to go with the polls. Here's a pre-emptive congratulations to the Hawkeyes. Also, I suggest we go with seedings for the Individual All-Americans. Banner year for Purdue with 4 All-Americans. Congrats Purdue. I think the Fred Hoiberg drama last night was the straw that broke the camels back that will cause cancellation of everything in NCAAs. Thanks Basketball, you get to screw wrestling again. Yea, and don't tell me Fred Hoiberg wasn't feeling good yesterday afternoon prior to the game. Have some common sense. He could done just as well with his last place basketball team with an asst coach coaching. Here's Fred Hoibergs quote: "Please let it be known that I would never do anything that would put my team, family or anyone else in harm's way," Hoiberg wrote.

Huge lack of judgement on Hoiberg.

With No fans allowed at the NCAA basketball tournament, its almost a certainty they wont allow fans in Minnesota next week. I hope they don't cancel the whole tournament. Its possible.

Better than no tournament at all. I would also like to get an expert opinion from @regionrat1 about the affect of the wonderful smelling regional air would have on the Coronavirus.

I just start on with my qualifications. Im an expert because I have "Scholar" in my avatar name and I read a lot of stuff on the internet. I also took a biology course in college and played high school football. Maybe the problem is worse because we have 264MM more people in the US. If the death rate is 2-3% which is likely overstated but, keep in mind that's still 200% to 300% more deadly than the flu. And that's a lot more people that can get infected and die in the US. Compound this with this with the fact that we have so many more people who are uninsured and underinsured, which is going to result with a lot of people not going to the doctor when they should because of the fear the cost. Also, the US does has a shortage of ICU beds. Compound that with the incompetent way our govt has responded to the pandemic already. Also, it bothers me when were saying its the media's fault. I respectfully disagree on that comment, maybe its better for the media to be giving us too much information. As compared to our govt not being transparent and lying to us that we have under control so you can stop pulling money out of the stock market. Postponing/cancelling ISWA state this weekend is unfortunate. I did hear they're looking for alternate sites. I think were reacting too early in this case, because its barely here and in my opinion the risk is low at this point. I was thinking of Warren Central's motives: Was it fear of a lawsuit if somebody came down with the Corona Virus, or are they worried about thousands of people running around their school spreading germs for the kids when they came back, or maybe they were worried about the potential criticism of being the school that brought a large group of people together. Im really concerned the NCAA nationals next weekend in Minneapolis. This is potentially could be cancelled or at least for the fans. It will be driven by the NCAA's choice to run basketball games for March Madness. What ever the NCAA decides for basketball, the NCAA will follow. That's a lot of cash for the NCAA to lose. Concerned.

Congrats to the Boilermakers 5th place finish. 2 Finalists and 8 national qualifiers is outstanding. This was a hell of a tournament for Purdue. Im predicting, Purdue will end the All-American drought in two weeks. I think 3 or 4 All-Americans at NCAAs. I guess it takes some break through the ceiling, but Ersland did that this weekend. His first 5 years looked like the same old Purdue, near the bottom of the Big 12. I kind of expected the same status quo. But this year they look formidable. They were just behind a down Penn State, but the Boilers were competing with the Nitany Lions, and that's saying something. I hope Ersland leverages this success in the recruiting process.

So you're saying a high school in Indiana will have its own gym with really good seating for wrestling fans , and not have to share a basketball court? What you talkin about Willis?

https://www.ncaa.com/news/wrestling/article/2020-02-27/ncaa-reveals-qualifier-allocations-2020-ncaa-di-wrestling With the allocations, what are Purdue's wrestlers chances of making the NCAA. Possibly 7 or even 8 on a good day wrestling. Lydy, Bruner, Schroder, Coleman would get wild cards and are locks. Penola probably would get wildcard too. Fillius, Parriott and Lyon all are going to have to wrestle to get in and cant afford an upset. Should be a fun day.

Hope about giving the small town coaches a chance to win a championship and having there wrestlers a chance to win a championship. That might keep them around..

That's a good point. They wrestle the same Indiana schools and don't join the IHSAA do to some religious beliefs. Since this is not an IHSAA event, why exclude them. I guess on the flip side, they don't state sectional, regional and SS points so makes them difficult to compare. But could you make an exception on the vote in.

Possible compromise to get best of both worlds: The Grand State Compromise method Back in my home state of Kansas, a well known "drink the class wrestling cool aid state", actually once upon a time came up with a method to have a one class champion like Indiana and have individual class champions. It was like having your cake and eating it to. They did it as follows: 1.They had their normal state championship with 4 divisions (6A, 5A, 4A, 321A) and took two weeks to wrestle. They placed 4 places in each division. Each class had its champions and placers, so business like normal. Yes, they had wrestle backs. 2. In week 3, the 16 state placers from all four divisions were invited to a "Grand State". The format was the 4th placer finisher drew a 1st place finisher from another division. I think the divisions were randomly drawn Like the 6a state champ would wrestle the 1-2-3A 4th place finisher. (It was 4 vs 1 and 2 vs 3). When tournament was done, you had your Kansas state champion (unclassed). I believe they did it in 1976 and 1977. It was quite popular, but the reason it failed was it was the coaches felt it was too much time and money to put another week in the season and the additional travel costs to travel to a central location. Indiana could do this and get it done in the same four week schedule they currently have. I know a knew paradigm. I know people would say it fair proportionally to have 4 wrestlers from the big class and 4 from the small class. Maybe a compromise would be top 5 go from the big class and top 3 from the small class. The Scholar is submitting ideas as solutions, not complaints.

See the Steiber brothers for Ohio d3 success.

1. There are a handful of cases, where some varsity B/JV kids that could qualify for state. The Blue Chippers like Brownsburg, Cathedral, Warren, EMD are deep and there 2nd string could make state. But rare. I do recall about 5 years ago, Penn had a good kid behind Osborne and other state quality level kids and the kid wrestled Varsity B all year. But next year was wrestling on a college team beating state placers. @UncleJimmy or @M109R know the kid. 2. Back to the original point, if a rule allowed for schools to enter two kids. The big programs would have a lot of varsity B kids placing at sectional and regional and would squeeze out the small schools. Maybe the elite wrestlers small schools would make it through, but this would take out tons of 1A and 2a regional and SS qualifiers. Check the scores of the Varsity B teams and they end up wrestling small programs and win more than they lose.

Time for Winamac to lobby the "Committee of Power". Maybe throw in some free passes to Fair Oaks and some Fair Oaks Ice free Ice Cream coupons.

Most of these states don't think there's too many. But Ill admit they don't have a board like IndianaMat to keep to give them relative info to base a good opinion on.

This is core DNA thought in Indiana. In all Individual sports, the competitor is equal and has no disadvantage or advantage dependent of what school you go to. You have the same chance to win no matter if you go to Carmel or if you go to Frontier high school. This goes the same for all Individual sports: Tennis, Track, Swimming, Cross Country, Gymnastics, Golf. On the flip, in team sports the thought is the more participants you have that go out for football, the more likely you're team will be equivalently better. This is very much true, and is proven by the data shown.

Wyoming is not called the Equality State for nothing. Everybody gets a chance to place there.