Thats Great Ron, can't wait to see the lil guy on the mat. You are correct Lance is great with the kids and a technician him and Robert. Not a whole lot of Tiny ones to wrestle with but its not all that important. Perry on the other hand Have you been to the Elementary practices? With all there is a dynasty of lil wrestlers there, at the youth level and they are only goin to get stronger. Tonte and Schoettle has built the perfect program starting with those 4 year olds we are talkin about. Just my opinion You will love it wherever you take him. The bond that you build with the kids and other parents is the best. I love it and Im gonna miss it when my boys done. Youll actually if your anything like alot of us been takin our kids to National Touneys by 5, you meet some really great peopl, its fun. Enjoy!!