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We are just a really progressive state. That’s why we don’t have wrestle backs or divisions. I’m a sucker. I’ve always loved being the underdog and I love the thought of being a one class state champion, but a couple classes would definitely help our state.

*17-18 PH was conference duals champ

I’d say 2020 are probably more “normal”

Of course that helps, but you’ve gotta start somewhere. My first year we might’ve had 20 kids on the roster and we didn’t have a winning record. I think we had 18 wrestlers or less at the end of the season and a handful were first year wrestlers.

We have 591 kids in our school and we’ve started the last two seasons around 50. We’ve finished both seasons above 40. I’m sure this isn’t “normal”, but there wasn’t a magic formula to getting the kids out.

Bo and Blake Davis 2015 Blake and Beck Davis 2016

But that’s the thing...they weren’t at Busco. In three years you’ve sent 6 to state at EN. I’d bet you send another 12-20 in the next 7 years. Let’s say you only send another 12. That’s 18 qualifiers in 10 years. You had 4 at Busco in 10 years. You cannot tell me going to a school almost 4x larger doesn’t make a difference.

I mean , we went to Disney and wrestled the Gold Division, but we weren’t supposed to because of school size...we did because what’s the point of traveling to Florida to wrestle the 2a Team State Championship ? We are definitely trying. I’ve even been asking to split our conference into two divisions for years so we don’t have to wrestle everybody in our conference. We want more opportunities with schools like Penn, Mishawaka, Chesterton, etc. We’ve had a few kids at Al Smith with some unique results BD goes 1-2 at Al Smith then places 3rd at state and beats Al Smith champ at state (why’d he go 1-2 at Al Smith? Was it because of our schedule that I can’t change much ?) CF 3rd and 4th at Al Smith, but 2x runner up. (Did he lose his first encounter at Al Smith because of our schedule that I can’t change much ?) It’s all a debate and I have no problem debating, but we are trying as I know other small schools are

I like what you’re saying and we do some of those things in my town. The programs you’re describing are the top teams in Indiana, which happen to be wealthy programs with wealthy club accounts. They have the money and resources. We still are going to try to win SS and state and all of that. We’ve won matches against the powerhouses at state, but for a general rule of thumb , we do have more obstacles. Paying for kids trips, scheduling awesome opponents, having kids play multiple sports, and training partners are a few examples. Wouldn’t it be a lot easier for me to have a kid who ONLY wrestles? That doesn’t happen in small town Indiana where the 170 pound kid is a lineman. Wouldn’t it be easier if our club account had $xx,xxx in it instead of $xxxx? We can fix that sure, but we are already paying for a lot for kids. I’d say there’s no lack of effort at my school and I know other small schools that are similar. Again, I’m okay with the one class system and we will roll with whatever’s happening in Indiana, but clearly the big schools have a huge advantage and that’s not hard to see.

I get some of what you're saying...so since we've had a bunch of kids wrestling since kindergarten that'll roll into my high school program in about 4-5 years...we should have a bunch of state champions despite our school size ?

This is dumb. Where are all the UFC Champions from? The bigger gyms. I'm not saying at Garrett we can't get kids to the finals and win a state championship. We have made the finals and we will have an individual champion. But, to say, or to infer that big schools don't have an advantage is ignorant. Period. We've had 3 placers since I've been at Garrett. They've had to work their butts off to find matches outside of season and their partners are typically our coaches who were collegiate wrestlers. We don't have the luxury of having a kid show up in our hallways as a freshman, we get him to wrestle, and boom he's under the lights within 4 years. Since I've been at Garrett we've started them young and I'm sure we will have some high placers in the future, but wouldn't it be a lot easier at a bigger school with more money, more resources, better training partners? We can out coach some of the biggest baddest schools in Indiana wrestling and still lose. Iron sharpens iron. We've been getting the best athletes out for wrestling at our school, but again, there'd be a lot more to choose from if we had 1500-3000 kids instead of under 600. 106 state champ (enrollment 1819) 113 state champ (enrollment 2445) 120 state champ (enrollment 2063) 126 state champ (enrollment 1099/parochial--not saying they recruit...they don't have to--people come to them) 132 state champ (enrollment 2810) 138 state champ (enrollment 2855) 145 state champ (enrollment 2055) 152 state champ (enrollment 1815) 160 state champ (enrollment 497.....MD...parochial...don't argue with me, but this is not a normal "small school" 170 state champ (enrollment 1225) 182 state champ (enrollment 497 ...MD...see above) 195 state champ (enrollment 225...they should make a movie about the kid...awesome) 220 state champ (enrollment 1747) 285 state champ (enrollment 2412) But, the big schools just work harder than us little pions ... btw I like the one class system for individual state...but some of these arguments are flat out arrogant and ignorant

106 wrestling and xc 113 wrestling 120 wrestling and hockey 126 wrestling and xc 132 wrestling and football 138 wrestling 145 wrestling and football 152 wrestling soccer and tbd 160 wrestling football track 170 wrestling football track 182 wrestling football track 195 wrestling football 220 wrestling football track 285 wrestling football track

Lol...if y2 is who I think it is I'm pretty sure he's friends with all those guys...

I miscalculated...I had another SAC Qualifier as well..Dwenger x 2. Southside x 2. 1 Northrop....and then 2 Snider matches up for grabs.

TGWS

As far as team scores...I'd never not pick my Railroaders to win it, so here's my top 5: 1. Garrett 2. Carroll 3. Western 4. Oak Hill 5. Northridge

I have 4 making it to state from the SAC...maybe a 5th

Who was that and from what schools ?

We’ve missed it before. It makes me nervous.

So, the points are not updated yet?

Chacon is pretty good...

106 Mallott EN 113 Miller LL Byerley EN 120 Sprague, Puckett, Kalimanni...Toss up for title between Puckett and Sprague 126 Olson 132 Hawkins 138 Miller then Hooley 145 Levitz vs Watts toss up that decides champ 152 Stockman 160 Buchanan then Lone 170 Lundy 182 Lockwood 195 Khaoucha...Hunter vs. Behm to get to the finals should be good 220 Benjamin then Dillbone 285 Villafuerte

Oh, haha...I forgot East Noble was in there...they'll have 2-3 kids make a big impact too..sorry Aidan!

Ester was my coach and he told me all about Brownlee and I also was told how Elijah was his son and how good he was going to be.

Villafuerte, Ben Miller...couple Northridge kids...Buchanan Jimtown...maybe Jimtown 120 Kilimaney (sp?)...haven’t looked at brackets. Those just come to mind. Also, Levitz.