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Well I am back on the boycott freestyle state bandwagon after just wasting $40 on the Iron Eagle Columbia City tournament.I went to sign up for Penn's freestyle tournament on March 26th, but could not because they moved it to April 30th.FYI there are no other freestyle tournaments offered on the weekend of March 26th in Indiana.So we are giving 7 weekends to wrestle in 2 freestyle tournaments, but only 6 weekends offer tournaments.Now throw in 3 very expensive tournaments that are all supported by ISWA(National middle school duals, Heartland Duals, and USA Nationals) and you are down to 3 weekends.Out of those weekends one is Ohio TOC which is probably a better tournament then USA Nationals and Viper Pit Dual(Indiana is the defending champion).That leaves us with 1 weekend(Iron eagle), which I will just skip instead of paying for 2 nights of hotels and food.Thanks again ISWA.

Well I am back on the boycott freestyle state bandwagon after just wasting $40 on the Iron Eagle Columbia City tournament.  I went to sign up for Penn's freestyle tournament on March 26th, but could not because they moved it to April 30th.  FYI there are no other freestyle tournaments offered on the weekend of March 26th in Indiana.  So we are giving 7 weekends to wrestle in 2 freestyle tournaments, but only 6 weekends offer tournaments.  Now throw in 3 very expensive tournaments that are all supported by ISWA(National middle school duals, Heartland Duals, and USA Nationals) and you are down to 3 weekends.  Out of those weekends one is Ohio TOC which is probably a better tournament then USA Nationals and Viper Pit Dual(Indiana is the defending champion).  That leaves us with 1 weekend(Iron eagle), which I will just skip instead of paying for 2 nights of hotels and food.  Thanks again ISWA.

Both teams look very impressive.  I am excited to see if they can best the 2013 team's finish.  Thank you to all the people that helped put this together so Indiana can have a competitive national team.

On the eve of the Heartland Dual tryouts I would like to talk about the 2013 team that Indiana sent there.  I hope by doing this those that are on the fence about trying out decide to come.  The competition is amazing and competing on this team correlates to success in the future.

2013 3rd place team

50-Tyson Lane (moved to Florida, several ISWA state titles)

55-Nicolas Castelluccio (ISWA state champ)

60-Jesse Mendez (middle school state champ)

65-Raymond Rioux (several ISWA titles, freshman next year)

70-Trey Lane (106lb Florida state champ as a freshman)

75-Asa Garcia (106lb state champ as a freshman)

80-Jake Schoenegge (semi state qualifier at 113 losing in ticket round to eventual state placer)

85-Johnny Parker (several time ISWA state champ)

90-Peyton Pruett (113lb semi state qualifier)

95-Nathan Conley (132lb state qualifier)

100-Tucker Coffman (145 semi state qualifier)

105-Carson Brewer (Middle school state champ, injured freshman year of high school)

112-Brooks Wathen (138 state qualifier)

120-Eli Pokorney (170lb semi state qualifier)

130-Alex Hirschfield (152lb regional qualifier in Illinois which is their version of our semi state)

140-Andrew Irick (middle school state champ)

160-Franklin Hammond (11-3 his freshman year)

This team beat Illinois gold for 3rd place, only losing one dual to Ohio grapplers.

So lets make sure we get the best kids our state has to offer at the tryouts tomorrow.  Go to www.iswa.com for more info.

I respect your thoughts and believe I understand what you are trying to say:  you don't like being made to do something it sounds like is the bottom line.  But what you are also proposing is to go wrestle folkstyle tournaments nationally, and then your FIRST freestyle tournament is the Schoolboy Duals against national competition - and expect perform at your maximum level?  I don't believe that is the best formula for national success again the BEST.  Could your wrestler go undefeated at Schoolboys? Absolutely.  But to expect that same success using your proposed formula against the top Cadets and Juniors is false.  Still, like you said, it is absolutely your decision and that's fair.  But when said wrestler maxes out that potential and is having trouble against the best Cadet and Juniors in the country, when it REALLY counts, understand this is when their lack of training in the international styles shows it's face.  

Coach Hull, you make a lot of good points but I still fail to understand how the local tournaments are going to improve my wrestler.  We train freestyle 3 to 4 days a week after folkstyle state, so we aren't going into state and schoolboy duals just winging it.  I also understand that by forcing wrestlers to do these tournaments there may be a few competitive matches at the local tournaments, but we would be crossing our fingers for that to happen opposed to knowing for sure that we will get good matches at FloNationals or the other national duals. Only thing I am asking is for certain events to count toward the 2 tournament rule.(Heartland duals, middle school duals, and USA Nationals)  Thanks for your reply and insight on the whole situation.  I am not as upset about the whole situation after reading your posts.

We train freestyle we just don't want to be forced to wrestle in local freestyle tournaments, how is that hard to understand? I promise you that 3 matches in these local tournaments will be less then 2 minutes.  RWA trains freestyle and it is more then enough training to compete and win a USA national freestyle title.  Indiana state is also not required to compete in the central regional, which is the only requirement to wrestle in the national tournament.  So again I say feel free to skip state.  We won't bc we want to wrestle in schoolboy duals, but if teams were hand picked we would definitely just skip this.  I hate being forced to do something.  Don't underestimate the talent in Indiana.  If we want to compete in bigger events opposed to local freestyle tournaments I feel like it should be our decision to do so.

We planned on skipping state last year and was given a waiver right before or we would have missed it.  They have about 3 weeks to figure something out.

Also the way it reads anyone can wrestle in the central regional without wrestling in the state tournament.  The central regional is the only requirement needed to wrestle in freestyle Nationals, so for those who want to skip state go ahead.

I hate this rule.  I feel like it is hurting the kids that are looking to better themselves and wrestle in national events.  Why would we want to stay in state and wrestle mostly beginners in freestyle when we could be wrestling 5 to 6 matches in a national tournament.  Some of our kids are killing it on the national scene and now they have to take a step back to compete in local tournaments.  If it wasn't for schoolboy duals we would skip the state tournament all together.  For those of you guys that will argue that kids need to learn freestyle, don't worry we get more then enough training in our academy.  The matches in practice are much more beneficial then the few seconds the matches will take in these local tournaments we are being forced to wrestle in. 

Here is a look at what we are missing:

March 18-20:TOA Youth Showcase(also NCAA Championships included in this weekend tournament) or Rocky Mountain Nationals

March 25-27:Post Season Nationals or FloNationals

April 1-3rd: USA Nationals(ISWA national tournament should be an exception)

April 8-10: Reno Worlds or Middle School Duals(team Indiana's national team definitely should be an exception competing for our state) or AAU Tenn National duals

April 15-18: Heartland Duals (ISWA team Indiana, again definitely should be an exception)

April 22-24:Ohio Tournament of Champions

April 29-1st: Viper Pit Dual and Open

If there is an exception it should be competing in 2 or more of the bold tournaments.  Middle School duals and heartland duals are showcased in the ISWA magazine as team Indiana events, but if you represent the state of Indiana you may not be able to wrestle in freestyle state.  By the way I have posted on ISWA's site and they never respond to my post.

The best way to get ranked higher in the nation is to wrestle in national tournaments, but ISWA is preventing that.  The best national tournaments are right after folkstyle state, but we have to miss some of them to compete in local freestyle tournaments(wrestling mostly beginners) so we can qualify for freestyle state.  #boycottfreestylestate

glad someone else noticed how entertaining this guy was.  Definitely needs to be a frequent visitor on the hangouts. I kept 4 open the whole time and used my other screen to bounce around.  good job guy

I am a little upset... ok a lot upset about the kegs not being tapped in Bankers Life.

I know that the intent behind weighing in with singlet and shoes is supposed to prevent kids from cutting weight, but I feel like most people use this method to cut more weight.  Most singlets and shoes are 1.5 giving kids another .5 they don't have to drop.  Also most kids wake up lighter, so I think a weigh in the night before would actually prevent kids from cutting a bunch of weight.  Also doing the weigh in the night before the tournament can start right on time at 9. 

I was also disappointed that for this big of a tournament they were not running full mats.  Maybe this event can be held at the Coliseum next year with full mats.  The only good thing was that the tournament took so long that by the time we got out of there the highways were opened back up and clear all the way home.

106-Mills, Cavanaugh, Murphy, Garcia

113-Cummings, Weaver, White, Annakin

120-Hildebrandt, Reitz, Mulkey, Rooks

126-Bailey, Hudkins, Torres, DeLaPena

132-Lee, Red, Molley, Black

138-Lee, McKinney, Crary, Schurg

145-Lee, McIntosh, B. Laughlin, Kern

152-BAM, Pruitt, Prentice, McCormick

160-Covaciu, Warren, Whitaker, Garman

170-Hughes, Baumgartner, Walten, Cornejo

182-Davison, Damler, Rypel, Mutuwa

195-Tonte, Kleimola, Wilderman, Stewart

220-Parris, Woods, Larson, Ellis

285-Streck, Galligar, York, Samuels

Brownsburg team Champs

7 champs:

Cummings, Hildenbrandt, BAM, Covaciu, Hughes, Davison, Streck

Looks like you got some right & missed some . 6/7th graders looked great , 8th graders are going to be some tough Freshman coming into their Highschools . Even though it was snowing outside, nasty wrecks around the State. We had all the entertainment we needed inside the *Worlds Largest High School Gymnasium*. *learn something everyday*

Great Job to the IHSWCA & New Castle Wrestling, ISWA .

lol I got almost all of them right.  Tuesch at 75 didn't sign up till after my predictions and he was expected to be at 80, so I won't take the hit on that one.  117 and 150 were the only ones I missed, but I did get the runner up listed.  either way the gold and blue teams are going to be really good for the National middle School duals.

Any new predictions now that most wrestlers are registered? It looks like 95 and 117 are loaded with talent.

All these kids should place with 1 of them being the champ(no particular order)

75- Allen, Nelson, Fogarty, Tuttle

80-Freeman, Dalton, Watson, Goin, Bates

85-Cottey, Diaz, Mendez, Carrington, Jr, Tonner, Fuqua

90-Duncan, Alsott, Koontz, Mis, Zeltzer

95-Drousias, Campbell, Montgomery, Bailey

102-Littell, Wagner, Conley

110-Viduya, Boarman, McKivitz

The higher the weight the less familiar I am with these kids, but here is a few I have heard of.

117-Williams, Reynolds

125-Bates, Freije

132-Calhoun, Ellis

140-LaPlace, Bowman, Turley

150-Verbeek, Friedt

160-Allred

Since registration closes at 8 on Saturday and no one can change their weights they should have the brackets posted Saturday night after they seed it.  This way there is no delay Sunday morning.  All they would have to do is take out any kid that doesn't show or make weight giving their opponent a bye. 

Hopefully they don't do it like last year where they posted it on track right before the tournament started.(wasn't seeded either)

Almost every kid starting from CP attends RWA the other 2 used to attend the twisters. CP does have a beginner club that they use to get kids interested in the sport.

106-Moran, Cavanaugh, McCartney, Diaz

113-Cummings/Triana, Uribe, Slates, Poynter

120-Hildebrandt, Reitz, Moran, Anderson

126-DeLaPena, Torres, Porter, Rodriguez/Biacardi

132-Black, Tolin, Strawsma, Rumph

138-Hatch, Schurg, Crary, Lukaska

145-Rodriguez, Laughlin, McIntosh, Colza

152-BAM, Prentice, Lemley, Scott

160-Covaciu, Kasch, Swank, Malone

170-Hughes, Cornejo, Mote, Pokorney

182-Davison, James, Mutuwa, Gibbs

195-Kleimola, Larsen, Correll, Vakalahi

220-Woods, Crider, Kukurugya, Streck

285-Streck, Ceglarek, McWilliams, Clark

Team Race will be: Portage/Penn/Crown Point

I definitely think it is harder to find a high school champ that has never won a middle school title.

Only kid I can think have that didn't win a middle school title and won state was Jeremiah Reitz.

6 or 8 from east chicago SS?

7 from EC SS.  8 if Torres can win as well.

Hughes is as much as a lock as Streck is.

Wanna bet? I'll take the under.

For sure.  I'll take 6 and up.  I'll be at state.  loser buys a pitcher.

3 champs from Calumet and 3 champs from Crown Point Regionals for sure... possible 2 more between the 2 regionals.