The Genius Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, LJB said: a buddy just brought up a good point... if dake handles his business in a few, russia leaves with no gold medals in free... when is the last time that has happened? Excluding 2022 for obvious reasons, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irani Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, maligned said: You have to make drastic changes to training, but it's always possible to greatly improve aerobic capacity if that's your weakness. Getting a two minute rest during the challenge review also helped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irani Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 59 minutes ago, The Genius said: Amouzad has to wrestle the winner of Otoguro and Mamedov for Bronze, so at least we will still see one of those matches Bronze is by no means guaranteed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Genius Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 The 65kg and 97kg draws were extremely lopsided this year. 65kg top half: Amouzad, Otoguro, Mamedov, Musukaev and USA 97kg top half: Sadulaev, Snyder, Goleij, Baitsaev and Tazhudinov Nokhodi was also unfortunate with the random draw of Usmanov (the only guy better than him) in his half of the bracket. Emami also unlucky and likely would have won Bronze on the other half of the bracket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Genius said: Excluding 2022 for obvious reasons, 2017 i was still obsessing over 12 year olds at that time... didn't pay near as much attention to senior wrestling as i do now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Genius said: The 65kg and 97kg draws were extremely lopsided this year. 65kg top half: Amouzad, Otoguro, Mamedov, Musukaev and USA 97kg top half: Sadulaev, Snyder, Goleij, Baitsaev and Tazhudinov Nokhodi was also unfortunate with the random draw of Usmanov (the only guy better than him) in his half of the bracket. Emami also unlucky and likely would have won Bronze on the other half of the bracket. Agreed. On the bottom half of 65, it was, in my opinion, #5 Aliev over #6 Ochir, then #8 Tevanyan upset Aliev and #12 Rivera floated in from a very weak quarter to upset Tevanyan and land in the final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irani Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, The Genius said: The 65kg and 97kg draws were extremely lopsided this year. 65kg top half: Amouzad, Otoguro, Mamedov, Musukaev and USA 97kg top half: Sadulaev, Snyder, Goleij, Baitsaev and Tazhudinov Nokhodi was also unfortunate with the random draw of Usmanov (the only guy better than him) in his half of the bracket. Emami also unlucky and likely would have won Bronze on the other half of the bracket. Very valid point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmrabr Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, maligned said: Agreed. On the bottom half of 65, it was, in my opinion, #5 Aliev over #6 Ochir, then #8 Tevanyan upset Aliev and #12 Rivera floated in from a very weak quarter to upset Tevanyan and land in the final. Don’t get me wrong I much prefer the seeding and ranking event system we have now, but one of the things I’ve really enjoyed about this years worlds is the crazy brackets with unseeded guys all over the place. Just for once was good to be reminded of the old days. maligned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uwwdoc Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Told you guys it is absolute chaos here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Genius Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Uwwdoc said: Told you guys it is absolute chaos here. What does that mean? Why did Azarpira gas so hard? What was Yazdani's plan? He hasn't been able to score a TD or push out against DT for two matches now. Appreciate your insights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irani Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Uwwdoc said: Told you guys it is absolute chaos here. @Uwwdoc do you think Nokhodi can move down to 74 for the Olympics? Can Amir reza Yazdani move up to 74 for the Olympics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uwwdoc Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 minute ago, The Genius said: What does that mean? Why did Azarpira gas so hard? What was Yazdani's plan? He hasn't been able to score a TD or push out against DT for two matches now. Appreciate your insights Sorry I can't post much right now guys due to business but I will answer as much as I "can" when I get a bit if down time whenever that may be...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uwwdoc Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Irani said: @Uwwdoc do you think Nokhodi can move down to 74 for the Olympics? Can Amir reza Yazdani move up to 74 for the Olympics? Both 100% yes. If I was to say now who is the best pick I think it is between these 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uwwdoc Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Uwwdoc said: Sorry I can't post much right now guys due to business but I will answer as much as I "can" when I get a bit if down time whenever that may be...! Can't even spell busyness Edited September 18, 2023 by Uwwdoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irani Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Uwwdoc said: Both 100% yes. If I was to say now who is the best pick I think it is between these 2. 74 qualification will be wild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Genius Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, Uwwdoc said: Sorry I can't post much right now guys due to business but I will answer as much as I "can" when I get a bit if down time whenever that may be...! No worries. Look forward to hearing your take on those things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) @Irani or @The Genius or someone else..can you remind me how your qualification system works? I read about it on the old boards, but I don't remember. Edited September 18, 2023 by maligned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, kmrabr said: Don’t get me wrong I much prefer the seeding and ranking event system we have now, but one of the things I’ve really enjoyed about this years worlds is the crazy brackets with unseeded guys all over the place. Just for once was good to be reminded of the old days. Yes, for sure!! Let's go back to 16 guys on one half and 8 on the other. Throw the names in a hat and pull them out. Add in the best-of-3 ball grab system for extra surprises and start handing out some chance Olympic berths to Singapore and Kenya. AHHHH..the good old days! In all seriousness, I do remember with some fondness how exciting it made the draw reveals. Crazy times...it's hard to believe we had all those factors before. Edited September 18, 2023 by maligned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 57 played out a lot like 97: Olympic champ vs. World champ wrestling for Bronze. Honestly, I wonder how much Uguev or Abakarov will invest in their match. Both have bigger fish to fry and they know they can win that True 5th match much more easily. They may just tussle the first period and loggy-gag through the rest to be sure there's energy left for that extra match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkiane Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Isn’t this 92 world champion the one that lost to Mobin Azimi at Asians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Genius Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, kkiane said: Isn’t this 92 world champion the one that lost to Mobin Azimi at Asians? No, he lost to Arash Yoshida 11-4 at Asians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkiane Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Just now, The Genius said: No, he lost to Arash Yoshida 11-4 at Asians Bizarre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkiane Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Genius said: No, he lost to Arash Yoshida 11-4 at Asians Forgive me u20 Asian champs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Genius Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, kkiane said: Forgive me u20 Asian champs Oh that was U20 Worlds final! I remember it now. Wow. Azimi has a win over the current World champ at 92kg. Not bad kkiane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJB Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Micic and Serbia steal a gold medal… on top of not weighing in, a blatant fleeing the mat gets overturned that would have won the match for higuchi… This as bad as anything I have personally witnessed in wrestling… These types of shenanigans is what got wrestling almost removed from the Olympics… I am physically angry… kkiane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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