yogihof Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Will this tournament count as two (since tourney's count 2) of the 18 max. weigh-in for the season? If it does, how will team schedules adjust on the fly? If it doesn't, I see this becoming a distinct advantage for wreestlers on the teams that particpate since they will get up to three matches against most likely excellent competition that will not count against their season limit. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 agreed. much like the advantage that excellent programs like Jeffersonville, Jennings Co, Penn and Mishawaka get by sending 28-42 kids out each weekend to wrestle varsity competition all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1894life Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I heard that they were waiving the count. Also, the meet is on an invite basis. If you do not wish to come because of scheduling conflicts you can decline your invitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tskin Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Will not count towards your season point total if you attend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogihof Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 I'm having a hard time seeing how a kid from an "Elite" program can get "extra" matches that a good kid from an average program will not get. It seems to me that this could really make the rich richer and the poor poorer. On top of all that, what real meaning will a mid-season tournament have? So you're the best at mid-year; isn't the point to peak at the end at Conseco/Banker's Life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook and half Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I'm having a hard time seeing how a kid from an "Elite" program can get "extra" matches that a good kid from an average program will not get. It seems to me that this could really make the rich richer and the poor poorer. On top of all that, what real meaning will a mid-season tournament have? So you're the best at mid-year; isn't the point to peak at the end at Conseco/Banker's Life? on the one hand, you are concerned about "the rich getting richer", but in the next sentence, it is a detriment, because a team will peak too early. Expanding your premise, this new format could help the "average" team. the "elite teams" are peaking in December in a "meaningless" tournament. this will allow the "average" team to blossom at "The House". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I'm having a hard time seeing how a kid from an "Elite" program can get "extra" matches that a good kid from an average program will not get. It seems to me that this could really make the rich richer and the poor poorer. On top of all that, what real meaning will a mid-season tournament have? So you're the best at mid-year; isn't the point to peak at the end at Conseco/Banker's Life? It will mean what the coaches want it to mean. For Penn State this year and Iowa last year, the National Duals didn't mean enough for them to enter. For Minnesota, it means much more. At the high school level, it could mean a lot more to small and medium size schools who don't routinely qualify multiple kids to state. Ideally, IMO, we would have the dual meet tournament a week after semi state and push back state finals by a week like they do in Michigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1894life Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 If the "elite" teams cared that much they should have been representing full strength at the current style team state. Ihsaa does the same thing for basketball, it is just an honor thing and a good way to strengthen programs from the smaller non "elite" teams. It also gives another goal to strive for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Just work harder and you will be invited, geesh it isn't that hard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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