Seems like pu has all this. Iu lacks one thing. Still not attractive enough to build the rooms up. I guess every one that goes to these two institutions, because they are low on the best programs totem poles, think they should be in the starting lineup. Thus the good ones that don’t start or can’t break thru, leave instead of waiting, unlike programs such as PSU, Minn, mich, Iowa. Where guys who would normally start as sophomore or juniors anywhere else, stick around and wrestle 1 or2 years for these top programs. This gets back to having a good room for the starters to get better. Vicious circle that causes the best programs to prosper and the little guys to to continue to be.