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  1. Full lineup bonuses now added in for 1A-2A-3A. Sorry about that.
  2. Check out the thread with classification in all caps to read all the info. Read the "new procedures" thread for details. Woops. I'll fix it later tonight. Sorry...didnt doublecheck I'd updated the site column on my leaderboard sheet from last year. We're tracking TC correctly in our data though.
  3. Here is the 1A leaderboard through sectionals. This leaderboard is already very meaningful--especially for the top couple teams, who have most likely already qualified. Classification is now finalized (update 2-10). Only changes from last year were Southridge and Western Boone moving down to 1A. (click 2-3 times to zoom)
  4. Here is the 2A leaderboard through sectionals. These scores are somewhat meaningful already. There will still be a good bit of jostling at regionals and semi-state, but the contenders are already filtered toward the upper portion of the board. Classification is now finalized (updated 2-10). Only changes from last year were Southridge and Western Boone moving down from this class to 1A. (click a couple times to zoom)
  5. Here is the 3A leaderboard through sectionals. These scores are slightly more meaningful than 4A, but these teams still need to get most of their team to semi-state and a good chunk to the second round of semi-state or beyond to qualify. (click a couple times to zoom)
  6. Here is the 4A Leaderboard after sectionals. Remember this has very little meaning in 4A at this point. Right now, scores mostly just reflect who has a lot of non-seniors in their lineup. This class doesn't score huge points till semi-state. Teams will most likely need more than half of their team to SS 2nd round or beyond to qualify, so these scores' meaning are very limited.
  7. Yes, this was explained earlier in the week on the procedures document thread. It's back at the top now. Classifications have been TEMPORARILY finalized (new IHSAA numbers haven't been released like they typically are at the end of January or first week of February). Those numbers are now posted on the procedures thread. I'll start a leaderboard thread in a little bit.
  8. Below are PROVISIONAL classification numbers for the 2021-2022 season. If you recall, we always use the new IHSAA numbers when they come out in an odd-numbered February. HOWEVER, if the new numbers aren't released by Friday, February 19 (Friday of state finals), we will use these numbers and no changes will be made. As we stated above, we dipped into teams with 8 forfeits for classification counting to keep the numbers in each class near last year's numbers. As we TEMPORARILY stand, the only impact was that Southridge and Western Boone drop from 2A into 1A. As always, we will use our counted group of schools from scratch if the new IHSAA numbers are released before the state finals since the new numbers are meant to govern next season's sports. Here's the list: Team State Classification 2021.pdf
  9. What grades are these three guys from Noll?
  10. Yeah, it's not a matter of trying to hide the info. The Genius ratings themselves are my creation and something that I like to be intuitive and accurate. If the data points for single teams are less than half the norm--and with many unusual results sprinkled in--certain teams won't be where they intuitively should be. Normally, I can go through and cherry pick removals or adjustments where Castle only brought 7 of their guys to the Mooresville Holiday Classic or the Elkhart tournament used a non-traditional scoring system or whatever else. This season, it just wasn't feasible. So it's not work I can take quite as much pride in on a single-team level. For doing sectional and regional categories, however, there are hundreds of points of immediate connection between sites and thousands of points of secondary connection. Having some duals with less than genuine results gets smoothed out completely by the large amount of overall data points. With a single team, if they're missing 7 guys for a big Saturday event, we could be talking about 25% of their results for the whole season in some cases being "corrupted". This doesn't matter in terms of a sectional's strength, because most of those "corrupted" results balance out by benefitting their sectional/regional counterparts--or represents only 1 of hundreds of first-contact non-sectional/regional data points if there's a non-neighbor opponent involved. With all that said, let me get it into a sortable format with the SoS data in place and I'll post it for people to look at. It's not garbage--just not the standard I like to post for single teams wanting to look at how they stack up. Here you go (remember SoS is just the average of the strength of opponents from the results we had available): Genius 2020-21 (covid raw).xlsx
  11. Mentioned on another thread..FW SS #3 Reumler at 132 for Northridge didn't wrestle sectional.
  12. I wasn't planning on it because there were a lot more unusual results because of forfeits or partial lineups. That means some teams' slots look a little off. However, the data was still good on a group level for setting sectional/regional site difficulties because virtually all events were local--meaning variations in performance were balanced out and the sectional/regional level wasn't affected. For example, one prominent team's rating seems inflated and they came out slotted ahead of a couple teams they lost to at team state. It's because of a really strong performance at their conference against much weaker competition--but all of the conference teams are in their sectional or regional and them having a slightly inflated rating is counterbalanced by the others having a reduced rating because of that same conference event.
  13. Yes, there will. Sectional week is a ton of data to gather and organize for results and for classification so it's always been Wednesday or Thursday but then much quicker the following weeks.
  14. So true. It just means 7 kids get SS advancement points just as Cat 6 or Cat 5 have 6 or 5 that receive them. Same tiebreakers are used. This year is so bizarre in.so many ways. The effects have decimated participation for urban and small schools such that the gap in expected advancers from a few top sectionals and regionals compared to the least competitive sites is even more pronounced than usual. This is the first time we've had three 6s at sectional or a 7 at any site. It's also more 2s than usual. But you can look at the results at the sectional sites and see the vast differences in participation and depth back up the math that got us those numbers.
  15. Links to Frequently Asked Questions about the qualification process are below. Almost all questions we receive every year can be answered in the procedures document itself or here: General Qualification and Scoring Process: Team Classification: Controlling for Sectional and Regional Difficulty: Injuries and "Those scores don't seem fair" situations:
  16. IHSWCA Team State Duals Qualification Procedures 2021.pdf Here's the procedures document for qualification for 2021-22 Team State. The event is tentatively planned for January 8 of next season due to New Year's falling on the previous Saturday. From another post I made earlier..here are the significant changes this season because of covid effects: 1. In 3A and 4A, exactly 6 of the 8 bids will be via automatic qualification, rather than 6 or 7. (Best 3 semi-state highest scores, 2 highest remaining scores as wildcards, then either the 4th semi-state "winner" if they are in the top 10 overall or a 3rd automatic wildcard.) The 1A and 2A classes remain unchanged in terms of automatic bids (10 of the 12). Rationale: More flexibility for intelligently picking both the 7th and 8th teams in 3A and 4A with so many covid issues at play. 2. Only one of the two vote-in choices in each class will be made by the selection committee in April following the season. The final vote-in selection will be made in mid-December 2021 so that one team per class will receive a last-minute bid based on in-season evidence. Rationale: Last-minute invitations after teams had to pull out this year worked well. Especially in a season that will still be so impacted by covid, this will give us the chance to do a trial run of inviting a few deserving teams based on in-season merit that may be hit by significant issues during the upcoming state series. It means four teams will have to pull out of event commitments at the last minute, but it feels like a sacrifice many will consider worth making--especially considering the unusual circumstances. 3. The vote-in pool for the April wildcard selection in each class will be expanded to consider certain covid-affected teams. Any team affected by covid that does not earn enough points to qualify for the voting process will be given a chance to present evidence based on a) individuals' in-season head-to-head wins or b) individuals' past season accomplishments that demonstrates they would have earned a qualifying score within 5 points of the first two available vote-in candidates. With this specific level of evidence, those covid-affected teams will be considered in the voting process in April for the next-to-last wildcard spot. Rationale: Numerous schools that are clear contenders for spots are already being impacted significantly at sectional. Sadly, we imagine there will be others in the coming rounds. If results-based evidence for wrestlers who missed part or all of the state series because of covid can be presented, we want those kids' schools to be considered. 4. All schools in the state will be considered for the final spot in the event at the time of the December 2021 vote, regardless of their qualification score this season. Rationale: This gives one final "catch-all" for recognizing one deserving team, previously uninvited because of covid or other issues, that should be in the event. With all that's happening surrounding this current season and the impact on next season, we imagine ADs and tournament directors will be flexible and understanding for 4 of the 300 schools in the state to make a last-minute change to their schedule. If it is received well by coaches and ADs, this procedure for last-minute bids for one school per class may continue beyond next year as well. Finally...one more clarification that Y2 reminded me of that's different for this "covid" year specifically: For classification purposes, we want the size of each class to resemble what it will be in normal years going forward. To ensure this, instead of maintaining a hard line of 7+ wrestlers needed to be included in classification, we will most likely include some teams with less than 7 wrestlers. The process for this year only: --Count the number of teams at each participant level breaking point (7+, 6+, etc.) --Include all teams at the lowest breaking point that would not count more teams than 2020. (Example: All teams with at least 6 sectional wrestlers totals less than 2020. Including teams with 5 wrestlers is more than 2020. This is our classification inclusion breaking point and we include the teams with 6 or more.) --Classify according to school size following 2020 parameters for the four classes. --Any team not included in classification that had very significant covid issues that puts them in position to apply for vote-in consideration will simply be added to the class in which their enrollment fits--even though they won't have been part of the original count. (In the very unusual instance that a team is not originally classified and has an enrollment exactly between two classes, they will be in the lower enrollment class.)
  17. Add FW SS #3 Reumler apparently out. A JV was in at 132 for Northridge.
  18. There are a few situations like this where there are less than 8 kids between the two sectionals at the lower weights, so all are already qualified for regional after weigh-in and 1 or 2 will earn semi-state berths too this weekend. Every sectional participant in 7 weights at East Chicago and 6 weights at Shenandoah are automatically into regional.
  19. Just looked and, predictably, there are only four 106s there either. Basically, they'll have a little 4-way battle for semi-state berths this weekend. Semi-final winners are into semi-state and conso winner is too! All 4 guys are having nice seasons so they or Kendra will deserve their spots at semi-state, but it's all so bizarre nonetheless.
  20. Looks like a pretty clear path for her!!
  21. Normally first choice wrestlers are entered during seeding meetings if there's any chance they'll wrestle. They are then taken out or replaced in the bracket at whatever point their absence is sure.
  22. Click on this search and a bunch of Y2's past posts will be included in the results: https://indianamat.com/index.php?/search/&q=forfeit data&quick=1&search_and_or=and
  23. I figured it out. It's the teams on lines 78-83 that have "zero" forfeits but aren't actually in the state series. That makes sense. It then brings the total number of teams to 309--which is what is on the IHSAA list.
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