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I will tell you that we had class wrestling in South Carolina. Classes in of themselves do not increase participation and the state championship finals have 4 mats going at once, which blows. Single class makes the state tournament an event for kids, spectators, and college coaches alike. And like I said with wrestlebacks, the NCAA tournament blood round isn't any less exciting due to wrestlebacks. Anyone remember nick Lee losing his first match and placing 3rd? There would be those moments in our tournament and they would be talked about just as much as who wins.

7 hours ago, Galagore said:

 

Do you think our tournament would still be as exciting with wrestlebacks?

Does wrestlebacks make the NCAA tournament any less exciting? The blood round at the NCAA tournament is still wildly exciting even with it being in the consolation bracket

2 hours ago, Galagore said:

We could get a lot further in this conversation if we could have an actual real-time conversation with spoken words...I totally understand what many of you are saying about the fairness of wrestlebacks and the true goal of the tournament being who is the best.

 

However, how do wrestlebacks help this goal? If someone is an eventual champ, why would they get knocked out early in the tournament?

 

People also do not want a classed tournament due to all of the excitement around a single-class tournament. Wrestlebacks would take a lot of the edge off of that excitement if we didn't have so much riding on one round, one match.

 

Again - I love the ticket round. Love Friday night. Love the semi-finals. Heck, I even like that stupid spotlight, if I am being totally honest. It just doesn't seem right to defend a system on the grounds that I like watching it.

The goal is to get as close to the 16 best kids in the bracket at states. And we aren't talking about the evenutal champ losing, we are talking about making it to the show and having a chance. Wrestlebacks help with that goal. Also, there's still a ticket round. It's called the semis and consi semis. It just changes when the ticket round occurs. I think its ridiculous to lose your first match at states and get booted. Some of those kids are players in a wrestleback system. Once again, the goal should be to get the best 8 kids on the podium. But I LOVE the single class system and the environment it creates at the site.

14 hours ago, Cameron10483 said:

Of course Penn is up there. They took like 7 transfers in this year!

You know that sometimes kids move because their parents change jobs right? How about ya stop painting with broad brush. Also, private schools compete in the same leagues as public schools, open enrollment should be an unquestioned thing anyways with that in place.

I think there should be true wrestlebacks to third at every qualifying tournament. However, the single class tournament is 1) a gigantic money draw for the IHSAA 2) one of the greatest experiences in high school sports and 3) you know you're the dude when its over. Classed wrestling will destroy the Indiana state tournament. But there should be wreslebacks.

I think 7 for Penn sounds about right, I think 8 is possible with an upset in one of the ticket rounds. I'm a Penn guy, but I try to be realistic and do some research. I'm not gonna say which 7 though.

What i mean is that if they incorporate both options, which they very well could, its a win. For example, if they leave track and flo mostly seperate, you're good. Also, most high school wrestling on flo doesn't require a sub to watch. 

33 minutes ago, SWINfan said:

This sucks!   HOPEFULLY the people at Flo have done their homework and part of the reason for buying TW is they know the bracketing and dashboard is better.  The main things TW was better at was:

1. Brackets

2. Dashboard and match scoring integration

3. Wrestler profiles & histories

4. Not requiring an annual subscription to watch a handful of matches a year.  

 

That said, technology mergers take time.  I doubt you'll see much change at all for awhile.  I'd be shocked if anything changes by the end of out State Tournament.

However, if flo includes track in its subscription, essentially you could watch any wrestling taking place on planet earth at any time and not paying 20 bucks a tournament. Could be a good thing honestly. 

106: Bennett

113: Miller

120: Montelongo

126: Vargo

132: Harper

138: Sinko

145: Powell

152: Norton

160: Steenbeke

170: Eastin

182: Timmerman

195: Grange

220: Kendall

285: Donati

That's what I got. 

Both the high school my son left in SC and Penn's AD signed off on my son's transfer. The IHSAA came back with an initial ruling of limited eligibility. So everything that was just said about if the ADs just sign it, the IHSAA doesn't look at it, is 100% incorrect. 

Most definitely need wrestlebacks at all 4 levels 

While I don't agree with any of this situation. My son is that "South Carolina" kid. I did everything right. It took until Dec 23rd for him to get eligible. Sorry for moving my family back to where I grew up because I'm retiring from military service. I don't agree with what happened to Christian, but keep my son out of your grievances.