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That sucks to hear. Awful way to end a career
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What happen with maiden from new castle?
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Joe you are the freaking man. Thank you for giving this board some sort of normalcy and providing realistic solutions instead of throwing out ridiculous solutions. Those throwing out “outside of the box solutions” sound like trump suggesting injecting Clorox. Get real people. Realize that just a couple of years ago we got to wrestle our state finals and basketball got theirs canceled. Be grateful. Also be grateful for the nba all star game because it will provide insane amounts of outside revenue for Indiana as a whole.
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Any idea when a final answer may be announced?
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Brenton Russell
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Brenton Russell
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I still remember this. I think I had Howe the next round… let’s just say the match was pretty quick.
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As It Stands With All Things Considered, Is…?
Gasman replied to blueandgold's topic in High School Wrestling
https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/5066085-remember-that-time-that-andrew-howe-beat-kyle-dake as far as “being from here” that could mean different things to different people. I just mentioned it because the definition was getting wider with the mention of Gable and Jenkins. -
As It Stands With All Things Considered, Is…?
Gasman replied to blueandgold's topic in High School Wrestling
If you truly want to talk anyone from Indiana then it’s clearly Bruce Baumgardener. Dude is like Larry Bird coming from Indiana state!!! He is the most legendary wrestler to wrestle in Indiana. I would say Micic isn’t even best to come out of his high school, not a knock at all towards him, just speaks to the legends coming out of HC. -
As It Stands With All Things Considered, Is…?
Gasman replied to blueandgold's topic in High School Wrestling
Howe did he do at the Olympics?? Because Howe… although he didn’t make it, also lost in OT to several gold medalists. If Howe could claim serbian or Canadian or any other country and make it to the Olympics he would have medaled. -
Awesome thanks I always forget to check flo.
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Is there anywhere to find the results of this tourney? I didn’t see it on here or track.
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Jason Rooney
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I saw 160# Rooney from Westfield pinned # 15 huckaby from Perry in 30 seconds. How did that match play out didn’t see any updates on scoring on track?
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How many guys have taken 4th at SS then go on to wrestle for the championship the following weekend? I know it’s rare but I’m curious how rare it is. edit- how about if we remove the med forfeit criteria and only count the guys who actually wrestled and lost both matches in semi state, then came back to win or take second in state the following week.
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Jason would be the one guy I would say is on Howes level. Maybe a slight advantage to Howe for better college career and international career.
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I think this speaks to my argument more for Howe- when he took second there were 5 state champs in his weight. When he won his sophomore year he beat a state champ going for a repeat championship.
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Ha cool okay I fixed it to what it should have said. like I have said before- for Howe- winning the way he won, only loss coming to Humphrey, hands down to me makes him the best of all time. Full disclosure I have only been around Indiana high school wrestling since 1995 so I don’t know how Howe would stack up against Ellis but since 1995 I think Howe is the clear leader, especially when you factor in college and post high school stats. Howe took David Taylor and Burroughs all the way to the final seconds, Howe arguably would have medaled at the Olympics if it were not for Burroughs being in his weight. The way I look at multiple state championships is this- you win 4 - obviously your the best of the best elite- but if you win all of those matches in overtime then your elite but you’re a takedown away from the competition/the second best guy that year. There was everyone else, then a very large gap, then Howe. Another way to look at it- if youre a college coach and you are recruiting seniors and a 4x state champ wins in overtime against a 1x state runner up and you recruit the guy who loses in overtime for your team do you feel like there is a large gap in quality between your runner up and the 4x champ? Demarcus Spencer (a one time runner up) places ahead of Josh Harper 3x champ his senior year- who do you want on your dual team/ who do you think is the better guy at that time?
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Did Mauer ever dominate the field though? Was there ever a clear difference that he was on a different level? If so please give examples ha good point- I’m saying for comparison sake- give examples where he would be ranked higher than Howe- he won in overtime twice, and by decision twice in his championship matches. At the same time, Howe loses once in his career to a 3x champ (5-1) - mind you there were a total of NINE state championship medals between FIVE different state champions (4 future champs in that weight that year) in his weight class his freshman year. To me someone with one loss in the finals his freshman year and someone with no loses but close wins throughout makes Howe ranked higher. It’s the same reason we don’t have discussions that Josh Harper could be in the mix- Harper won close matches and almost was a 4x as well but didn’t dominate the competition.
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Did Mauer ever dominate the field though? Was there ever a clear difference that he was on a different level from Howe or other state champs of his time?
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When you look how dominant Howe was his Junior year vs. Angel in his junior year there clearly is a difference in levels. Angel won by decision in his matches while Howe teched or pinned the field. Howe lost in the finals his freshman year against a 3x champ Humphrey in his senior year by 5 points and was booed for stalling during the match. Howe is the best of all time in Indiana. Stop judging by the number of championships or number of wins and look also at how they won those matches, who they lost to in those matches and also consider the weights that they won these at.
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Need to make the barstool goodell ( Faulkens) clown shirts
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I said in the beginning of the year NC SS is down and wanted to know what happened to it. Many said wait until the wrestling has started… well boys and girls - NC SS isn’t even close this year. 21??? That’s an average of 1.5 placers per weight. EV is averaging 2.6 placers per weight??? Crazy. Y’all just been passed.
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Yes I’m having issues with the NC ss too on my Phone
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Any updates on the status of start times due to the snow?
