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  1. Just think if topics and posts disappeared after a couple weeks here!
  2. Rumor has it that Avon is pulling out of sectional and joining the Big 10! Hate to let the cat out of the bag, but it's too close to sectional to not tell everyone.
  3. I did some numbers for the Carroll sectional last year. Of the top 4 seeds 49 of 56 qualified for regional. The others were 4- 5th seeds, and 3- 6th seeds. The seeds that did not place top 4 were 6- 4th seeds and 1- 3rd seed.
  4. On the topic of most dominant big man, it is much easier to dominate at 215/220 than heavyweight. Heavyweights have such a wide variety of opponents. Think about the short stocky, tall and thick, small and athletic, etc heavyweights that are out there. No other weight has to adjust to such varying body types and skill sets than heavyweight.
  5. Faulkens said at our meeting that the reason they don't have seeding for football, basketball, etc was "look at what happens in wrestling."
  6. So you are basically saying that small school coaches suck and don't put in the time. Is that what I am reading? I definitely don't want to put words into your mouth.
  7. Since 2008 only 22.32% of the state qualifiers have come from the smaller half of the schools. If we'd have two classes you would DEFINITELY see more small schools with wrestlers advance to the state finals. There are currently 52 schools in the bottom half(approximately 155 schools) that have not had a state qualifier since 2008. There are ONLY 11 schools that have had enough qualifiers to average one per year since then. So yes you would see MANY different and new schools represented at the state finals. There is NO FEASIBLE way that those top 11 schools would generated every state qualifier in a classed system.
  8. Harper is probably going to work hard to get this title back. Parent meeting tonight at 6pm.
  9. Oh yes, I have something against him... keep making things up just like the rest of the Avon parents. As usual the Avon parents are the most annoying people on this site.
  10. By JEREMY HINES Thehines7@gmail.com There is an episode of ‘Malcom In the Middle’ where a few teenagers pick on an elderly man and then run away from him. As they run, they taunt the man – knowing they are much younger and faster than he is. The old man is persistent though. He never stops moving forward. Eventually, much to the surprise of the teens, he catches up to them and beats the tar out of them. Delta’s Jacob Gray is a lot like that old man. He’s not slow, by any means, but he is relentless. He’s always pressing forward. Every time an opponent looks up, Gray’s massive 182 pound frame is right in front of them. “Jacob is a meat and potatoes kind of wrestler,” Delta coach Gary Schleissman said. “He’s not fancy. He doesn’t do funk. He’s straight forward and relentless. He sticks to the basics, and he does them very well. He wrestles smart and doesn’t waste any movement. He’s always been that way.” Gray has 141 varsity victories and only 11 losses. As a freshman he lost in the ticket round at semistate. His sophomore year he lost just twice, both in the state finals. He ended up placing sixth that year. Last year Gray went 37-3 and lost Friday night at state. This season Gray is 28-2. Both of his losses came at the hands of the state’s No. 1-ranked 182 pounder, Nathan Walton. The first time the two wrestled Walton won 5-2. Gray narrowed the gap the next time they squared off – losing by just one point, 1-0. “Those losses have made me want to work harder,” Gray said. “You just think of how close the matches have been, and how a takedown, a reversal or something could have changed the outcome.” Gray, who has never been pinned in high school, has made it a point this season to attack more. “I am pressing the action a lot more,” Gray said. “I started noticing how in harder matches I was getting a little fatigued. Now that I’m trying to put up more points, I’m not getting as tired. I feel like it has helped me get in better shape.” One of Gray’s physical attributes that has helped him on the mat is his ridiculous hand strength. “His hand strength is absolutely crazy,” Schleissman said. “When I wrestle around with him in the room, it really hit me how strong his hands were last season. He’d grab a hold of my wrist and – holy crap” Gray is fueled by competing at a school with a rich wrestling history. Delta is fourth on Indiana’s all-time team state championships list with five. The school, located on the outskirts of Muncie, has had 13 individual champions. The list of individual champs include: Tim Klingensmith (1970), Chris Campbell (1981), Don Heintzelman (1981), Greg Gadbury (1981), David Palmer (1981, 1982), John Ginther (1983, 1984), Ron Riggin (1984), David Locke (1984), Craig Campbell (1985), Trent McCormick (1986), Jeff Tuttle (1987), Craig Locke (1990) and Eric Kerkhof (1994, 1996). “I want to be one of those guys you think about when you think of Delta wrestling,” Gray said. “Our coaches, teachers and a lot of people in our community talk about how good we were. All of my friends’ dads talk about the glory days. I see the pictures on the wall every day of all of our state champions, and I know I can be our next one.” Gray got his wrestling start at the Muncie Pal Club. According to coach Schleissman, the Pal Club was a place where “a bunch of rough neck kids would go in and beat the crap out of each other every day.” Bryce Baumgartner, Sage Coy, Luke Schleissman and Gray were a few of the wrestlers that emerged from the Pal Club. Despite his success on the mat, Gray isn’t one to brag on himself. “Jacob is just a great kid,” Schleissman said. “He’s very humble and very quiet. He’s polite and everyone respects him. I have watched him wrestle since he was very young. He’s my go to kid in practice. After this year, I’m really going to miss him.” After high school he plans to wrestle in college, but has not decided where he wants to go or what he wants to study. Right now he’s focusing on getting to the top rung of the podium at Banker’s Life in February. Jacob wants to go out on top – like all senior wrestlers. Click here to view the article
  11. By JEREMY HINES Thehines7@gmail.com There is an episode of ‘Malcom In the Middle’ where a few teenagers pick on an elderly man and then run away from him. As they run, they taunt the man – knowing they are much younger and faster than he is. The old man is persistent though. He never stops moving forward. Eventually, much to the surprise of the teens, he catches up to them and beats the tar out of them. Delta’s Jacob Gray is a lot like that old man. He’s not slow, by any means, but he is relentless. He’s always pressing forward. Every time an opponent looks up, Gray’s massive 182 pound frame is right in front of them. “Jacob is a meat and potatoes kind of wrestler,” Delta coach Gary Schleissman said. “He’s not fancy. He doesn’t do funk. He’s straight forward and relentless. He sticks to the basics, and he does them very well. He wrestles smart and doesn’t waste any movement. He’s always been that way.” Gray has 141 varsity victories and only 11 losses. As a freshman he lost in the ticket round at semistate. His sophomore year he lost just twice, both in the state finals. He ended up placing sixth that year. Last year Gray went 37-3 and lost Friday night at state. This season Gray is 28-2. Both of his losses came at the hands of the state’s No. 1-ranked 182 pounder, Nathan Walton. The first time the two wrestled Walton won 5-2. Gray narrowed the gap the next time they squared off – losing by just one point, 1-0. “Those losses have made me want to work harder,” Gray said. “You just think of how close the matches have been, and how a takedown, a reversal or something could have changed the outcome.” Gray, who has never been pinned in high school, has made it a point this season to attack more. “I am pressing the action a lot more,” Gray said. “I started noticing how in harder matches I was getting a little fatigued. Now that I’m trying to put up more points, I’m not getting as tired. I feel like it has helped me get in better shape.” One of Gray’s physical attributes that has helped him on the mat is his ridiculous hand strength. “His hand strength is absolutely crazy,” Schleissman said. “When I wrestle around with him in the room, it really hit me how strong his hands were last season. He’d grab a hold of my wrist and – holy crap” Gray is fueled by competing at a school with a rich wrestling history. Delta is fourth on Indiana’s all-time team state championships list with five. The school, located on the outskirts of Muncie, has had 13 individual champions. The list of individual champs include: Tim Klingensmith (1970), Chris Campbell (1981), Don Heintzelman (1981), Greg Gadbury (1981), David Palmer (1981, 1982), John Ginther (1983, 1984), Ron Riggin (1984), David Locke (1984), Craig Campbell (1985), Trent McCormick (1986), Jeff Tuttle (1987), Craig Locke (1990) and Eric Kerkhof (1994, 1996). “I want to be one of those guys you think about when you think of Delta wrestling,” Gray said. “Our coaches, teachers and a lot of people in our community talk about how good we were. All of my friends’ dads talk about the glory days. I see the pictures on the wall every day of all of our state champions, and I know I can be our next one.” Gray got his wrestling start at the Muncie Pal Club. According to coach Schleissman, the Pal Club was a place where “a bunch of rough neck kids would go in and beat the crap out of each other every day.” Bryce Baumgartner, Sage Coy, Luke Schleissman and Gray were a few of the wrestlers that emerged from the Pal Club. Despite his success on the mat, Gray isn’t one to brag on himself. “Jacob is just a great kid,” Schleissman said. “He’s very humble and very quiet. He’s polite and everyone respects him. I have watched him wrestle since he was very young. He’s my go to kid in practice. After this year, I’m really going to miss him.” After high school he plans to wrestle in college, but has not decided where he wants to go or what he wants to study. Right now he’s focusing on getting to the top rung of the podium at Banker’s Life in February. Jacob wants to go out on top – like all senior wrestlers.
  12. 2013 Middle School state 1st Place Match: Evan Ellis (Greentown WC) over Gunnar Larson (avon wrestling club) (Dec 6-2) It seems that state when they were both sophomores was the only time Larson has beaten Ellis from the data I have found. That includes about seven total matches. Misleading no one, he said that Gunnar would have been a two time champ without Parris. I showed him that it was no guarantee. It's always Avon vs. the World, keep up that attitude it really does great for the Orioles.
  13. The last two times Evan and Gunnar wrestled Evan won. Odd you think?
  14. So he's healthy enough to wrestle Cohlton Schultz to a 3-2 match, but not healthy enough to beat Evan Ellis?
  15. From spring of 2016 220 - Evan Ellis (Indiana Gorillas) over Gunnar Larson (Indiana Blue) Dec 7-3 From spring of 2015 1st Place Match: Evan Ellis (Greentown Wrestling Club) over Gunnar Larson (Avon Wrestling Club) (Dec 3-1)
  16. Kobe only got released to wrestle live less than a month ago and required surgery on at least one shoulder. Six months is way different than 30 days.
  17. Been at it for 15 years....I ain't no spring chicken!
  18. Just an FYI, Kobe Woods was injured last year. He had shoulder surgery this spring/summer. I would have loved to see him at 100% last year in the state finals.
  19. I promise you six Carroll wrestlers won't wrestle below their seed.
  20. Here is the ever popular(really I hate saying that) report of forfeits at sectional. Past forfeits Year FF Schools Avg 2011 617 312 1.98 2012 681 312 2.18 2013 649 312 2.08 2015 740 308 2.40 2016 860 308 2.79 2017 845 310 2.73 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1krfJOL8VwuS33WW30KkI6rtHlL-lhu2QhNUcp4Hw8AM/edit?usp=sharing It looks like for the first time in a while forfeits are down, hopefully this trend continues.
  21. With our current system there is no guarantee that placing 2nd will get you a better chance at going to state.
  22. Did anyone notice at 220 that a kid that is 8-28 got seeded above someone that is 27-10? And on top of that the two best are on the same side now. There will be a few #2's out of the other sectional that do not like what they see Saturday afternoon.
  23. It's relevant when a kid comes in with no head to heads, no common opponents, and a slightly better record.
  24. 1. Head to head 2. Record versus common opponents 3. Semi-State quarter-finalist 4. Winning percentage Usually winning percentage is the first one we use when starting out.
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