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Chad Welch lost on a questionable call. He shook hands and walked off the mat like a gentleman. That is why he will have an excellant chance to win state next year. I am sure he will not make excuses and he will work harder and not leave it up to a 50/50 call. Both Welch brothers have improved over the years and always been respectful of coaches, opponents, officials, etc.

Johnson-Jones was strong, quick, in shape, and very technically sound. The most underated wrestler I have witnessed at state. i apologize to my buddy for telling him that his run was over against Atwood. This guy is the whole package.

I guess to get my final say in. MD is a class program that should lose with class as they won with class. Go back to last year or this year when Castle lost to MD and see if there were any negative comments. When you get beat you don't blame it on the guys on the rail like last year, you don't start talking about a rumor of spitting, and you don't blame 6 losses in a row on 6 different refs that did not call stalling. How can you keep wanting a stalling call to bail you out of six losses. There have been 6 refs in a row not give you the call. In wrestling you have to earn your points. The great thing about wrestling, is there are no excuses. Of all programs to use these smear tactics and diversions, MD would have been the last to tarnish this sport where you step up and admit you lost. No talking about fans to change the subject from wrestling, no acting like you are injured to gain an advantage, and no blaming officials. I am sure you two are about the only one's from MD that use these tactics. Too many great past champions to have this run deep. Please stay positive, you will be back on top soon. Very talented and young team at MD. Just show respect for when you lose and you will get respect when you win. Old coach once said: Excuses are for losers

How good has this junior been since finishing 5th at 135 last year as a sophomore? Wrestled for team Indiana in PA. Undefeated on the season. Has beat John Sims MD that is ranked 26 nationaly 4 times in a row this season. Has not allowed Sims who finished 6th as a freshman and 4th as a soph to score a point in three of those matches.

I hope you could not find anyone to take your money when you bet on Quincy to beat Welch.

#2 Doug Welch 145 I added him, assuming that he has beat him at some time at home or in practice.

Chad Welch Junior number two ranked 152. How good has he been since State last year when he lost with some broken bones in his hand: Undefeated this year- Beat Tonte #3 19-10 Team State 2009 Sims #3 145 3-0 Stahl #4 4-3 Ritchie #6 9-5 Lynde #7 4-2 Team State 2009 Parrish #10 Pin Wathan #11 16-0 Juliano #12 17-3 Marshal #15 Tech Fall

Maligned for best poster on the board.

103-Hall 112-Khun 119-Fisher 125-Raley 130-Martin 135-Rueger 140-Bealmer 145-Welch 152-Welch 160-Reese 171-Stein 189-Rosebrock 215-Froehlich 285-Daughtery

Who did Stahl lose to besides Tonte and Welch?

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Influence of Wrestling in the NFL 10 Hall of Fame Football Players 43 Multiple Pro-Bowlers 60 Individual State Championships 13 NCAA Wrestling Championships 3 Heisman Trophy Winners Wrestled 14 1st Round Draft Picks Wrestled 23 RB?s / 20 LB?s / 2 QB?s / 66 Lineman / 6 DB?s / 1 K / 54 NP The Coaches Perspective ?I draft wrestlers because they are tough, I have never had a problem with a wrestler.? - Joe Gibbs, Hall of fame Football Coach "I would have all of my Offensive Lineman wrestle if I could."- John Madden, Hall of Fame Football Coach ?I love wrestlers, they are tough and they make great football players.? Mike Stoops, National Championship Football Coach - University of Oklahoma. ?Wrestlers make coaching football easy, they have balance, coordination, and as a coaching staff we know they?re tough.? - Tom Osborne - College Hall of Fame Football Coach - University of Nebraska

Caleb Schmitt match was awesome for me as well. Watched it from their family's suite. He had a great career, but tough luck in the tournament every year. Two older brothers that wrestled were in there and to see the family get to experience this was unbelievable. We met the Zimmer family afterward and they were great people. I remember that he beat a sophomore Sandefur earlier in the day and said that he would win a state championship. Caleb had never placed at State and won the championship.

Freshman wrestler quote when I was in school. He had looked at the brackets and come back and asked me "What school does bye wrestle for"

Not that what happened matters this year, but thought people might find it interesting to see the results from last year: Evansville Semi State Results ? on: February 14, 2009, 09:53:29 PM ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 103 lbs. First Name, Last Name Grade W-L Rec. School 1. Jacob Boomsma 10 36-2 Bloomington South 2. Brian Kuhn 11 50-2 Evansville Reitz 3. Dusty Kief 10 40-5 Franklin Community 4. Dylan Hall 11 40-6 Evansville Harrison 5. Trevor Appell 9 23-8 Evansville Mater Dei 6. Steven Reiker 10 38-8 Columbus East 112 lbs. First Name, Last Name Grade W-L Rec. School 1. Derek Fisher 11 36-3 Martinsville 2. Francisco Colon 12 39-4 Columbus North 3. Trevor Moody 9 41-6 Evansville Reitz 4. Cody Kendle 10 33-9 Pike Central 5. Alex Griesemer 10 37-5 Princeton Community 6. Blaine Hall 11 22-3 Avon 119 lbs. First Name, Last Name Grade W-L Rec. School 1. Alex Johns 12 49-1 Evansville Reitz 2. Ethan Raley 10 31-1 Indian Creek 3. Jeff Stotridge 11 40-2 Charlestown 4. Justin Fuller 11 28-13 Brownsburg 5. Preston Wilson 10 26-14 Whiteland 6. Quinn Schroeder 10 31-9 Evansville Mater Dei 125 lbs. First Name, Last Name Grade W-L Rec. School 1. Tim Martin 11 42-6 New Albany 2. Cole VanHorn 10 36-8 Franklin Community 3. Blake Rueger 9 42-7 Evansville Reitz 4. Rryan Hutchinson 12 22-5 Corydon Central 5. Zach Henderson 10 31-6 Evansville Mater Dei 6. Eddie Durran 12 37-2 Charlestown 130 lbs. First Name, Last Name Grade W-L Rec. School 1. Quincy Richey 9 34-1 Brown County 2. Andrew Seitz 12 17-1 Castle 3. Travis Girten 12 42-4 North Posey 4. Brannigan Barlow 11 40-6 Bloomington South 5. Jacob Purtlebaugh 12 23-5 Martinsville 6. Omar Siguero 12 32-5 Providence 135 lbs. First Name, Last Name Grade W-L Rec. School 1. Mitchell Richey 12 40-0 Brown County 2. Zach DeHaven 12 39-6 Evansville Memorial 3. Doug Welch 10 42-3 Castle 4. Nick Smith 12 38-6 Franklin Community 5. Adam Weinzapfel 10 21-11 Evansville Mater Dei 6. Jeremy Salyers 11 35-7 Edgewood 140 lbs. First Name, Last Name Grade W-L Rec. School 1. John Sims 10 36-1 Evansville Mater Dei 2. Jacob Milenbaugh 12 42-4 Columbus North 3. Chad Welch 10 40-5 Castle 4. Luke Armond 12 41-6 Jennings County 5. Zach Wojdyla 12 37-4 Brown County 6. Benjamin Hughes 12 26-11 Providence 145 lbs. First Name, Last Name Grade W-L Rec. School 1. Preston Richard 12 43-2 Castle 2. Zeke Zenthoefer 12 36-5 Evansville Mater Dei 3. Jordan Krulik 12 35-2 Martinsville 4. Phelan Montgomery 10 32-8 Terre Haute South 5. Marcus Wadell 11 37-11 Columbus North 6. Steven Spicer 12 37-3 Edgewood 152 lbs. First Name, Last Name Grade W-L Rec. School 1. Drake Stein 10 45-0 Princeton Community 2. Andrew Pettijohn 12 35-7 Castle 3. Jeff Weiss 11 46-6 Heritage Hills 4. Holden Fudurich 11 35-2 Sullivan 5. Isaiah Alfs 12 21-10 Avon 6. Trey Reese 10 32-4 Indian Creek 160 lbs. First Name, Last Name Grade W-L Rec. School 1. Briar Runyan 12 39-0 Martinsville 2. Dalton Jones 12 35-4 Avon 3. Terry Terrell 11 34-10 Bloomington South 4. Cory Weikel 11 32-15 Castle 5. Bryan Beiswanger 12 39-6 Jennings County 6. Jeremy Steckler 12 27-10 Southridge 171 lbs. First Name, Last Name Grade W-L Rec. School 1. Tanner Wedding 12 36-1 Evansville Memorial 2. Ryan Mann 12 37-8 Castle 3. Shelby Mappes 12 41-3 Center Grove 4. Cole Brandt 11 32-8 Avon 5. John McAndrew 12 37-10 Floyd Central 6. Caleb Browner 11 39-6 Jeffersonville 189 lbs. First Name, Last Name Grade W-L Rec. School 1. Aaron Stevenson 10 42-0 Indian Creek 2. Andrew Leach 12 32-4 Avon 3. Tanner McGowan 12 38-7 Vincennes Lincoln 4. Darren Eades 11 35-8 Bloomington South 5. Cory Kopitzke 11 39-10 Jennings County 6. Ethan Cook 12 32-3 Providence 215 lbs. First Name, Last Name Grade W-L Rec. School 1. Adam Howland 12 33-4 Brownsburg 2. Clay Robison 12 44-1 Castle 3. Jacob Wright 40-7 12 Greencastle 4. Neal Lane 32-10 12 Franklin Community 5. Tyler Tatgenhorst 12 41-7 Jeffersonville 6. Drew Dorsey 12 36-8 Center Grove 285 lbs. First Name, Last Name Grade W-L Rec. School 1. Alex White 12 50-1 Mt. Vernon (Posey) 2. Nate Richey 12 36-4 Brownsburg 3. Jowan Gill 12 47-3 Columbus North 4. Jon Clark 12 30-3 Jeffersonville 5. Hunter Mason 12 35-6 Danville 6. Dan Borkowski 12 31-3 Evansville Memorial

Went back and found this quote from last year. Not sure if it is accurate. At Evansville, there were 8 number ones that went down including an alternate at 171 who beat a number one. Interesting facts to have the first year having four from the regional.

How many 4 seeds made it to state last year in the first year? How many were state placers?

Sponge Bob Square Pants go back and read the part about predictions only. I will ban you from my site like Y2 does.

Since we have been discussing officiating. This had nothing to do with the outcome of the match, but is it possible for a kid to get hurt with 30 seconds or less everytime they are losing? Should they get injury time out? Should the coach not step in and make the wrestler keep wrestling? I posted on the officiating site and they said the answer was that they did not have control over injury timeouts, but if the coach would step in where this was a constant problem to make sure that a wrestler was not creating an unfair advantage by being winded and catching a breather. Does anyone know of a coach that has called out their own wrestler to insure fairness for their opponent? I have witnessed it four times now with one wrestler. Re: Out of shape wrestler acting hurt to get breath? ? Reply #1 on: January 24, 2010, 10:55:18 AM ? Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Answer from officials last time this happened when I questioned it on that page: That would be filed under coaching ethics. A ref must grant injury time to a wrestler if he asks for it.

Not sure if you were the official or not. People around me were arguing about whether you were the official. Do not know if it was a bad call or not. Watching the match, it looked like an obvious escape and there were some coaches questioning the call. I was curious if it was a rule I did not understand or the official did not see the escape. Maybe he never got his head all the way out? Both wrestlers were on their feet and Mann thought he had the escape and was not trying to seperate. He looked stunned to not get the escape and so did the coaches and fans. I was wanting clarification on why everyone was surprised. The match would have been tied and could have went either way.

Back to the wrestling action. Can someone tell me why the Mann kid from Castle did not get the escape point in OT when both wrestlers were in the up position? This happened in the quarter finals. Is there a rule that I missed? Did the referee miss the call? Was Goebel really the referee of this match? Anyone that heard an explanation and could help clear up the confusion of everyone in my section watching would be appreciated.

This thread is for wrestling predictions only. No discussions on weather problems or scales. Give your predictions on each weight class now that the brackets are out.

Jon, I wish I would not have drove to Indy and supported the mighty panther football team this year. Why do you guys hate on us cake eaters when we pull for the panthers after you whip up on us? German chocalate last night for desert.

Thanks for taking the glasses off Jon H. I think you missed 135 though.