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which match was that? The last two matches were Jones/Farmer (ended in a pin), and Schott/Vanover (wasn't even close).
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doesn't that kind of mean that it might have been a bad call? If one school feels it was bad and they got the short end of it, and the other school feels it may not have been right but they'll go with it because they benefited, it would seem it was probably a bad call. I kind of feel like you'd have better luck putting together a formula to try and deal with schools' biases towards refs than you would putting together a peer based rating system.
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Next year's going to be interesting. BB looks like they're graduating one state champ, CG 2 state placers, and CP 3 state champs. I know CG has some battle tested kids in the room that filled in for injuries in/around the weight classes they're graduating, and I have no doubt CP is the same. BB's squad is pretty young, and only figures to get better, even with losing a state champ at heavyweight. It's going to take a ton of work to break into the top 3 next year.
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While this is true, it's also tough to have that with volunteer officials when so many matches/tournaments only have a single official until you get to the finals. The schools/coaches are the only ones that are guaranteed to be watching, and I would think the "bad" rating from one school would be somewhat cancelled by a "good" rating from the other that benefited from a specific call.
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If I marked my brackets right, there are a couple of head to heads between CG and CP that are going to make or break the team race today.
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State Finals Media Guide is now published
rrschott replied to Y2CJ41's topic in High School Wrestling
I didn't realize that no one had taken 12 to state before... -
Sectionals and Regionals that advanced?
rrschott replied to Jayruss's topic in High School Wrestling
This CG team is pretty special, and the coaching staff has these kids dialed in. It's going to be a fun weekend for CG wrestling. -
The crowd cut roughly in half after the ticket round, although evansville as a whole still seemed reasonably well represented all the way through the finals.
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Couple of observations from Evansville. 1. The area this SS covers is HUGE; it's basically the bottom half of the state, so travel is a little bit more of an issue for those who aren't directly involved. 2. The lower bowl was actually pretty full for the ticket round, but cleared out once half the kids were eliminated (likely in part due to the travel time for some of those wrestlers/families to get home). 3. Not pictured is the giant staging area for the wrestlers to get ready, which is where most of the kids/coaches were located for the majority of the day, so none of them are in the stands. 4. The amount of seats in this picture is roughly equal to the size of the entire gym at New Castle; If everyone on the opposite side (which was actually more full than what's pictured because that's where the evansville teams/families were sitting) was squeezed into these seats you'd have a similar crowd. I would agree you probably could have held this semi-state in large high school, but it would have been PACKED for the opening/ticket rounds. I will say that it was certainly a cool atmosphere for the kids, and certainly started to set the stage for the state finals downtown.
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facts. their infrastructure is absolute garbage, and their developers should be embarrassed. The big problem is they have zero incentive to do better; they get paid the same whether their system works or it doesn't.
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High School Weight Class Change 2023-2024?
rrschott replied to sspencer's topic in High School Wrestling
Personally, I'd like to see a 245/250 in place of one of the weights at the lower end of the bracket. There are some really good athletes who steer away from wrestling because they're in that weird space where they're too light for heavyweight, but don't want to cut a ton of weight to make 215. That would also create a pretty obvious path to college wrestling (basically the bottom 3 weights go to 125, top 3 go to heavyweight, with a handful of the 215'ers potentially choosing to drop to 197). -
weird. I got full weekend passes with our presale code. There were a few sections that weren't available, but otherwise the whole process was pretty painless. I do have to say, I like the idea of a presale code for qualifiers; making sure their families get a chance to see their kids in this moment, after all the work they've put in seems like a fair way to go about it.
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What I got from our team mom was that the school got 2 per kid, and the wrestler got an additional 4. I read that as 6 per qualifier, and the codes would be wrestler specific. That presale would continue until Wednesday, at which time the sale would open to the general public.
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Just playing devil's advocate on this one...Leighton and Hosia are both football kids, so your predicate of "didn't practice or wrestle much in the offseason" holds for them as well.
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Adrenaline does wild things to your memory.
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Ditto, but ideally not in a round where you could go home for the year. Get the toughest kid when everything is on the line.
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I've never really understood that philosophy; why would you lose so you can face a kid who just won his last match? If the matchings are all 1-4, 2-3, it would seem to me you want to win what's in front of you so you get to face a kid who's just coming off a loss. But what do I know?
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I guess I was going off of what I'd seen where they pair up 2 regionals through the whole weight class (which certainly seems to be the case this year). So if A is paired with B, then C pairs with D, AC-BD, or AD-BC.
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I mean, there's only 3 possible combinations to start, so it's only 1/27 you get the same draw 3 years in a row. And if it's a formula that starts at 106 and goes up, then you're 1/27 that the entire bracket matches across 3 years. And that's assuming they don't do something like using team points as the determination for who gets matched up at 106 (which would be pretty easy to reverse engineer if someone were intrepid enough to lookup team points and compare them to the bracket) Looking at it a little more, this year just looks alphabetical at 106, then branches out from there (which is admittedly not random at all).
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I'm new to all this, but looking at all the Semi-state brackets, it looks like they just pick a regional to start with, line them up against another regional at 106 and let the placing do its thing within the bracket. Then they move on to 113 and give them a different regional; wash, rinse, repeat up to 285. The only real question is which regional you're going to get paired with at your weight, and I'm guessing they keep quiet about that ahead of time to try and keep the integrity of the regionals in tact (i.e. keep kids from trying to game their placement in regionals to get a more favorable matchup). But like I said, I'm pretty new to this; that's just what I see when I look at the brackets.
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Why wouldn't they come out as soon as regionals were done? There's supposed to be objective seeding criteria, and you know who's going, how they placed, what their records are, etc.; just plug everything into the formula and out pops your brackets. I mean, IHSAA has already posted all the regional results, so why no brackets?
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That might be a wish in one hand... kind of situation. IHSAA does have 4 of the 16 regional results posted though...
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If it's CST, we've still got 20 minutes...not that I'm counting or refreshing TW every 5 minutes or anything...
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I always forget there's corners of the state that are in the right time zone...
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It's 4:34...
