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FINAL New Castle SS Rankings updated 2-8-14
grapple replied to zachpierson's topic in Past Discussions
Question for Zach- In some of your SS rankings/preditions you have more than 4 wrestlers from a Regional. At 106 you have 6 of the top 12 from one regional. 113 - 6 of the top 11 are from NM 120 - 5 of the top 11 from PM 132 - 5 of the top 10 from PM 5 of the top 15 from RI 138 - 6 of the top 9 from PM 5 of the top 15 from NM 145 - 5 of the top 13 from NM and it goes on like this through most all weight classes. Am I correct by saying that each Regional will only have 4 wrestlers at SS? -
After reading all of this, and not being biased towards either team, here is how I look at the situation. Could this have been the reason behind a team championship? Yes. Maybe you did give the other team the maximum points, however, how many points did you get credit for from your wrestler coming back and wrestling to take 3rd place? If you were to take those points away from your team, would you have won? Simply stated, the answer would be, no. So take the points away from your team that your team was awarded for his/her third place finish and then figure team points. Would your team have won? No. Now let's talk about individual wrestlers not a team championship since the IHSAA has made this an individual sport. If your wrestler were injured the entire season, even if he/she were not injured the entire season, you take a chance in every match the possibility of injury. This is wrestling, not checkers. What are you teaching your wrestlers? To take the easiest route in life? To skip out on the hard matches only to go the easiest way? Wrestling is a tough sport, mentally and physically. Were you not worried your wrestler could get injured in the next match or the match after that? There is a very good possibility these two wrestlers could face each other again at regionals. Are you going to inj. def. that match to?
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Your predictions are pretty good, however, I think some of these could go a different direction depending on seeding. For example, at 126, if Loos is seeded 3rd and Boggs 2nd, they will most likely meet in semi's. I don't look for Boggs to come out on top. Boggs does have the win over Loos but the call that won it for him could go a different way this week and I look for Loos to come out with the win. I also believe that some of your predictions are biased, but I would also be biased if predicting. That's why I am not making predictions. Could put a target on the ones I am sure will be a top the podium. There will be some upsets to your predictions, in my opinion, especially from wrestlers that you have not seen wrestle yet. I believe you will say, "what? um, who's he and where'd he come from?" But that's just my opinion and I hope I am right. I usually don't post, but thought I'd throw this out there. In other news.......... What team takes the title? Personally, I think it will come down to Greensburg and Franklin County. Hopefully, they will meet tomorrow evening, weather depending, and that will give us more insight. I have not seen Greensburg wrestle yet, but have studied who they have wrestled and know what each of their wrestlers have done. Tomorrow evening should be a good meet. I think Greensburg has some good wrestlers at weights that Franklin County has inexperience/young and I think Franklin County has good wrestlers where Greensburg is lacking. Could come down to one match for the win. Again, my opinion. We will see, HOPEFULLY
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This call could have gone either way. If a wrestler is cross faced (across the mouth) and his mouth is open, the wrestler that is doing the cross face can push so hard that his arm ends up in the bottom guys mouth and could get teeth marks. I was at the match, seen the whole thing. Did SD's 138 bite FC? Maybe. Did FC shove his arm against SD's mouth as hard as he could while SD mouth was open and got teeth marks which doesn't mean SD bit him? Maybe. I do know that the FC wrestler jumped up holding his arm. However, I also have seen Reggie Miller fall down and have fouls called against his opponents without there being any foul at all. (Sorry to bring up basketball on this but these calls go hand in hand). I have also seen a referee call locking hands when the hands touching don't belong to the same wrestler. So let's just say this, "The next time these two meet, SD will not let FC in the position to cross face and if he does, he knows now to keep his mouth closed tightly. And FC will know that the hard cross face will lose him a point for Unsportsmanlike"
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Notable results for the next rankings update
grapple replied to ontherise219's topic in Past Discussions
Just a little confused here. What weight is Guhl from Cathedral going this year? He is ranked 16th at 195, yet in the NCSS rankings is at 220? He wrestled the Spartan Classic at 195 and was beaten by Hooten from Batesville. Hooten has already beaten Madison's Sandlin this season. Hooten was pinned by Rushville's Hittle earlier in the season and then pinned by Franklin County's Harnishfeger very early in the first period at the Spartan Classic. Harnishfeger then pinned Hittle late in the third. -
What time does wrestling start? 8 or 9?
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New Castle Semi State Rankings Final Rankings
grapple replied to zachpierson's topic in Past Discussions
It will be. I'm picking Harnishfeger. I don't think Howard has the stamina to outlast this Saturday. -
You are correct, however, not much sportsmanship throwing elbows and punches. Will be a good championship this saturday .
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Worst officiating I've ever witnessed in all my yesrs. A rushville boy wsd slammed, went unconsious and the ref let the 30 seconds come off the cloc to end the match. He couldn't even walk off the mat by himself. Same official gave a batesville boy a pt. for running out of bounds. The batesville kid won by that one point.
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Agreed, he is Oldenburgs only hope.
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Not close on some. Here are mine. 106 - Wright, Speaker, Mickley, Lewis 113 - Ely, Butz, Martindale, Speaker 120 - Engleking, Dempler, Walsh, Speaker 126 - Holwager, Noblit, Young, Hill 132 - Herrin, Gilbert, Leeper, Adams 138 - Spray, Reichenba, Chase, Chandler 145 - Wayant, Young, Ruddick, Flynn 152 - Partee, Stillinger,Pifer, Pool 160 - Wilson, Johnson, Young, Dantzler 170 - Fisher, Cheesebrew, Cordova, Sego 182 - Bott, Teague, Black, Ferguson 195 - Sandlin, Neisius, Kline, Cambron 220 - Castetter, Woods, Thomas, Loud 285 - McKee, Wolka, Mount, Hayes Sorry Schueman, I think you have your 220 weight all wrong, you are giving yourself more credit than you deserve. I've seen you wrestle on several occasions and you're just not gonna make it out. Sorry, pal
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He's gotta get through Hittle first.
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Something doesn't make sense here. They have Howards record as losing only 6. Are you telling me these are his ONLY losses? Harnishfeger pinned him twice Centerville pinned him Hittle beat him Two losses at Spartan Classic one to Scholer one to valpo. That's six... he also lost a match last week. Right there is seven. Is batesville trying to pull one over on everyone for better seeding? Guess we'll go back through the results page.