charger.dad
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a tale of 2 kids.....(true) The first kid was (is) a total natural athlete blessed with all the right stuff to be good at any sport he chose. In this case it was football, wrestling and baseball. He was all state in all three and a state runner up in wrestling his senior year. He participated in each sport when the season came around and that was basically it. IMO he could have been a national caliber wrestler had he done it year around, but with doing very little extra he was still within a few points of a state championship. The second kid was just your average boy and average in what sports he did. He was a late bloomer which didn't help as he got in high school. After his freshman year he decided to concentrate just on wrestling and hit some RTC's and open rooms along with some summer tournaments. He definitely showed some improvement his sophmore year. Following his sophmore year he really stepped up the off season work and tournaments and had a great junior year that ended with a Friday night loss at state. That fueled his fire even more and with basically non stop wrestling since the week following state last year he has had a great senior year that he hopes will end on the podium in a couple of weeks. In his case, off season wrestling is why he is where he is at without a doubt. Without it, he would probably just be a mid pack conference finisher. It pays off big time as long as the kid is mentally prepared for the grind of wrestling year around.
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prediction......elkhart memorial puts 10 through to semi state......
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not to sure about anyone getting him off his game......he seems on it right now......you know, peaking at the right time (making some noise).......lol......last time he and woods wrestled i believe he was up on him but let it slip away right at the end......tough kid (and a very nice kid) who would represent the title of state champ very well.....
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Guerra is a beast. I think you have it right. Summers had Paz's number early on in the season but now that has switched. They are 2-2 against each other now but will either one be able to get past Guerra? Gonna be a great day of wrestling in Goshen this Saturday.
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i'm just discussing an issue that i did not fully understand and it appears that many people on here did not understand either......isn't that what this forum is for?......as i said, i thought it was ok to wrap a spot and move on......i know you need to have the proper forms and so on but i did not know that a ref could over rule a doctors note......now obvioulsy there are circumstances where i'm sure they can (and should) if there is a fresh open oozing wound....i just didn't realize they had the final say on what "originally sounded like in this post", a minor spot that had the proper documentation......this has been a very interesting discussion that has brought out many thoughts from many coaches and refs......i am in no way putting down the refs for doing their jobs and never once said anything in that manner......all i said was that they have a tough job that is subjective at times......i likened this subject to the stalling, out of bounds and pins that one ref might call one way and one would call the other because it is in fact the same......the opinion of the ref......i feel the refs we have been around all these years do a good job of getting it right and are always looking out for the safety of our kids........i'm not questioning their authority or their abilities......just asking questions that are about this subject......so to answer your question no i would not want my son wrestling a someone with an open wound and i wouldn't let my son on the mat if he had that condition.....
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never said i was fine with it as a wide open anything goes statement.....i did however say that if a doctors note says it's ok and not contagious, wrap it up anyway as an additional precaution, and let them wrestle........and i always thought that was the acceptable thing to do......once again though you have managed to put words in someones mouth that they did not stay......
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so are you saying that if you have the proper form, filled out properly with the doctors consent that it is no longer contagious, that the ref can't over rule?......earlier discussion seems to say otherwise......
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sounds like at the least you did the correct things as far as getting it treated and having the proper form filled out.....BUT.....that doesn't stop the ref from totally discounting the form you had filled out properly because he didn't have the same "diagnosis" that the doctor did.....sorry about the quotation marks karl.......lol......that to me is where the whole issue is with this......
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this will be a great match i think.......i would think pepple would be the favorite but glogouski looked bad to the bone last weekend.....
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i guess that is the disturbing part of this whole discussion.....there is not any real consistency to this much like stalling calls, out of bounds and pins......every ref calls them a little different.....i wonder if this kid would have been not allowed to wrestle had he been at the same sectional as the one that started this post?
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i was assuming that the person that told me it was for the spot on his face knew what he was talking about......lol
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as a matter of fact yesterday at our sectional a wrestler had a full face mask on.....when he took it off he had (what looked to me like ringworm) a large red spot on his chin......so how is that acceptable if covering skin conditions is not?......i assume the ref deemed it non contagious, he more than likely had the proper form, and it looked dried up?.....tough decision i'm sure to tell a kid his season is over and one i'm sure the refs do everything possible to avoid..... contagious......the key word in this whole discussion.....who is qualified to make that call?
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so as I read through this it sounds as if covering up a spot of ringworm is not allowable?.....i've seen it done a number of times is why i ask......put a bandaid or whatever over it and tape it up tight......i always thought that was an acceptable way of working around this.....
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lose the first and go home......
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so why bother getting a signed doctors note if it holds no weight? obviously this ref totally discounted the doctors diagnosis......
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I would think that at this point in the season, a (per the description) small spot of ringworm would be looked past, especially if there was a doctors note stating what it was and that it was not contagious (and not even ringworm). Cover it up, wrap it well and let them wrestle. I could understand if it were an open wound that was oozing and infected. Can you imagine how many wrestlers yesterday had ringworm that went undetected anyway? How often have you seen wrestlers with areas wrapped that were skin issues and they wrestled? There are many other skin conditions that I could see holding a wrestler out for but this case seems like the ref might have went overboard? Could have been much worse than the poster is saying but if not, it seems extreme. I have seen countless skin issues on kids over the years - some that I thought were beyond what I would think would be let go, but yet the kids wrestled. I'm all for skin disease control and all of that and hate it when my kids get something, but it happens and is probably part of every wrestlers history.
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02/01/2015
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great tournament today, well run, a lot of great matches and a big, loud, rowdy crowd.....congrats to our chargers on another sectional crown....
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Teams advancing high numbers to regional
charger.dad replied to maligned's topic in Past Discussions
Elkhart Memorial - 12 with 5 champs -
he broke it?.......in practice?......man that sucks!
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that'll never happen.....i wouldn't be surprised that in some schools the the money that is made from athletics rivals money made off of tuition.....ticket sales, concessions, clothing, sponsorships, licensing agreements, man i bet at the big schools the take on that is unbelievable.......
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that's great.....we're taking some of our team to the purdue- illinois match on sunday so we will get to see him wrestle hopefully......
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i can't see him missing this.......he's a tuff kid and unless it's a big injury of some type he'll be there......the bad thing now is you can't miss or your season is over.....what happened to kern?
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what happened to him?.......i don't recall him getting hurt last weekend......
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i think you're going to have to explain that one.......
