BigBlue02

Many officials put a lot of time into becoming a better official, including myself. Working pre-season, post season, all levels from elementary state tournaments, middle school tournaments and national tournaments, attend pre-season clinics, certification clinics, rules interpretation clinics. post season, association meetings. We do to better ourselves. Then we wait for coaches ratings, only to see ratings from schools we have not worked for, nor ever seen and some never heard of casting votes. I know one of the 5's is tossed, and one of the 2's is tossed. Averaging a 3.794118. What if two of the schools that never saw one of those officials gave two's cause well that official was on the list and well they "just didn't remember them" If they didn't vote the score would jump to over 3.90. This could move an official up 10-15 spots and could mean the difference between being assigned just a sectional to potentially a semi-state. So with coaches vote being 50% of the score, should it not be an accurate score? I think we would be willing to do the homework to determine every school we see, enter that info onto IHSAA.net. At that point, notification is sent to that school that that particular official had worked that event and at that time a vote could be cast. Could be a 2 or could be a 5. I think, this could also give a good indication of the officials overall ability to work 1. a dual meet, 2. a multi-dual event, a two day event, a individual bracketed tournament. And would also determine favorable or non favorable coaches votes. For instance, if one coach disagrees with a call and sours him for the rest of the day and maybe he gives that official a 2 because of his displeasure, but 5 other coaches at the event give the official a 4, is he worthy of the 2 or the 4's?? and of course vice versa. I definitely don't have all the answers, and I'm sure I have made some bad points but hopefully some good ones too. We have seen in this post the system in front of us. And that is what we have to work with. We will continue to grind, and get better everyday for the betterment of the sport, teams, and individual wrestlers in order to get the best kids to the state level.

Was curious if the power poll would change any if only the top 8 ranked wrestlers were factored instead of the top 16 since only the top 8 place at state and team points at state are not earned until Saturday mornings starting round.

parade of champions at 5:45 tomorrow night.

maybe this has been asked before, why would you rank 8 kids from the same regional in the semistate, only four make it. thats kinda like ranking a 8th grader in the state rankings. he may be bette than the top 16 but doesnt really matter because he aint gonna make it!

How many people noticed this weekend how IMO rude Brooks was, by walking right inbetween the two wrestlers that just finished before him. And sometimes even taking the ankle bands from the wrestler themselves. I saw him do it Friday night, in the Quarters and Semi's and thought it was EXTREMELY DISRESPECTFUL of him to do it after the finals of 106. thoughts?????

if you read the earlier post, Someone picked clark to beat terriquez at 113, That was laughed at by SA parent, then SAparent went on to say the upset of the tournament was that Terriquez beats fuller at 132. I just thought it was funny. And i know you say this because you can not get over that Fuller beat Port. Why is it so impossible. Fuller beat port as a freshman, then as a sophomore he weighed in at 120 and bumped up to 130 to wrestle Port got a concussion in the 1st period, finished the match and lost 7-0. then looses 7-6. then wins 8-6. But somehow it is a fluke, refs fault, timers fault, i've even seen people on other threads blame the person who is suppose to throw the towel in, for Richmonds losses. DONT LEAVE IT IN THE REFS HANDS! Enough said, this is the TEC thread.

You laugh at clark beating Terriquez but, pick the other Terriquez to beat Fuller, LOL. Wyatt couldnt do it as a freshman, Rascon could not do it as a sophomore and Terriquez will not do it when he is a Jr. You have a lot to learn Young Grasshopper! L

I can read just fine but your spelling could use some work. I did say if your son/wrestler has only 3 losses chances of him being seeded 4th are very slim. But really who does Union City wrestle, this topic has been addressed before and I understand that you can only wrestle who is in front of you. But when a contract is up with a certain school plan on changing your schedule. Many teams have left the ECIC and many will argue this tourney is not what it used to be. Pick one of the more talked about tourneys to wrestle in over the holidays, Spartan Classic, Mooresville, Al Smith something of that nature. Just as teams like Yorktown has done. Then common opponent may come into play as well. You dont have to always wrestle a team one on one but wrestle somebody they do. (this is not always the answer but it helps.) Hagerstown, Centerville, Union County, Northeastern, wrestle in the Spartan Classic. Lincoln, wrestles New Castle, Connersville, Westfield, Columbus East, Jay County, Milan, the first weekend of the year. Union County left the Union City five way when Union City refused to send kids out to wrestle phillips his freshman year and go to a dual to wrestle New Castle, South Adams, Alexandria, Fishers, Mason OH instead of wrestling Monroe Central, Randolph Southern, and Daleville (with no disresct to their programs) were not in the best interest of the program and went to North Central to wrestle Cathedral, Hamilton Southeastern, Westfield, and others. I see where Northeastern is Heading west this weekend to wrestle Roncalli, Ben Davis, Warren Central and one other. So Schedules can be changed, When was the last time Union City sought tougher competition? Thats all everyone is saying. You asked me to talk about Union City so i am.

Fuller is a junior has Two conference Championships winning those championships as a freshman by fall over then #1 seed Wyatt ho only had like 3 losses that year, went on to win a Sectional, Regional runner-up (to Campbell) which made him a semi-state qualifier. Loosing to Price of Arsenal Tech. As a sophomore won Conference championship by Beating again #1 seed Rascon of Winchester by Technical Fall in the finals who i think only had like 3 losses on the year. Going on to win another Sectional championship and another regional runner-up to .... again Campbell of New Castle (state runner-up) and falling in the semi-state to Arsenal Tech's Charlie Mcginley. So i think if i had to choose i would go with a top 4 and and say Phillips #1 followed by Fuller, Handley and Babcock in no particular order.

dont know much about Tri and Lincoln, but in Centerville's loss to Connersville they only had one Victory and that was at 220lbs Babcock. That in itself is a standout. I dont want to say that they dont have any others, but from what i heard he is on pace to break the schools takedown record and doing this as an upper weight is another out"standing" accomplishment.

Pretty Bad? Handley beat a state qualifier already this year, AND beat Wyatt last year in the conference finals. By pin i believe. So if you are saying Handley is pretty bad, what does that say about Wyatt? Guess Wyatt can have another shot at him at the ECIC. But I would imagine the result will be the same as the last two. No guarantees but just a guess.

where is Charlie McGinley? Kid only had 2 losses i think last year and lost in the Ticket round to Farrell who placed at state. Just wondering.