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  1. NickS
    Why would someone do that? I'm never confrontational or argumentative... :
  2. NickS
    Forgot about Macke. Usually, I just dismiss anyone that wrestled 103... I'M KIDDING!!! Alright so Macke, then Baker in recent history anyway.
  3. NickS
    This doesn't answer your question. But when I think of the most accomplished wrestler to never win state (not even getting to the finals) was Randy Baker. 3rd, 3rd, 6th, and 7th. But Taylor March would definitely unseat Baker this year, for my money. 2nd, 2nd, 3rd,???. Don't take this as me rooting against him because I never would do that. Just saying...
  4. NickS
    Well I never did say that the IHSAA could do it. Just that in theory, it sounds good. It wouldn't really be ran differently, just need some re-aligning.
  5. NickS
    There was an idea I was kicking around at the other "class" thread. Break up the schools into classes A & AA, like you would for a standard class system. Here's the difference, instead of each class having its separate state tournament. Class A would have 2 Semi-States (with the Sectionals and Regionals feeding into each), likewise with Class AA. Then when you get to State, bring the classes together. In the 1st 2 rounds, A semi-states would be matched up against eachother, likewise with AA. This would be similar to like how semi-states match up in each weight class in the 1st round right now. When you get to the semi-finals, A kid will be matched up against a AA kid. I think this is the best of both worlds. The small schools would be guaranteed half of the state qualifiers, placers, and semi-final spots that the class supporters want. But we still get to keep the one champion, that the single-class supporters like. You can do the same thing for the Team Series. Separate each until the semi-finals of Team State, then bring them together.
  6. NickS
    Thank you, thank you. Too bad it's only worth just one.
  7. NickS
    I have more faith in the BCS voters. ;D
  8. NickS
    Hey, I'm trying to screw the big schools in favor of the little guys. I thought you would be all over that. ;D
  9. NickS
    What I mean by having another week of wrestling is... under the current system, a kid could get eliminated at semi-state or regionals. But under a classed system, he would advance to state. So he would get extra week(s) of wrestling. In reality, it's not that the series would last longer. It's that the small school kid would get to wrestle longer.
  10. NickS
    I'd be much more inclined to agree with you on giving kids more exposure if it wasn't for the fact that there is a 1) regular season and 2) an off-season. Kids have 4 years, not including middle school and elementary, to build their resumes for college scouts. So there is plenty of time and matches that can give wrestlers the exposure they need. You think that one or maybe two extra weeks of wrestling, which a class system is going to give smaller school kids, is going to have that much of an effect? I'm really not a class-hater, honestly. My belief is if it doesn't make you better, why move to a class system. I'm all for trying to keeping the system fresh. So what's your thoughts on my idea a few pages back. Breaking up the semi-states into 2 big schools and 2 small schools? You'd have half the state placers and semi-finalists guaranteed to small schools. Granted, the state champion ratio will probably be the same. But the exposure is definitely up at the state level compared to currently. You could do something similar in the Team Series.
  11. NickS
    I don't know how Indiana and New York actually compare, so I won't. I would rank Indiana at around 15, give or take. So that means we're better than 30, maybe 35 states (most of which are obviously classed). I think awood has made a good point with the travel restrictions we have. All the stronger states can wrestle anywhere they want, thus find the best competition anywhere and everywhere. However, we're stuck within 300 miles of our own borders. We can't even go to the Ironman because schools from all across the country wrestle at it. How juvenile are these travel restrictions?
  12. NickS
    Yeah you're right, it is a two way street though. Too bad no one can explain to me why so many classed states are worse than us.
  13. NickS
    Forget just us, what is the top 5 doing that pretty much the rest of the country is not doing? What about all those other states that have a class system that are behind us? Why aren't they better than us?
  14. NickS
    You can be active without the intention to score in the neutral position as well. The difference is, it's more likely to be perceived as stalling.
  15. NickS
    When you're on top and you're looking to just hold on and not score, it is stalling. What's it called when I'm neutral and blocking off my opponents shot attempts but am not looking to score myself? It's stalling. How this different from me riding someone out to keep them from scoring, but am not looking to score myself necessarily?
  16. NickS
    I've put together the state-by-state results at Fargo Junior Nationals for the past 5 years. Here's how they ranked top to bottom with points accrued. 1. Iowa 223 2. New Jersey 214 3. Pennsylvania 212 4. Illinois 200 5. Ohio 197 6. Missouri 173 7. Minnesota 150 8. California 146 9. Oklahoma 97 10. Oregon 86 11. Indiana 76 <<<--------- 12. New York 75 13. Michigan 70 14. Colorado 68 15. Idaho 64 16. Washington 64 17. Florida 63 18. Utah 59 19. Kansas 58 20. Delaware 52 21. Virginia 48 22. Georgia 34 23. Arizona 33 24. Texas 32 25. Wisconsin 32 26. North Carolina 27 27. North Dakota 20 28. Massachusetts 17 29. Maryland 15 30. Montana 15 31. Connecticut 13 32. Puerto Rico 11 33. Nebraska 10 34. Alaska 9 35. South Dakota 9 36. Alabama 7 37. West Virginia 7 38. New Mexico 6 39. Tennessee 3 40. Hawaii 2 41. Rhode Island 2 42. Louisiana 1 These don't even include the states that failed to produce an all-american. Indiana ranks behind just 10 states, while ahead of 37 (?) other states that have wrestling. So how's a class system the answer when we're ahead more classed states than what we're behind?
  17. NickS
    There are only 13 states that have more top 100 recruits than Indiana. 6 States have the same number of top 100 recruits. So that means there are 27 (2 states don't have wrestling I think right?) that are behind Indiana. Pretty solid for a single-class state. You think OH, PA, NJ, have more college wrestlers is because they happen to reward more state champions? No, the answer has to do with the fact that their just better than us. Ohio doesn't get more recruits because they reward more champions. It's because they have more kids that do better than every other state on the national level.
  18. NickS
    With all the data that I've seen, it's a hit and miss. Sure Triton and Oregon-Davis may have renewed interest, but I'm sure there are big schools that have lost interest since the class inception.
  19. NickS
    Uh yeah, the goal should be about improving the wrestling product. A class system doesn't do that. Like what pin2win1 said, life's not fair. So why is there so much inclination to make sports so? How do you know it won't improve the product? I would argue that it would spur a renewed interest in many small schools. Much like class basketball has done at Triton, Oregon-Davis, and countless other small community schools that have had deep runs and been able to compete in as fair a system as possible for a state title. If interest increased because of class, then the product should improve. With all the data that I've seen, it's a hit and miss. Sure Triton and Oregon-Davis may have renewed interest, but I'm sure there are big schools that have lost interest since the class inception.
  20. NickS
    The message should be, it's the journey that's important not the destination. Win or lose, what do you get out of wrestling? How much stronger of a person does it make you? What have you learned? This is what the message is, not wins and losses.
  21. NickS
    Uh yeah, the goal should be about improving the wrestling product. A class system doesn't do that. Like what pin2win1 said, life's not fair. So why is there so much inclination to make sports so?
  22. NickS
    Again, what is the goal of a class system? Is it so that the "little" guys can feel good about themselves? Frankly, this is what the main argument for it is boiling down to. Sorry, but this is the wrong reason to implement such a system.
  23. NickS
    I always thought that a state moved to a class system because it was more profitable, but I could be wrong.
  24. NickS
    So Indiana is at around 5% and those other states are between 9-13%. So what does this mean really? You'r right, it wouldn't kill wrestling. In fact, it wouldn't do anything at all. Our wrestling product would be exactly the same right now under a class system, as it is with the current system. So if it's not going to make the product better, why change it? An idea that I've just kicked around, instead of moving to a 2-class system. Re-align the Semi-States (with the Sectionals and Regionals under them) so that you'd have 2 big school Semi-States and 2 small school Semi-States. Organize the State Finals brackets so that in the first 2 rounds that big school kids wrestle big school and vice-versa with the small schools. Then when you get to the semi-finals, have big school vs. small school. The small schools would have half of the semi-final matches and placements guaranteed. I'll give you an idea what the State Finals bracket would look like... SS - Small School BS - Big School SS 1a SS 4b SS 2b SS 3a BS 1a BS 4b BS 2b BS 3a SS 1b SS 4a SS 2a SS 3b BS 1b BS 4a BS 2a BS 3b Just brainstorming here, so I'm sure some kinks can be worked out.
  25. NickS
    So how does going to a class system limit this hypothetical team from having 5 or 6 forfeits? Yeah, but I would think that beating someone "under the lights" is a bigger sense of accomplishment than beating them in December. Would you rather beat a strong opponent at State or at some meet in December? Not that having both is out of the question, but just saying if you had to chose one. So your real reason for having a class system is so that the small school kids can stand atop a podium and call themselves state champions? Sorry, but that's the wrong reason to have a class system.
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