RankingsGuy

I have a job to do as RankingsGuy, plain and simple.. my job is to collect as much information as possible to make the rankings as accurate as possible. When someone undermines my ability to do my job, I take it very seriously. If you want to email me privately, thats one thing, but to altogether deny us information makes absolutely no sense to me. People complain when the rankings are not as accurate as possible, yet we have some coaches who do whatever they can to make sure their kid stays out of the public eye. You can't have it both ways. Wrestling is a sport that already does not get enough publicity. The rankings that I publish on this website are then published in newspapers and publications throughout the state, and I take great pride in the fact that they are one of the finest high school rankings in the entire country. Wrestling grows through positive publicity, I am a firm believer in that. If someone who is a casual wrestling fan reads in the paper that his local high school has a kid ranked in the state, maybe he takes his son to go watch a match, and maybe that little kid grows up to be the next Andrew Howe. For a coach to publically attempt to undermine my ability to do my job is something that I will get angry about every single time, and something I will make no apologies for. As Y2 said, the 1980's culture of "lets hide my lineup because it gives us the best chance to win" needs to be left in the past if wrestling is to succeed. This is why I am a firm believer that high school coaches need to be former college wrestlers who know what it takes to have success at the high school level and to promote the sport. This was why I noted the correlation between a regional qualifier high school coach and a very poor mindset when it comes to promoting wrestling.

If he always does things right and our state needs more coaches like him, then wrestling in Indiana is truly in need of a major overhaul, as his senior season came to an end in the first round of the regionals at 103 pounds :

I agree. Coaches like Hunter Stevens are a joke and anyone who truly wants to see the sport of wrestling succeed in the state of Indiana should try to get their wrestlers as much publicity as possible. It is people like Hunter Stevens who feel that their lineup should be as secretive as the nuclear launch codes that are holding wrestling back in our state.

Does anyone know what Delphi will do at 160/171? Is Tanner Lynde going to drop to 60 and Rummel going to move up to 71? Also, is Goldman from Bloomington North going to stay at 215 or will he drop to 189?

comments, questions, concerns welcome as always. please post relevant info here or email me at rankingsguy@hotmail.com

Also, what weight is Roy Whetstine of Evansville Memorial wrestling this season?

Can I get the full name and grade for Appel of Reitz

anyone have scores from Boston/Cottey, Gregory/Bova, Rattay/Van Horn, Rattay/Dodson, Johnson/Spencer, Bowman/Spencer, Lykins/Cottey, and Lykins/Boston?

Look like Purdue is kicking themselves for the Cashe redshirt.. You sit a perfectly healthy All-American for a year and his replacement goes 0-2 barbecue at Vegas? Doesn't make sense to me..

Jensen has not quit, he will be wrestling soon per his head coach.

was the kirk johnson fall over spencer hays?

did johnson of perry pin spencer hays or the zachary hays?

hey everyone, the individual rankings have been updated. please post here with questions, comments, etc. or email me any relevant info to rankingsguy@hotmail.com

I see absolutely nothing but positives in what Penn is doing. How can anyone who is for the betterment of the sport not agree. It is giving more kids opportunities, it is improving the level of competition in Indiana, and it is completely within the rules. How can anyone who calls themselves a wrestling supporter not like what Penn is doing? Sure, I can see not wanting to lose to Penn's JV squad, but at the same time, Hanover Central coach Nick Petrov put it best when he made such gracious comments in defeat by Penn's JV and even called it "great for the sport in Indiana".

Will Penn be sending the 1st string to the Harvest Classic at Lake Central or to the Franklin Super 6?

I thought it would be interesting to see how each regional has fared at the state's toughest semi-state, Merrillville, over the last 5 years.. here is the breakdown (for those of you unfamiliar with the geographic distribution, I will include those that were State Champs and Runners-Up from each Regional) *Note that the Calumet and LaPorte regionals combined is the area often referred to as "Da Region": 2010: Calumet- 11 State Qualifiers, 7 of those were Medalists 2009: Calumet- 12 State Qualifiers, 8 of those were Medalists 2008: Calumet- 14 State Qualifiers, 9 of those were Medalists 2007: Calumet- 14 State Qualifiers, 8 of those were Medalists 2006: Calumet- 14 State Qualifiers, 7 of those were Medalists 2006-2010 Calumet SQ: 65 2006-2010 Calumet Medalists: 39 2006-2010 Calumet Friday Night at State Winning Percentage: 60.0% State Champs from Calumet from 2006-2010: 10 (Kyle Ayersman-Lake Central, Frankie Porras-Hobart 2x, Brennan Cosgrove-Hobart, Eric Galka-Hobart, Eric McGill-Munster 2x, Jamal Lawrence-Merrillville, Javier Salas-Merrillville, Dexter Larimore-Merrillville) Runners-Up from Calumet from 2006-2010: 5 (James Travis-Merrillville, Frankie Porras-Hobart, Eric Galka-Hobart, Brennan Cosgrove-Hobart 2x) 2010: LaPorte- 14 State Qualifiers, 9 of those were Medalists 2009: LaPorte- 15 State Qualifiers, 13 of those were Medalists 2008: LaPorte- 15 State Qualifiers, 10 of those were Medalists 2007: LaPorte- 17 State Qualifiers, 12 of those were Medalists 2006: LaPorte- 14 State Qualifiers, 9 of those were Medalists 2006-2010 LaPorte SQ: 75 2006-2010 LaPorte Medalists: 53 2006-2010 LaPorte Friday Night at State Winning Percentage: 70.66% State Champs from LaPorte from 2006-2010: 14 (Eric Roach-Crown Point, Nathan Cleveland-Lowell, Anthony Hawkins-Crown Point, Jason Tsirtsis-Crown Point 2x, Sean McMurray- Portage 3x, Marcus Shrewsbury-Crown Point, Tom Churchard- Valparaiso, Andrew Howe-Hanover Central 3x, Chad Biddle-Portage) Runners-Up from LaPorte from 2006-2010: 10 (Paul Petrov-Hanover Central, Danny Bradley-Knox, Anthony Quiroz-Chesterton, Eric Roach-Crown Point, Marcus Shrewsbury-Crown Point, Tom Churchard-Valparaiso, Andy St. Germain-Chesterton, Phillip Oudhuis-New Prairie, Derek Traversa-John Glenn, Adam Walters-Portage) 2010: Logansport- 10 State Qualifiers, 3 of those were Medalists 2009: Logansport- 12 State Qualifiers, 4 of those were Medalists 2008: Logansport- 8 State Qualifiers, 2 of those were Medalists 2007: Logansport- 6 State Qualifiers, 1 of those were a Medalist 2006: Logansport- 8 State Qualifiers, 3 of those were Medalists 2006-2010 Logansport SQ: 44 2006-2010 Logansport Medalists: 13 2006-2010 Logansport Friday Night at State Winning Percentage: 29.55% State Champs from Logansport from 2006-2010: 0 Runners-Up from Logansport from 2006-2010: 2 (Braden Atwood-Delphi, Travis Dale-McCutcheon) 2010: Rochester- 21 State Qualifiers, 11 of those were Medalists 2009: Rochester- 17 State Qualifiers, 10 of those were Medalists 2008: Rochester- 19 State Qualifiers, 14 of those were Medalists 2007: Rochester- 19 State Qualifiers, 13 of those were Medalists 2006: Rochester- 20 State Qualifiers, 13 of those were Medalists 2006-2010 Rochester SQ: 96 2006-2010 Rochester Medalists: 61 2006-2010 Rochester Friday Night at State Winning Percentage: 63.54% State Champs from Rochester from 2006-2010: 10 (Steve Sandefer-Mishawaka 2x, Daniel Young-Culver Academies, Josh Harper-Mishawaka 3x, Ian Hinton-Mishawaka 2x, George Malone-South Bend Riley, Pat Day-Mishawaka) Runners-Up from Rochester from 2006-2010: 4 (Paul Beck-Mishawaka, Christian Lentz-Mishawaka 2x, Cory Fornal-Rochester) On average.. Rochester- 19.2 Qualifers per year, 12.2 Medalists per year, .8 Runners-Up per year, 2 State Champs per year LaPorte- 15.0 Qualifiers per year, 10.6 Medalists per year, 2 Runners-Up per year, 2.8 State Champs per year Calumet- 13.0 Qualifiers per year, 7.8 Medalists per year, 1 Runner-Up per year, 2 State Champs per year Logansport- 8.8 Qualifiers per year, 2.6 Medalists per year, .4 Runners-Up per year, 0 State Champs per year As is well documented, Logansport is the weakest, though they have been getting more qualifiers with the emergence of Delphi as a state power, however the State Champs, Runners-Up, and Medalists are pretty much all coming from Calumet, LaPorte, and Rochester. YoungOne... it's hard to argue against the data! The Logansport Regional comes into the Merrillville Semi-State every single year and gets throttled by the other 3 regionals. Then, if they are lucky enough to sneak through to state, they've only got about a 30% chance of winning on Friday night at state, compared to the other regionals which have probabilities between 60 and 70%! You're gonna have a hard time convincing me that more Logansport Regional kids (where Seeger hails from) need to be ranked. Only a little over half of their regional champions even make it out of the semi-state, and of those 8 or 10, only 2 or 3 ever find themselves on the podium on Saturday night, and never on the top step.

It's a labor of love. I wouldn't do it, if I didn't enjoy it, as it's a hell of a lot of work. That said, I take it very seriously and have thoroughly thought through each and every weight class as to be able to give adequate explanations to curious fans.

To speak to your question directly, Adam Garcia was placed at #4 at 119 not because he attends Merrillville HS, but rather for the fact that he soundly beat Danny Rodriguez of Highland and Brandon Coppinger of Portage last season (both state qualifiers at 112). About nobody would have predicted that Adam Garcia would not have made it to state last year after seeing the semi-state draw. You are correct in the fact that he lost to a Seeger wrestler at semi-state, my defense to that point would be that Garcia's entire body of work is much, much stronger than that Seeger wrestler's body of work throughout the season. Not many would argue that Adam Garcia is not a better wrestler than the Seeger wrestler, but Garcia happened to be caught in a neck-wrench in that opening round of semi-state, so on that day, you are correct, the Seeger wrestler was better. As far as Jordan Hicks, I argue that again, the complete body of work of the wrestlers ahead of him exceed his one state qualification out of the quarterfinal that he won with freshmen Hartman from Clay and Schurg from Crown Point. The only wrestlers who have no state experience ahead of Hicks are Slagle, Padilla, and McGinley. Slagle may be the most improved wrestler in the whole state in my opinion and I expect him to become the favorite to win the Merrillville Semi-State as the season progresses. According to accounts, he's competing with and even beating wrestlers such as Coppinger and Halsted of Crown Point in the practice room this pre-season at RWA. Al Padilla of Merrillville wrestled two different 1 point matches with state champion Anthony Hawkins, which makes him better than Hicks in my opinion. Charlie McGinley, the last of the non-state qualifiers at 125, already has a win this year over Ben Sommer of Carmel, who had an overall better body of work last season than Hicks, in my opinion, as well as having much more impressive ISWA results than Hicks. I hope this helps.

Football was something I considered, and this causes the potential for the #1 or #2 kids to decline the offer, however, if it's late enough in October, half or more than half of the football teams in the state are already eliminated anyways. I agree that the venue is a big factor in how successful the attendance can be. One idea that I came up with to increase attendance would be to possibly invite 4 kids per weight, which would likely more than double the attendance. This, however, would detract from the prestigiousness of an invitation. Also, I think one huge benefit of participating in an event like this would be that college coaches would LOVE to attend something like this and get to see kids in action. I am very confident that Purdue, IU, and maybe even Illinois, etc. in Division 1 would send a representative, not to mention all of the Division 2, Division 3, NAIA, and NJCAA coaches that would be interested in attending something like this.

Hey Everyone, I've talked to Y2 a little bit about this, but I wanted to post an idea that I had here on the board, and I am asking for feedback from the wrestling community (wrestlers, parents, coaches, fans, etc.) to see what you all think about it.. Here it goes: Every year, at the beginning of the season, the NWCA puts together what they call the "All-Star Match" in which they invite the Top 2 pre-season ranked NCAA Division 1 wrestlers in each weight class to compete in an exhibition match against one another. 1 match per weight, 10 matches total. The invite to compete is extended to #1 and #2 in the country in the pre-season polls, and then they have the option to either accept, or decline, and if #1 or #2 decline the invitation, then an invitation is extended to #3, etc. until the top 2 wrestlers who accept the invitation are found. I feel like it would be very exciting for Indiana wrestling if IndianaMat.com sponsored our very own version of the All-Star match, in which I would extend an invitation to each of the top 2 kids in each weight class to wrestle one another (most likely with 5 pound allowance) in a 14 match show for the fans in mid to late October just before the first official practice.. My questions then, are... would we, the wrestling community, attend? Would the coaches with top ranked wrestlers be willing to send their kids to this All-Star match? Would the kids want to compete in it? Your thoughts are greatly appreciated. Hopefully we can get this idea off the ground!

I'd love to be able to answer your question, which I always ask for in all of my posts, but I have a hard time doing so without you being more specific. Could you please use names and schools and restate your question? That way I'd gladly answer your inquiry.

also, i need names for 171..

new rankings have been posted as of 10:00 pm on november 28th.. as always, i value your questions, concerns, and opinions... please either post them here or email me at rankingsguy@hotmail.com p.s. be sure to check the rankings out... we've got a new #1 at 103!

And Trey Reese

the rankings have been updated as of 3:45 pm eastern time on november 26th.. again, please share your comments, concerns with the rankings either on this thread or by email to me at rankingsguy@hotmail.com