Don't take me the wrong way, I wouldn't knock anyone for rooting on they're kids, or kids they know, or their team for that matter. That's what we all do, wrestling is the toughest sport out there, it takes a lot of courage to go out there win or lose. I agree that any individual or program can improve, I use Concordia as an example, 5-6 years ago their program was down, but with some good leadership it's improved. I'm not a coach either, I have a son on the team, and I'm impressed at what they've done as a team this year, especially since we only roster a total of 17 kids, individually they may not always win but as a team they pull together and make wins happen. But I appreciate you're input and I appreciate conversations about the SAC because as a conference they have been overlooked in wrestling for a while now.