futureRECORDholder

I have read some good discussion on this topic. Very thought invoking. Let me just say this: It appears to me that there is no agreement on whether or not wrestling in Indiana should be classed. Think of it this way, put two kids out on the mat and let them show you who the better wrestler is. No more statistics on the number of wrestlers who qualified for each class. Just let them wrestle. If somebody has the desire to win a state title, they can do it no matter what school they are from. Andrew Howe was one of the best wrestlers to come from Indiana and he went to a small school. Howe is not the only one though, but I'm not going to sit here and list all of the successful wrestlers from small schools (research it yourself). One final thought: It also appears to me that there are too many dads on this forum who are squabbling about unsure facts and statistics. Here is a statistic, probably 80% or more of wrestling dads never wrestled in high school. I know that there will be replies saying "What do you mean? I wrestled in high school!" I am not referring to the 20% that wrestled in high school. You know who you are, sitting on this forum complaining about "classed wrestling". Imo, keep it the way it is. Why fix it if it isn't broken? Oh and by the way, guys who bring up statistics listen GOOD, you should know that there is something called an outlier when gathering data. Those outliers are wrestlers who do not fit the statistics that have been gathered. Let those outliers continue to not be limited by statistics and let the best man win. I'm glad I didn't see a statistic and limit how far I went because the statistic said I probably wont make it.

Mudflap, you have to realize that if Indiana kids don't want to stay in Indiana,they don't have too. You make it sound like we are obligated to go to an Indiana college. I understand your side in the debate, but if there is a better school that wants an elite wrestler, then by all means they should go. Do you think Jason would have won the Big 10 at IU or Purdue? He went to NW to get better because there are better wrestlers at these other schools. So to sum up, Indiana wrestlers are not obligated to go to less talented Indiana colleges, and they go out of state because there are better practice partners.

Back to the main topic of this thread, I think lee would beat Red. I believe Lee has more credentials anyway. They do have a chance of facing next year but we all know they will dodge each other b/c they both want a state title next year

It is legal to do a full nelson in freestyle so long as you don't force their chin down into their chest. Or at least I it was back before they changed the rules in 2013 or something like that