blueandgold Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Suggesting a massive overhaul to the state tournament series would be a waste of breath at this point because there are too many who don't like change, but I've heard plenty frustrated by the determining of alternates via "losing in the ticket round to the champ," as well as the rest of us upset about wrestlebacks. So, how about doing what the IHSAA has already done: Using wrestlebacks to determine fifth and sixth place finishers at semi-state. I believe the last time they'd done this was 2013. However, this time around fifth placers are qualifiers while sixth placers are alternates and at state all 4th/5th place finishers wrestle a pigtail to enter the main bracket. It would add 56 matches to the tournament, but with state starting earlier in recent years, it could be a decent move. It's not really a foreign concept and doesn't change the "determining a winner" formula, but could make the alternate situation much better as well as giving quarterfinal losers a chance to at least prove they belong at the state finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayinSTL Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) Or…. wrestlebacks at SS after quarterfinals to determine 5/6. Wrestle 3rd and 5th place matches at same time. during finals, instead of 3rd place match, wrestle true 4th matches only where necessary. If 4th place defeated 5th place in quarterfinals no match would be required and scored as a walkover. A true alternate is identified and nothing has to change at the state meet this adds 3-4 matches matches (per weight). Edited February 12 by JayinSTL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgold Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 3 minutes ago, JayinSTL said: Or…. wrestlebacks at SS after quarterfinals to determine 5/6. Wrestle 3rd and 5th place matches at same time. during finals, instead of 3rd place match, wrestle true 4th matches only where necessary. If 4th place defeated 5th place in quarterfinals no match would be required and scored as a walkover. A true alternate is identified and nothing has to change at the state meet I was curious as to where you were going with it for a second, but then you summed it up well, and I wouldn’t be mad at this either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayinSTL Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 personally, I’d rather see full wrestlebacks, even if you only wrestle back after quarters. Would only add 5 matches (2 cons qtrs, 2 cons semis, and 5th place match). KLH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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