I was just wondering what people thought of these moves and how they are applied. I saw a kid get put in a chicken wing(or some call a bar) this past weekend(maybe this past 20 years), I hear all of these coaches yelling sit thru, arch, squeeze elbows together and I see the kid on bottom, with his neck isolated, his head about to pop off and the top man sitting out, arching and gritting his teeth like he is trying to make the kid want to get pinned. Is that legal? It seems to cut the air off of the bottom man since his head is going one way and his body is going another. I am also concerned that his arms might dislocate.
I also witnessed this past weekend at the folkstyle state(or maybe the past 20 years) kids in headlocks, cradles, halves and the coach/parent yelling squeeze, tighten up, lift the head, chin him as to make the kid on bottom want to get pinned. I thought it seemed a bit rough. Some kids were screaming I can't breathe and an official said if you can talk you can breathe.
And, this one got me. I saw a kid with legs in and banana split a guy and just rip him apart, gritting his teeth and trying to end his manhood(although they were just little boys so he will make it) . The kid on bottom was
screaming. When the period ended the kid on bottom got his revenge and hit the kid in a headlock and the kid arched his back, lifted his head, and tried to pin the other kid by making him want to be pinned.
Man, this one got me. I saw a kid put in the legs, arch like a superman, stuff a kids head under(appearing to almost break the kids neck) and rip a kids shoulder until he wanted to get pinned. They took that kid off on a stretcher.
All of this really bothered me until I started remembering back to my original days of going to clinics, camps and coaches clinic, Olympic Training center, and listening to all of the top notch wrestlers and coaches years ago and they all seemed to say the same thing. Things like, when you are pinning them, squeeze the life out of them, make them want to be pinned, if they can talk they can breathe, and all of the other things that seemed almost brutal and almost barbaric.
I even remembered recently seeing a top college coach from this area put on a clinic and show a pinning combo and say, if he doesn't go, he breaks his arm.
Oh I forgot about this one, wow, how about the kid(I saw this from a kid in Northern Inpls around the Carmel area do) that wings a kid over, figure fours the head(with no arm) with his legs(the strongest part of the body) and arch and the kid on bottom is kicking and screaming and the kid on top is just tightening the legs(with no arm) as tight as he can around this kids neck until the kid had to give up. Tough one.
So, as I think thru these things I could not help but wonder, where has this sport gone to when the same things Chauncey Mcdaniels was saying 60 years ago are still being said today. I guess I came to the conclusion that its pretty rough and if I ever have the opportunity to tell a kid not to be put in a pinning combo I will because I know the person on top is going to squeeze the life out of him and try to make him want to be pinned.
I think It was said best by the gentleman who I think started this post, From Oscar on the North Montgomery winter tournament post "The only opinion that counts in a match is the referee's. Don't be upset when it doesn't go your way. THAT'S PART OF WRESTLING."