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Hey AJ, I think that everyone messed that weight class up (189). I didn't really know any of the kids in that bracket. I got a little too cute at 130 and 135. I also messed up the teams a bit. I was torn between Elkhart Memorial and Penn as my number 5, but I picked the wrong one. Oh well.

Hey Y2, I assumed the scoring for the teams is similar to the individual. The team I picked to come in 5th I think actually came in 7th, so I didn't get any points for that pick... correct?

I think that I got 310 with the rules as I understand them.

TAE, I just gave you a cool point for your "Dick the Bruiser" picture. That is great!

How do you guys even know how to score this thing? Could someone explain it to me?

He has beaten alot of quality kids so far this year. He is not dominating them. Not even close to most dominant wrestler ever. Herbert and Metcalf were dominating midlands. Howe dominated last year. That's my definition of it anyways.

Mr. Mom I think. Michael Keaton.

Hey Y2, So for HWT I had Benner from Benton Central. I didn't see him in the bracket, but some other kid named Kit Luce is in the bracket from Benton Central and is still alive in the wrestlebacks. Do I get that guy as my darkhorse now? BTW, It is not too late for you to put your picks up now before the semi-finals, just so the rest of us know what we should have picked. Thanks! PS... How is the Darkhorse scored? Do you get points if they place at all or do they have to take 1st or 2nd to get you points?

Hey, First thing is I didn't see any Y2 picks. Second thing is that these brackets got messed up. Some of my dark horses who were 5 seeds moved to 4 seeds. What's going to happen with that? Do they become illegal dark horse picks now? Another one of my dark horses isn't even in the bracket! Another one of my dark horses didn't show up, but some other kid from the same school is wrestling. Do I get to adopt that guy as my dark horse? Anyways, I was just wondering what's going on with this contest.

C'mon, Combat. What does that really mean? Just let them wrestle. I believe they have a dual meet together. You know that different styles match up differently. Hinton got a crummy draw no doubt, but give Corpe some credit. He was a match away from placing. I think that it will be a good match if they wrestle.

Teams: 1) Mishawaka 2) Bellmont 3) Merrillville 4) Lawrence North 5) Elkhart Memorial 103: 1st - Kyle Ayersman (Lake Central) 2nd - Zack Stevens (Merrillville) DH - Jacob Schroder (Rochester) 112: 1st - Brandon Nelsen (Lawrence North) 2nd - Paul Beck (Mishawaka) DH - Garth Simpson (Rochester) 119: 1st - Jake Lamb (Lowell) 2nd - Matt Milton (Center Grove) DH - Cory Hildebrandt (Penn) 125: 1st - Justin Brooks (Warsaw) 2nd - Anthony Napules (Merrillville) DH - Tony Stevens (Penn) 130: 1st - Frankie Porras (Hobart) 2nd - Josh Harper (Mishawaka) DH - Will Sheets (Bellmont) 135: 1st - Taylor March (East Noble) 2nd - Paul Monbu (Warsaw) DH - Alberto Rios (Elkhart Memorial) 140: 1st - Steven Sandefer (Mishawaka) 2nd - Ryan Stahl (Elkhart Memorial) DH - Darius Richmond (Merrillville) 145: 1st - Zack Corpe (Elkhart Memorial) 2nd - Matt Goodwin (Lawrence North) DH - Keon Jones (Merrillville) 152: 1st - Tyler Baker (Bellmont) 2nd - Jordan Martin (New Prairie) DH - Anthony Quiroz (Chesterton) 160: 1st - Kurt Monix (Lowell) 2nd - Quinn Kurtz (Prairie Heights) DH - Rob Keough (Lake Central) 171: 1st - Shelby Mappes (Center Grove) 2nd - George Lopez (Northwood) DH - Huey Hudson (Southbend Riley) 189: 1st - Brett Worden (Peru) 2nd - Carson Sappington (Elkhart Memorial) DH - Andrew Bultemeier (Bellmont) 215: 1st - Billy Baker (Bellmont) 2nd - Nathan Cleveland (Lowell) DH - Christian Lentz (Mishawaka) HWT: 1st - James Travis (Merillville) 2nd - Travis Thomas (Mishawaka) DH - Dereck Benner (Benton Central)

Tough draw for Ian Hinton, eh? When did he make the drop to 174? I thought that he was 184 last I checked.

Hey, I haven't noticed any posts from LPD? Anyone know what he's up to? Lowell's got 3 undefeated wrestlers going into the Al Smith and I haven't heard any hype about these guys making some noise or anything. I am starting to get worried.

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Thanks, Karl. A picture is worth a thousand words. Cool rocket!

Question for you, TAE. What is a Fez?

Sounds like a BS excuse to me when I hear that famous "got caught" line. Rationalization. Defense Mechanism. Call it what you will. Getting pinned is the worst! I guess to me it's a pride thing. I don't see what difference it makes what the circumstances are when the pin occurs. Let me put it to you this way. If you were coaching a beginning wrestler and he got pinned his first couple of times out there, then wrestled the same kids later in the season and didn't get pinned, wouldn't that be considered progress? Even if he gets teched? I would say yes. Maybe you are right that the kid getting killed by points might only win 1 out of 10 or even 1 out of 100 . To me that would just make it hurt even more.

former130 - I have to totally disagree with you. Getting pinned is WAY worse than getting destroyed on points. The great thing about wrestling is that when the score is 28-15 and you are 1 takedown from getting teched you can still win by pinning your opponent, at which point who cares what the score was. I know it rarely if ever happens, but it does happen. Actually, it happened at the beast of the east tournament this year (the match is on flowrestling). At 171 that Ed Ruth kid (#1 seed from Blair Academy) was destroying an unseeded wrestler and got spladled. I think it's great. NCAA finals, I can't remember the exact match or year, but the guy was on the verge of getting teched, hits a cement mixer for the pin and wins the national title. Awesome stuff! I do think there should be more of an emphasis on mat wrestling. I mean think about the scoring system. Near fall is huge! If you can score 3 near fall points you go up by 3 points. To accomplish the same thing with takedowns means you have to cut him, take him down (2-1), cut him again, take him down again (4-2), cut him again take him down again (6-3). Seems like alot more work. That being said, sometimes you need to soften the guy up on bottom by taking it to him on your feet for a while. Like Y2 said it is much better to go into the 2nd period up 4-1 or 6-2 than it is to go into it 2-0. To the guy who said that it is bad coaching if the kid gets taken down more than 4 times in a period, then I guess you never watched Howe wrestle. I saw him take down some pretty good dudes 4 or more times in one period. I saw him go nuts on Jamal Lawrence one year he had to have at least 4 take downs in one period. He also did it to Brett Mellis and Mark Myers and I am sure the list of his victims for this category is very long. I think that the point of the original post is when a guy continues to beat up on a kid that he should be able to pin at some point it becomes classless and I have seen that happen too. Bottom line is that sometimes you gotta take your lumps before you can give them and if you can't take a whoopin', then maybe you are in the wrong sport. The thing about wrestling is that you have to use the whoopins as fuel to get yourself better. It can make you realize that you really do have alot more work to do than you thought to get where you want to go.

Congrats, Y2! Who is going to run the board when you are gone?

Would someone kindly explain the new feature. I replied a while ago and don't see anything. Is this some kind of joke, Y2?

OK... what's the deal with this?

Actually mtv, I just gave you a cool point. Good post. Even though I still remember that you called my area of the state the armpit of society and I have to see things in black and white.

Hey Y2.... yeah congrats on hacking the old board again. I just tried to look at it and it looks like it is crashed just the same way as before.... What a piece of crap that old board is. I am sure it will be up and running again by January.

Howdog is the head wrestling coach in Maricopa, AZ now. I hear he is doing good things with his team out there. I think alot of the other names are one person with multiple screen names.

I am thinking he gets alot of flair points from the people voting on this because of his aggressive and entertaining style of wrestling plus the fact that he likes to bump up weight classes to face the best possible opponents in order to make himself the best wrestler he can be. Plus he's kind of good.