grecoref
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So your kid chose to spend the extra money. He wasn't forced to do it by the ISWA or FBI or some other covert organization. In all the threads and all the complaints, I don't recall seeing your solution to all of this. What say you Y2?
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Penn's qualifier was the same date as Franklin's. He could have saved the price of a hotel and the extra food and gas.
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Your kid spent $500 for 2 qualifiers? Where the heck did he go?
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And volunteers like me are losing their interest.
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If there is no requirement for qualifying then how do you suggest we get kids to wrestle in local events? Why would a club want to host an event if there wasn't a requirement to participate? Ohio has a requirement to compete in their State Finals. Illinois does not. Illinois had about 650 for their State Greco last week and over 950 for FS this weekend. Both states have a petition process to make the trip to Fargo. I am thinking something like this... Wrestle in a USAW National or Regional event prior to the State Final regardless of style, counts as a one event waiver Extend the season and require 2 events. See above for the waiver Place Top 3 in a local event-automatic qualify All American in FS or GR previous year-automatic qualify. Injury waiver-only if on Physician's Letterhead and must be out for 2 weeks or more.
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I really wish I would have been able to work this. Since my divorce 8 years ago I kind of miss being screamed at in the middle of the week.
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That was my point. Stop the bitching and start doing.
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I agree ISWA National Team Members should get a 1 event waiver. In fact, I wrote a formal proposal to the ISWA this year suggesting that.
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Here is what I am understanding from all of this..... The ISWA screwed up last year by allowing waivers! The ISWA screwed up this year by not allowing waivers! The qualifier requirement is a good thing! The qualifier requirement is a bad thing! Our kids should not be penalized for wrestling in a "National" Tournament (one of the 176 "National" Tournaments currently being conducted) Our kids should wrestle FS/GR and not Folkstyle if they want to compete in Fargo! If you don't agree with the poster then something is wrong with you! If you want to express your opinion to the ISWA, attend a meeting, email them or call them. If the ISWA was concerned about our opinions they would read this message board. Lastly, what I really get out of this is the people who are passionate about our sport can't agree what is best for the sport. Maybe, just maybe, we should stop trying to prove "my idea is the best" and start working together to get this right before it's too late. I have seen organizations split. I am old enough to remember the AAU/USWF battles. Good people on both sides were lost because they couldn't work together. Don't allow that to happen here.
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I agree that all requirements should be met for any sanctioned event. I would think you could wrestle 3 matches in an hour if it were organized properly. I was at Warren on Saturday and they had about 450 kids. We started about 9:30 and we were done around 3:00. That's pretty organized. I couldn't agree more that "it shouldn't have to be found." Being fair is important to me as well. If I thought for on minute this was not fair I would be taking the opposite stance.
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Perhaps someone can help me understand something. I am by far not the sharpest pencil in the box. Last year the ISWA said no waivers for Freestyle State and then the week of the event they retracted that policy and allowed waivers. I agree that was handled poorly. This year the ISWA again states no waivers. I have been told by the ISWA State Chairman and other Board Members that they are standing firm with no waivers and will not bend whatsoever. I don't agree with that, but that's the way it is. Now we have a few folks finding a way to give more athletes an opportunity to compete by hosting an event and people are opposed to that. If they sanction the event through the ISWA/USAW what is the problem? It's an option we didn't have a week ago. I really don't understand the issue.
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Kudos to those who are thinking outside the box!
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My luck he would try to field dress me and take a photo with the carcass
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It's in my living will that I have a DNR if Morgan is the only resource for CPR.
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Excellent point!
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Like Italy for example
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Alex Dieringer is not the current World or Olympic Champion. Jordan Burroughs is and to date has lost 2 international matches in his career. Burroughs would be my only automatic pick. As of Sunday evening, J'Den Cox does not posses a US Passport. He can get one in a day or so, no problem. There is NO comparison to Jordan Burroughs success with anyone else on our current Olympic Team. I am by no means selling any of our other athletes short. Those who made and those who didn't. Again, I am saying until things change a guy like Burroughs should get a free pass. The other countries do it without hesitation.
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I would never understate the significance of participating in the Olympic Games.
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I would say that a wrestler like Jordan Burroughs who continues to win championships both internationally and domestically is clearly our best guy right now. Two of the greatest wrestlers in NCAA history went up a weight to stay away from him. My opinion, is he should have been named to the team. I'm not saying we should name an athlete for every weight just an individual like this who is clearly above the rest of the competition and has proven himself on the world level by winning championships. At the 1992 Trials John Smith came dangerously close to losing to John Fisher in the final wrestle off. Smith had been battling a staph infection and Fisher was good and came close to beating him. Fisher was an excellent wrestler and an even better guy, but would not have won a gold medal in Barcelona as we all know Smith did.
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Yes to the 2012 question. Not exactly to the second question. Marable didn't "miss weight"...he just didn't weigh in. He got a medical exemption because a Doctor signed off on it. There have been others as well that involved litigation. The Seracki-Lindland match that was ordered to be rewrestled in 2000 is just an example. I was asked to be one of the referees for the rewrestle but I refused to go because I didn't agree with the litigation.
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There have been injury exceptions in the past, but only if it was the number 1 guy. The only exception was the 1984 Trials.
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Nobody is picking a champion, just a team member. Why not put the guy who has the best chance of winning on the mat?
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I can guarantee you that if most countries had a guy like Burroughs he would not have had to wrestle-off, he would just be on the team. I can tell you guys like Satiev, Belaglozlov, Fadziev, etc..., NEVER wrestled-off for a spot on their team once they were established.
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I had some severe back spasms going from my lower back all the way up to my neck. The spasms caused very intense pain and my back and neck "locked up". I owed it to the both Robbie Smith and Adam Coon to take myself out of the match. They have worked most of their lives to make the Olympic Team and I was not any where near being able to be my best. The medical staff checked me for cardiac and stroke issues and they were right on top of it. When they were sure it wasn't something life threatening they took me to the training room. When the Iowa Wrestling Trainer examines you and says "Oh, you have a big problem here" you know something is wrong. Once it was determined that I was going to live, my fellow referees made remarks such as "He couldn't have a heart attack, that is anatomically impossible. He doesn't have a heart." "We took a poll to see who was going to give you CPR and we stopped when were 0 for 7." Which is exactly the kind of thing I would have said. I'm ok now but will make an appointment with my Doctor very soon. Thanks for the concern. Tom Clark
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Trials not Trails....I blame spellcheck.
