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On August 23, 2018 at 10:33 AM, maligned said:

In my opinion, it's the effects of technology and economic progress. With the advent of the internet and then social media, ideas/schedules/plans are shared more quickly and easily. And the average American family, with our nation's steady economic progress, has significantly more flexibility in their spending that allows for more camps and travel--and therefore a building of wrestling networks and an exposure to what's out there. Once you've got all the info of what's happening in wrestling, you've built your wrestling community network from a distance, and you've got that slightly more income and awareness of jobs available elsewhere--the leap to a family move is relatively quick and painless compared to 30 or 40 years ago. Then when a couple families do it, it's that much easier for others to follow suit.

We're getting more mobile on every level as a society--not less. It's happening on a national level in terms of populations in cities, for example. People are trickling away from all the big Midwest cities and landing in coastal or warm-weather or tech-oriented cities. I'm not sure what the smart answers are to the issues Coach P. raises. If we as a society are clearly migrating toward what's perceived to be bigger/better/smarter/hipper, it will be tough to slow the trend in high school wrestling. How do you build those arguments to families that "better" can actually mean bettering your community, being loyal, and growing as human beings in accomplishing what others say we can't?

I agree with this, our coach at Heritage Hills resigned at the end of the school year last year and within two weeks had packed up his family and moved back to NC.  His son is already training at  M2 Training Center, David Taylor's place in Pennsylvania, yes dad travels twice a month to PA or more according to FB post, crazy things we as parents do for our kids, lol. Son is training I believe with Marine Corps team because his dad coached there years ago, also felt IHSAA in season training restrictions may hinder some of his development.  This is a family that relocated strictly for wrestling and doing what they thought was best.  Who are we to question parents doing what they think is best.

3 minutes ago, 3xStateChamp said:

Pistol not being rude here but ...... who is this Bell ? What weight would he be wrestling ? Was he on Sigs incoming Freshman list ? What is HH ? 

 

Woooo.... Bang ! Bang ! Bang ! 

Pistol Pete 

 

just a confused Indiana HS wrestling fan 

 

 

HH is Heritage Hills, lol. Devon Bell was on the top 25 middle schoolers in the state list was not on the Sigs incoming freshman list they moved I believe around the end of school last year back to NC his dad resigned as HH head coach. Devon was a ISWA state runner up losing to Brady Mcvivitz in the finals a stud from Avon. Devon has won nationals and placed several times. Probably would of been 138-52 as a freshman I know wrestled I believe 142 last year at post season USA Nationals, but is a tall kid say probably 5'10 so do not know what he is weighing now.

1 hour ago, Takeyoudown said:

I’m sure you can appreciate local rivalries monitoring other programs on the decline or vice versa. 21 on your V roster? I must have missed all those athletes this past year when we faced off.

You seem to be missing the point- I’m providing facts by stating numbers are massive in great youth program then drop? Your argument is based off of people’s opinions about an AD? Why are the other sports flourishing at HH? AD involved with those as well? School board minutes simply state when people are leaving. Do they state the why? When you decide to sit down and have a fact supported discussion let me know. 

Take away message from this discussion- don’t hope for local sports to rise and compete and be better. I would hate for other schools to challenge each other and improve. 

The wins and regional/semi state qualifiers are fact based.  You seem to not want to accept the facts. No opinion needed here, the facts are HH was I agree dying 4 seasons ago with only 6 wrestlers and 4 wins, three years later 22 wins and you know the rest on our regional and semi state qualifiers.  So please state your facts on our program dying because I don't see any. Do not understand your reasoning except you do like Coach Bell. 

Your are correct we got way off on the topic. Losing Devon Bell is a lost for HH and in my opinion for the state of Indiana. This kid will have a stellar high school career at the state and national level by the time he graduates. He has wrestled with the best upcoming studs in our state and competed on teams that represented our state well and he will be missed. If you don't agree than that is your opinion but I am sure you can ask plenty coaches around the area and state he is a top level wrestler.

Good luck to you this coming season;

1 hour ago, Takeyoudown said:

I’m sure you can appreciate local rivalries monitoring other programs on the decline or vice versa. 21 on your V roster? I must have missed all those athletes this past year when we faced off.

You seem to be missing the point- I’m providing facts by stating numbers are massive in great youth program then drop? Your argument is based off of people’s opinions about an AD? Why are the other sports flourishing at HH? AD involved with those as well? School board minutes simply state when people are leaving. Do they state the why? When you decide to sit down and have a fact supported discussion let me know. 

Take away message from this discussion- don’t hope for local sports to rise and compete and be better. I would hate for other schools to challenge each other and improve. 

Really do not understand your vested interest in our program, Coach Bell took a program over that had 4 dual wins with only 4 regionals qualifiers and three years later 22 dual wins and 8 regional and 4 semi state qualifiers that is improvement in any program. Now Coach Zollman can build from here, I do not see the problem with that.  Some sports programs are flourishing and wrestling has been on a steady climb, the wins and advancements prove that and Coach Zollman will be build on that. If you don't see that than you have a personal issue with coach Bell so take it up with him.  I am sure any wrestling program that can go from 4 wins to 22 would be considered a improving program.  

Of course I appreciate you monitoring rival programs I would even expect that. This is the reason I do not understand your statement, if you have been monitoring our program than you would of seen a steady improvement the, statistics speak for themselves. 

41 minutes ago, jpt189 said:

The 4 coaches in 6 years i don't think may quite fall on the AD.

coach Thompson left to take a principal job at mt Vernon

 Coach Robson went back to coach at Castle

coach Bell went back to North Carolina where he lived for many years

But I am saying through out our athletic programs there has to be a reason for so many coaches leaving.

37 minutes ago, Takeyoudown said:

Your knowledge on the inner workings of the athletic department makes it appear you work for them? Interesting you’d know all of this and not know which school Devon Bell is attending in NC. Even more interesting a possible employee is posting on an open forum as such? I can assure you it’s public knowledge where Devon is going since it’s been posted online. Again, never once said anything negative about Devon Bell you seem to be searching for something not there. Based on your above recommendation I would agree you need to have a discussion with AD since you very publicly called him out vs. taking it up with him which in my opinion isn’t mature or professional.

Apologies stating it’s a dying program (with facts, look at the numbers) and how my hopes it’ll be restored bothered you. So much for well wishes for local schools to become powerhouses again. At least we both can agree we hope Coach Zollman will develop a great HH program for many years to come. 

Not an employee just a tax paying parent that has been involved with HH wrestling for over 10 years. You sure seem to know the inner workings of our program from elementary to high school for an outsider. Dying program that went from 6 wrestlers to 21 and just one away from breaking school record for most semi state qualifiers all this in only three years. Yes look at the numbers it has tripled from the 6 we had three seasons ago. Simply put all this could of been avoided with a mature response of "wish him luck" if you are worried about local schools seems to me you would of wanted to keep him in the area. You are correct his school is online a 3A school if that matters. I have all tne faith in Coach Zollman but Coach Bell was beyond committed to our kids and the program.

With all the coaching changes through out our athletics it must fall on the shoulders of the leader of the athletics. You do not have to know the inner workings or be a employee just read the minutes from the board meetings. 

32 minutes ago, Takeyoudown said:

Just to confirm I’ve not once degraded Devon Bell- I even said he’s a bit of a loss. I look forward to following him and hope to see him getting medal on the NC 1A podium in the upcoming years. However, I am saying having such a strong disconnect in the program is what made it a dead or dying program. HH has huge numbers in an awesome youth program that dwindles in jr high and high school. No freshman last year correct? Simply stating as someone who enjoys quality wrestling matches I hope this new coach turns the program around in the right direction. I’m sure you being a big HH wrestling supporter you can appreciate all the qualities he’s bringing to the table. Pretty exciting to see a local program restored back into a good one. We can surely agree on that?

I for one a long time supporter of HH, by no means putting this on coach Bell. Coach Bell took these kids all over the nation and was totally committed. I think the disconnect is the AD, 4 coaches in 6 years plus many more coaching changes is on the AD.  Why do we have swimming, baseball, volleyball, boys basketball, wrestling all leaving within the past 4 years. Yes, I precise any coach that is committed I just think there is a bigger issue with the coaching carousel in all sports at HH. I don't understand why we as adults can't be a positive influence in our youth without taking stabs at our hard working youth, example NC 1A podium, how do you know this do you know what school he is at because I don't?

A mature response to my original post would of been "I wish him luck" but then again that would of been an adult mature response.  Of course I wish great things for HH and Coach Zollmam but that does not negate the fact coach Bell took over the program with 6 wrestlers and within three years had more than that qualifying for regionals. Maybe you don't like coach Bell so you try and degrade is son which is wrong we should support all our youth no matter what school. Take you personal issues up with coach Bell and leave Devon out if it.

7 hours ago, Takeyoudown said:

Devon may be a bit of a loss even if coming from his dad. But truly am worried about HH these upcoming years. Talented new coach reviving a dead program with backing can be a game changer.

How is what I said coming from his dad? So your saying our program is dead, with a 22-10  record and only losing to Dual state runners North Posey by 4.  With 7 regional qualifiers and 4 semi state qualifiers returning.  Obviously this is personal to you because you are not comprehending the facts. Again, and this is not coming from his dad any coach would not want to lose a wrestler of his caliper not saying he is not replaceable just that he is a quality top level wrestler. I mean any wrestler that has been on Indiana national teams and represented our state must have some skills, didn't see any southridge kids even score on him. I went to all the wrestling events, because I have wrestlers and Devon even teched your best wrestler kid twice Carson, who is a quality kid that will be in your varsity lineup as a freshman.

12 hours ago, Takeyoudown said:

Every parent likes to think this of their child. 

Again, do not understand you statement.  Every parent can't think this of their child, if you read my statement. It is just not my opinion that HH lost a quality wrestler it is based on his accomplishments.  He has won a state title, 2 National titles even awarded most outstanding wrestler at nationals and placed at nationals I don't know how many times. He even was accepted and trained at the Olympic Training Center in Colorado this past summer, so I would call that a quality wrestler and I am sure a lot of coaches would also. Wrestled for all star teams from Michigan and many other states. You being a southridge supporter I am sure you have seen him wrestle. So you are welcome to explain your statement because I disagree, that not all parents can say this about their child. At this point I know I can't but we are working on it.

11 hours ago, Takeyoudown said:

Every parent likes to think this of their child. 

Devon Bell is not my child, I just was saying this because I am a HH supporter. Besides every parent can't say their kid is a national champ so with that said I would say we lost a quality kid due to his very accomplished youth accomplishments.  His dad had him competing in high school tourneys during summer starting in 7th grade, so he was more than ready for high school. Don't know what you meant by "every parents likes to think this about their child." Are you insinuating he is not a quality wrestler. If that is the case you are way off, he has wrestled all over the nation and done very well, I mean during middle school season last year wrestled over 20 something matches and not one kid even scored a point. We are suppose to build our youth up, not make a statement that has a negative vibe. 

Heritage Hills lost a quality kid with incoming freshman Devon Bell relocating to North Carolina. Would of been maybe at 138-152, solid kid with a lot of national level experience.  Has won national titles and placed several times at national level tourneys. 

2 minutes ago, Y2CJ41 said:

Where is he going?

They are relocating back to NC. His dad was a coach for the Marine Corps team and I guess felt with the recent success their team is having  wanted him in the Marine Corps room. They had 11 AA at the US Open and a National champ.   His dad served 26 years in the Corps so relocating back to that area.

I would just like to add being a life long Heritage Hills supporter, with Coach Bell resigning I think Indiana is going to miss out on a quality Kid.  Devon Bell, Coach Bell's son would of been a freshman at HH next year and is a top quality wrestler.  Placing twice at USA Nationals, winning Adidas Nationals, ISWA runner up, was on our Indiana Schoolboy national team, been wrestling on the National Level for years. Going to miss watching him in a HH singlet, good luck Devon and Coach Bell.

Head Coach Troy Bell at Heritage Hills has resigned, moving back to NC. Good opportunity for a motivated coach. We finished 22-11 last year with 11 returning starters, 7 regional qualifiers and 4 semi state qualifiers returning.

On ‎2‎/‎16‎/‎2018 at 12:44 PM, Sig40 said:

I moved him out because there was a lot of deserving kids that went to middle school state and placed(most current tournament I can go off of).  Plus as you can see this is just for fun, it does not have a official tab or place in rankings.  Also if you look back I have gone against ISWA more then most have... no love for them.   I can not look at each head to head of every kid in Indiana so things are going to slip by.  

No problem just a life long HH supporter and Devon is a great kid who works is tail off.  Thanks for what you do, but the ISWA still gets on my nerves, lol.

On ‎7‎/‎7‎/‎2017 at 11:08 PM, Sig40 said:

Top 25
Rank/ Name/ Grade/ Projected High School/ Current Weight/ Projected HS Weight

1. Jesse Mendez--8th grade--Crown Point/Mount Carmel--126--(120-126)
(Super32 Champ, USAW triple crown winner, 5X USA National Champ, 2X Tulsa Champ, IHPO Champ, 2X Ohio TOC champ, 3X Middle School state champ, schoolboy Pan Am Greco gold medalist, undefeated at Middle School Nat duals(X2), undefeated at VAC holiday and NHSCA Duals(X2), undefeated in both styles at Schoolboy duals, ranked #39 on Flo Wrestling junior High Big Board, ranked #14 on Youth1 top 75 youth wrestlers)

2.  Zeke Seltzer--8th grade--Cathedral--115--(113-126)
(1st, 2nd, 2nd at Middle School State, PHILO Champ, Super32-3rd place, 3rd place in Freestyle Nationals, 9-0 at the NHSCA duals, Grappler Fall Classic MS Champ, Central Regional Champ, 7-1 schoolboy duals freestyle, 4-1 GRR MS duals, 1st at GRR MS open, 6-2 at Heartland duals, 5-2 Middle school Duals, 4X ISWA State Champ

3. Cody Goodwin--8th grade--Mount Carmel/Lake Central--128--(120-138)
(1st and 6th at Middle School State, 9-1 at VAC, Tulsa Champ, Reno Worlds Runner-Up, Winter Nationals Champ, Brute Nationals Champ, multi time ISWA triple crown winner, Preseason Nationals 2X Runner up and 3rd place, 2X Indy Nationals champ, NUWAY National champ)

4. Matthew Koontz--8th grade--Cathedral--123--(113-132)
(2nd, 4th, and 7th at Middle School State, 10-0 at VAC, 6-0 at Sparty Duals, 8-0 at Iowa Duals, 6-1 at GRR HS duals, 7-0 at GRR MS duals, runner up at GRR MS open, 6-1 at AAU duals, 4-1 at Schoolboy duals FS)

5. Lane Gilbert--7th grade--Sullivan--110--(106-120)
(Middle School State Champ, 3-2 at Tulsa, 6-1 at NUWAY Nat Duals, 7-3 at VAC, multi time ISWA state champ, 8-0 Columbus Day Duals)

6. Griffin Ison--8th grade--Brownsburg--150--(152-170)
(2X Middle School State Champ, 7-0 at NUWAY Nat Duals, ISWA triple crown winner, Indy National champ)

7. Sam Goin--7th grade--Chesterton--95--(106)
(1st, 3rd, and 5th at Middle School State, 10-0 at VAC 2017, Midwest Classic Champ, 4-1 at GRR MS duals, 7-3 at VAC holiday duals 2016, 3rd & 6th at USA Nationals, Indy Nationals Champ, 2X ISWA state champ)

8. Sergio Lemley--7th grade--Chesterton--90--(106)
(1st and 5th at Middle School State, Runner Up at Joe Tholl, Elite, 5-0 at GRR MS duals, 4th at Preseason Nationals, ISWA freestyle state champ, Winter Nationals Champ)

9. Brody Baumann--8th grade--Mater Dei--102--(106)
(1st and 5th at Middle School State, 2-2 at Tulsa, Central Regional FS champ, 8th at USA Nationals, 4-1 at GRR duals, 7-3 at Wildwood duals, 7-3 at VAC holiday duals

10. Kamariyon Nelson--8th grade--Harrison/Reitz--102--(106-113)
(2nd, 3rd, and 4th at Middle School State, 3rd at Tulsa Nationals, 10-0 at VAC, 6-1 at NUWAY Nat duals, 5-2 at GRR HS duals, 12-2 at Schoolboy duals between both styles, Indy Nationals Champ, 6-1 at GRR duals, Show Me Nationals champ)

11. Hayden Watson--8th grade--Greenwood/Roncalli--102--(106)
(2nd, 4th, and 7th at Middle School State, 5-2 at NUWAY Nat Duals, 5-1 at Sparty Duals, 6-4 at VAC, 9-0 Fall Brawl dual, 8-3 Flo Mat Bash, 7-1 at heartland Duals, 5-2 at AAU duals, 4th at TOC, 4-1 at Nationals Middle School duals, 5th and 3rd at Tulsa Nationals, multi ISWA state champ)

12. Cheaney Schoeff--7th grade--Plainfield--88--(106)
(1st and 2nd at Middle School State, 7-0 at NUWAY Nat Duals, 9-1 VAC 2017, 6-0 at Christmas Duals, 9-0 at VAC duals 2016, 7-2 at the NHSCA duals, NUWAY Nationals Champ, 4-2 at GRR MS duals, 6-1 at Middle School National duals, 6-1 at Heartland Duals, multi time ISWA triple crown winner, 3rd and 5th at USA Nationals)

13. Ashton Hayhurst--8th grade--Castle--110--(113-130)
(2X Middle School State Runner Up, 5-5 at VAC in gold pool 2017, 9-1 at VAC holiday duals 2016, 6-0 at GRR duals, Runner up at Central Regional in FS&GR)

14. Logan Frazier--8th grade--Crown Point/Mount Carmel--88--(106)
(1st and 5th at Middle School State, 3-2 at Tulsa, 6-1 at NUWAY Nat duals, Dixie National Champ, Dominate the Dells Champ, Runner Up at GFC, 6-2 at Heartland Duals, 3X ISWA state champ)

15. Bryce Lowery--7th grade--Roncalli/Perry  Meridian--85--(106)
(1st, 4th, and 5th at Middle School State, 5-2 at NUWAY Nat Duals, 4-1 at GRR MS duals, 12-2 between both styles at Schoolboy Duals,  All American at USA Nationals, ISWA Greco state champ)

16. Gabe Sollars--8th grade--West Vigo--136--(138-145)
(Middle School State Champ, 5-1 at GRR, Indy Nationals Nat Champ, 9-1 at VAC duals 2015, Runner Up at USA Nationals, NUWAY Nat Champ, 3rd at Tulsa, multi time ISWA champ)

17. Orlando Cruz--8th grade--Lowell/Crown Point--134--(145-152)
(Runner Up at Middle School State, 8-2 at VAC, 4th at Preseason Nationals, 1st and 2nd at NUWAY National, Indy Nationals 2nd and 4th)

18. Drake Buchanan--8th grade--Center Grove--135--(132-145)
(2nd and 5th at Middle School State, 8th at Preseason Nationals, 6-1 at schoolboy duals Greco style, USAW Nationals All American in freestyle and Greco, 4th at USA Nationals, Indy Nationals champ, multi ISWA state champ)

19. Kade Law--8th grade--Jennings County--135--(132-145)
(3rd at Middle School State, 9-1 at VAC, 5-3 in Greco and Freestyle at Schoolboy Duals)

20. Logan Miller--8th grade--Brownsburg--85--(106)
(Runner Up and 5th place at Middle School State, 5-2 at NUWAY Nat Duals, 4-1 at GRR MS duals, Winter Nationals Champ, 4th place at Super32)

21. John Purdy--7th grade--Castle--112--(106-132)
(4th and 6th at Middle School State, 7-3 at VAC, USA National Champ, 6-1 at Heartland Duals, 8-1 at AAU elementary duals, Dixie National champ, Indy National Champ, multi time ISWA state champ, 3rd at Preseason Nationals)

22. Christian Carroll--7th grade--Penn--144--(145-160)
(6-1 at NUWAY Nat Duals, 5-1 at Sparty Duals, 8-2 at VAC, Preseason Nationals Runner-up, 5-2 at AAU duals, 6-0 at Christmas Duals, ISWA triple Crown Winner)

23. Nathan Smith--7th grade--Southport--75--(106)
(Middle School State Champ, ISWA state champ, 4-2 at NUWAY Nat duals, Placed at Joe Tholl and Celtic Elite, 3rd at NUWAY Nationals)

24. Brac Hooper--7th grade--Carmel--95--(106)
(Runner up at Middle School State, HYWAY state champ, 2X Runner Up at Indy Nat, 6th at Tulsa Nationals and Kickoff, 5th at Preseason Nationals)

25. JJ Conway--8th grade--Charlestown--116--(113-120)
(Runner up at Middle school state, 2nd at Dixie Nationals, 6-4 at VAC duals, 5-1 Border War Duals, 3rd at Indy Nationals)

Updated: 2/14//2018

Tons of up and coming 7th grade talent in the new rankings.  I will try to re rank every month or after every big tournament.  Message me if I missed anyone or if I messed up on grade and school. I know there are some deserving 6th graders, but unless they have some crazy results they will stay in HM.  Couple bigger weight middle school champs(Street, Stockman, Schuetter, Butts, Smitley) need some more results before I can add them... maybe a dominate performance at Heartland duals will do the trick. 

Going to leave Josh down here until he officially moves to Indiana.

2. *Josh Barr--8th grade--Crown Point--112--(113-126)*
(4th at Tulsa 2018, 7-3 at VAC gold pool 2017, Super32 Runner-up, USAW triple crown winner, 4X USA National Champ, Tulsa Champ, Grappler Fall Classic MS champ & HS 3rd place, 9-1 at VAC holiday duals 2016, 9-0 at AAU duals, 9-1 at Wildwood duals, 6-1 at GRR duals HS division)

HM. Drew Mills--6th grade--Center Grove--117--(145-160)
(3-2 at Tulsa 2018, Tulsa Runner Up 2016, Tulsa Kickoff Classic Runner Up 2016, Tulsa Champ 2014, multiple ISWA state Champ)

HM. Brady Ison--6th grade--Brownsburg--80--(106)
(Middle School state champ, multi time ISWA triple crown winner, 5-2 at GRR duals, 2nd at Liberty Nationals, 2nd ay NUWAY Nat, 5th at Tulsa, 2X Runner up at Indy Nationals)

HM. Cole Solomey--8th grade--Kankakee Valley--90--(106)
(3rd and 3rd at Middle School State, 3rd at Midwest Classic, Indy Nationals Runner up)

HM. Isaac Ruble--8th grade--Bellmont--95--(106)
(Indy Nationals champ, NUWAY nationals All American, 4th at GFC, 5th and 6th at Middle School State)

HM. Coy Hammack--7th grade--Tell City--80--(106)
(2nd and 4th at Middle School State, 8-1 at AAU duals, 7-3 at VAC holiday duals, multi time ISWA state champ)

HM. Devon Bell--8th grade--Heritage Hills--135--(132-145)
(2-2 at Tulsa, 4-1 at NUWAY Nat Duals, 5th at Preseason Nationals, Adidas Nationals champ, Runner Up at Conflict at Carver,  GFC 5th, Brute Nationals 4th, ISWA runner up)

HM. Leighton Jones--7th grade--Brownsburg--175--(182-220)
(Runner Up at Middle School State, Runner up in FS and GR USA Nationals, GGR open 1st, 5-2 at GGR duals, 3rd at USA Nationals, Central Regional champ in FS & GR, multi time ISWA state champ)

HM. Nathaniel Lommock--8th grade--South Vermillion--160--(145-160)
(3rd and 5th at middle school state, 5-3 at heartland Duals, 4-1 at Christmas Duals, ISWA state champ)

HM. Seth Willems--7th grade--Chesterton--150--(145-160)
(3rd at Middle School State, 10-3 at Schoolboy duals between both styles, 9-1 at VAC holiday duals, Runner Up at Winter Nationals, ISWA triple crown winner)

HM. Elijah Anthony--8th grade--Frankfort--90--(106)
(Runner Up at PHILO, 3rd at Midwest Nationals, 4-1 at Schoolboy duals, 4th and 8th at Middle School State, Runner Up at Celtic Elite, 4th and 7th at NUWAY Nationals

 

The above rankings sure proves how bias this ranking system is.  When a kid Like Devon Bell is moved out of the ranking because of not doing Middle School Sates due to illness.

Nothing against top quality kids Like Orlando Cruz and Drake Buchanan, but Bell is 2-1  against Cruz Twice defeating him without even being scored on and Defeated  two Kids at USAW Nationals that Defeated Buchanan in the same day.  Total common opponents Buchanan is 0-3 while  Bell 3-0, Bell finishes 5th while Buchanan finishes 8th. Even finished ISWA state runner up last year while Buchanan finished I believe 5th in the same weight.  Proof here that you have to wrestle your ISWA events to ensure they get their money and Middle School state to be on the list.  

*Disclosure, yes I am a Heritage Hills supporter but still think my argument has creditability 

 

 

 

 

 

 

At 170 Green stuck Parker this week at PAC tourney, they have split this year.

Southridge-224, North Posey 214.5, Heritage Hills 174.0, Gibson Southern 159.0, Pike Central 158.0,  Tell City 105.0,  Tecumseh 70.0, South Spencer 68.0, Forest Park 44.0

Top three teams:

Southridge for second year in row, North Posey and Heritage Hills finishing third.

Sam Scott from HH- 1st at 106, Beau Heeke- HH 1st at 120, Josh Bell-HH 3rd at 126,  I remember at 145 Mason Ayer-HH 2nd along with Aidian Rea at 285-HH 2nd.

I know Levi Miller won at 152 and the North Posey kid won it at 126 just do not know his name.

Devon Bell  135 went 2-2

I believe Devon Bell went 4-3 at Heartland dulas.  He also just won the American Crown Preseason Nationals couple weeks ago. He did not do Middle school state last year cause his dad is the High School coach and he was traveling with the team.  Thanks for responding,  again I know I am partial but he is a solid kid.

Correction: Devon and Cruz did not wrestle at the GRR, they wrestled at the Grappler Fall Classic, Bell winning 6-0, these two may see a lot of each other in High School.

Indiana had three wrestlers in the middle school 136 and all three placed.

I know being a life long Heritage Hills supporter I am partial as is most team supporters.  Just wondering how  Devon Bell a Heritage Hills 8th grade is not on this list?  I have been watching this kid for 3 years now and I just don't see how he remains off this list.  

He has a 2-1 record against number 24 Cruz, 6-0 win at the GRR and 7-0 win in the national team wrestle offs, lost 3-1 this weekend in the consolation semis 3-1.  Finished as ISWA runner up this past year while I believe #13 Christain Carroll was 4th or 5th in same weight class.  Wrestled Number 10 Griffin Ison to a 7-5 match how does a kid not even make the list when a Triple Crown Winner has a dogfight with him?

USWA preseason Nationals 5th, GRR 5th, Adidas National Champ and Outstanding Wrestler of the tourney, NUWAY National Runner up, ISWA Runner up and 6th, Member of 2016 Indiana National Gold Team

Again,  I know I am partial to HH just would like our deserving kids to get some recognition.