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  1. 8 points
    Y2CJ41

    Logan Bailey of Cathedral commits to

    Congratulations to Logan Bailey from Indianapolis Cathedral for signing with Indianapolis. He is projected to wrestle 141. View full signing
  2. 8 points
    In all fairness....I think Silas has solidified himself as a pretty special talent regardless of school size. So with all do respect, I genuinely feel to draw a question about why aren’t more 1A or 2A wrestlers like him, is a bit unfair. Almost as unfair as if I asked why aren’t more 4A wrestlers like him. Admittedly....I certainly don’t have the answers regarding pros/cons of class wrestling. I think there’s evidence of beneficial dynamics on both sides. The class question is always intriguing to me because comparisons are frequently made to other power states whose classed (PA, Ill, IA, OH, etc). But I question these comparisons as it pertains to the benefits of classing Indiana. In other words....if those states weren’t classed, would they not be as strong? I personally feel their strengths are elsewhere apart from the classification system. Specifically....their head start in club training, and especially collegiate RTC opportunities. Most notably in PA. In PA alone there are 11 D1 wrestling programs, 8 D2, and 14 D3. This equates to NEVER having to drive too far down the road to get your butt kicked for 2hrs. And in my experience, that dynamic coupled with an athletes desire to close the gap....is the biggest catalyst in the evolving of more nationally elite kids. And unfortunately....class or no class, at this point.....only a handful of young athletes are driven enough to embrace a “Get beat up, or get better” mentality. In fact, classing things in hopes to raise 1A numbers, kinda caters to many of those athletes who are hesitant to compete because of that fear. If numbers is the only goal, then classing definitely benefits. But I’m confident that strictly more bodies on the mat isn’t the zeal motivating class wrestling advocates. I’m fully aware that more participation will undoubtedly eventually mold some freak athlete whose a football player at the small school level into a great wrestler. But what about the “in-betweens”. The guys who literally just lack the drive, and want the accolades without the effort. That’s one of my biggest issues with classing it here. And full transparency......I’m definitely bias by what I’ve personally experienced at the small school level, in contrast to having graduated and competed athletically myself at Muncie Central. The Silas scenario is 100% the embodiment of hard work and extreme levels of self motivation. For 2 years, his daily partner was a 160lb’er.....and a true 170 wrestling up to benefit our team. So having a no excuse mentality.....we had to find partners, supplental/paid clinicians for live wrestling, stance and motion in live match format for 5 periods, old school Rocky like strength training, and literally driving anywhere & everywhere in the off-season....to ensure he’d taste humility and have to overcome a peak to close a gap. Ultimately....it’s simply been a mantra of “Nobody will outwork me”. That alone excited the recruiters. Silas’ ceiling hasn’t even been close to established. He’s never had regular elite partners to push him. He’s a product of self-push, and an overwhelming desire to succeed. In fact, the argument could made.....that Silas is the example of what’s possible at the 1A level. When you simply don’t make excuses about school size, strength of schedule, partners, etc. And just literally make it a lifestyle. Daily telling yourself....I’m going to be better today than I was yesterday. Again....I don’t have all the answers. And I respect the opinion of those whose researched the benefits. I’m just simply sharing what I know to be truth in the lives of my son Silas, and his overzealous dad who fell in love with sport a mere 6 yrs ago. 🤷🏻‍♂️ That said......will classing create more elite athletes? I can’t buy in. But will it raise numbers and help even more young men become better men? I’m sold on that.
  3. 5 points
    Let me just throw in here... TEAM class wrestling = YES INDIVIDUAL class wrestling = NO How in the wide world of sports did Silas Allred possibly manage to compete at the state level being from a 1A school, let alone win the whole shebang?!?
  4. 4 points
    SWINfan

    Most Dominant

    I just came to post this and you beat me to it. But you forgot one.... Kyle Hatch at #7 in DIII For those that don't want to read the article, it's the NCAA's Most Dominant List based on average team points scored per match. Only Mark Hall leads Nick Lee. Also note the obvious that Nick and Mason are this dominant in the best conference in the country against highly ranked wrestlers. And for what it's worth, Kyle Hatch's 4.94 points at #7 is higher than Mark Hall's DI leading 4.85. Not bad representation for the Hoosier State.
  5. 4 points
    Add any if I missed them Marian (Ind.) 125 Chris Sharp AMC Automatic Qualifier Marian (Ind.) 125 Grant Stapleton AMC Automatic Qualifier Indiana Tech 133 Conner Gimson KCAC/SAC Automatic Qualifier Indiana Tech 133 Matt Gimson KCAC/SAC Automatic Qualifier Marian (Ind.) 141 Brandon James AMC Automatic Qualifier Marian (Ind.) 149 Bailey Moore AMC Automatic Qualifier. Campbellsville (Ky.) 165 Chandler Woenker Mid-South Conference Wildcard #3 Marian (Ind.) 165 Brett Johnson AMC Automatic Qualifier Cumberland (Tenn.) 174 Nathan Walton Mid-South Automatic Qualifier Indiana Tech 174 Scott Sopko KCAC/SAC Automatic Qualifier Marian (Ind.) 174 Sam Osho AMC Automatic Qualifier Indiana Tech 184 Eric Vermillion KCAC/SAC Automatic Qualifier Marian (Ind.) 184 Colton Gonzalez AMC Automatic Qualifier Marian (Ind.) 197 Jack Servies AMC Automatic Qualifier Southeastern (Fla.) 197 Blake Rypel Mid-South Automatic Qualifier Calumet St. Joseph (Ind.) 285 Nick Fowler AMC Automatic Qualifier Campbellsville (Ky.) 285 Ashton Mutuwa Mid-South Automatic Qualifier Marian (Ind.) 285 Ethan Bunce AMC Automatic Qualifier Indiana school, but from out of state. Indiana Tech 285 Vernon Willis KCAC/SAC Automatic Qualifier Indiana Tech 141 Kyle Kantola KCAC/SAC Automatic Qualifier
  6. 4 points
    FCFIGHTER170

    Better than Indiana

    Indiana have 7 of the last 13 Big ten wrestlers of the week Also shows we are def on the come up at d1 level among every other level in college as well!
  7. 4 points
    Sig40

    Better than Indiana

    I think we are at 6. Many of the top dual teams from elementary to HS are littered with Indiana kids. If we ever put our best on 1 team it would be scary. Bryan Bailey was probably the closet to accomplishing that goal. Check out his facebook, where everyone has been posting their memories with his teams. He has coached just about every stud in the state. We just need to get rid of travel restriction and other states will start getting exposed to some of our depth. Our top guys already travel, but getting rid of travel restriction will help some of our other talented wrestlers get exposure that can't or don't travel during the summer.
  8. 3 points
    GrecoCoach

    Better than Indiana

    I complete agree with that reasoning for our travel restrictions. The top teams would go to the big national tournaments and draw in more of our studs from nearby communities. The rich would get richer. However, I have a big problem with the IHSAA restricting the travel of schools outside of Indiana. Why do they get to dictate travel for teams from other states? If a really good team from Iowa wants to spend the time and money to compete at the Mater Dei Classic, and their school and state association allow it, then who is that hurting from Indiana?
  9. 3 points
    Actually.....kind of, yes. But not in that articulated way. You simply help them develop a mindset that breaks the “small town mentality” of “It can never happen to me”. You encourage them to set their goals ridiculously high....then spill their guts every day to accomplish them. Urge them to never make excuses, work as hard in life & the classroom as they do in the sport. Teach them that wins & losses don’t define them....their response does. Build them up in the reality that they can accomplish anything. And at the end of the day......when/if they fall short of those goals, reiterate to them they haven’t failed. Encourage them to look around.....because they still will have accomplished more that 98% of everyone else. And 100% of those who fear failure.
  10. 3 points
    NW Indiana Wrestling Fan

    Better than Indiana

    Due to past experience in Michigan. I can say that INDIANA WRESTLING IS MUCH BETTER THAN MICHIGAN WRESTLING. Weather Michigan has 1 division at state or 4.. Indiana is still better. When I first moved here I constantly argued for Michigan with my team but it is very clear to me now that Indiana Wrestling is VERY UNDERRATED
  11. 3 points
    TeamGarcia

    State Champs Age

    Asa - 6 Blaze - 4 They thought it was going to be like WWE . We walked in the Muncie Pal Club on the their first day and they seen a boxing ring . Blaze darted for it, until I told him NO ! That’s not real wrestling. Rest is History. Wish I could go back to the beginnings . Fun times, a lot of crying . 😊
  12. 3 points
    SIACfan

    Better than Indiana

    I feel there are several separate points being discussed here. First, I believe the Indiana State Tournament is great in that it is intended to find the best wrestler at each weight class rather than to find the best from each different school size. But we have debated that many a time. Secondly, however, this same tournament is flawed in the fact that there are no wrestle-backs. But what are we to do when the people in charge don't truly understand the sport? Lastly, the ranking of states by number of NCAA qualifiers &/or AA's does give a decent indication of which states have the best HS wrestling, but unless this list takes into account population numbers then it's not giving a fair comparison of true quality. For example, California has nearly 6 times the population of Indiana & over 12 times the population of Iowa. I have not looked up the numbers recently, but their number of NCAA AA's has not been 6 & 12 times that of Indiana & Iowa in most years. I definitely believe that Indiana & especially Iowa are 2 strong wrestling states that don't get as much credit given the quality wrestlers produced from smaller populations.
  13. 3 points
    smitty11

    Best matches of the weekend...

    Hollendoner Friday, quarter and semi matches were pretty fun to watch. He might have been done Friday night if Morrisett doesn't take down. Think he was up 1 or 2 to 0 before the cradle. A
  14. 2 points
    ehscoach

    Better than Indiana

    So, this was a discussion after an athletic director proposed it as a rule change. I was just part of the explanations and not the proposal. But if I remember the explanation correctly, the commish said it was not proposed correctly. If the proposal had said something to the sorts of competing against teams outside of the travel restriction, as long as they came to us or a neutral place within our travel limits, that most likely would have passed. But because the proposal was about lifting travel restrictions, they would not go with it and to try again the next proposal series.
  15. 2 points
    This a good pick up for the greyhounds, I wish LB would have chosen to be a Knight at the great program Marian is building. They'd be coming for Grandview in the team race. #goknights
  16. 2 points
    FCFIGHTER170

    State Champs Age

    I know that raggedy old ring well.. couple times in there with William Lee and Carvin had me wanting to wrestle too so tell Blaze he wasn't the only 1😂
  17. 2 points
    Jayruss

    Best to Never Win State

    Craig Macke gets my vote every time. Poor guy had the face Angel Escobedo.
  18. 2 points
    bluemonster

    State Champs Age

    Alex Cottey started when he was 4yrs old. We couldn’t keep him off the mat while his brothers were wrestling.
  19. 2 points
    QuinnHarris

    Best to Never Win State

    Ty Mills 4x Placer 2x Runner Up
  20. 2 points
    wrestlenewbie

    Most Dominant

    My apologies to Kyle Hatch. I looked through DII and DIII and just flat out missed that.
  21. 2 points
    GG19

    Better than Indiana

    If Illinois is up that high, indiana should be up there too in my opinion plus some of the region kids are up there in Illinois
  22. 2 points
    Cruz/Fiechter Friday night was a pretty good one.
  23. 2 points
    OUBrewer

    ‘19 champs vs ‘20

    Why are you talking about yourself in third person dude...
  24. 2 points
    It looks like our current system is quite equitable. 1A has 11.16% of Indiana Students in (91 schools) and earns 9.8% of the medals and 9.8% of the qualifiers. (minimal under-performing) 2A has 22.13% of Indiana Students in (91 schools) and earns 21.4% of the medals and 23.7% of the qualifiers. (performing) 3A has 29.27% of Indiana Students in (60 schools) and earns 23.2% of the medals and 25.4% of the qualifiers. (under-performing) 4A has 31.42% of Indiana Students in (35 schools) and earns 45.5% of the medals and 41.1% of the qualifiers. (Over-performing) 4A over-represents itself by a bit. The other subdivisions are within a pretty close margin of their school population predicting their qualifiers and placers. I get frustrated by these talks because I think of students earning medals, and I don't think of schools as earning medals. I feel like a small group of students should earn a small group of medals. I feel like big groups of students should earn big groups of medals. The opportunities to qualify and place at state are pretty equal for students in any type of school based on these numbers. If we analyzed dual meet success between schools, I think you would find that the bigger schools have much more success, as they have more students to field their teams, so their teams are better; thus, a team separation of classes makes much more sense than an individual separation of a tournament that seems to give equitable opportunities.
  25. 2 points
    ShawSki

    Best matches of the weekend...

    Macartney Parkinson vs Joe Walker 182
  26. 2 points
    NW Indiana Wrestling Fan

    Team race

    Also the trainers asked me if I was ok, and I replied that it wasn’t my head, I just landed on my neck weird. I never even had the thought of taking the match from him like that. I have too much respect for him and his father to ever do that.
  27. 2 points
    FunkItUP

    ‘19 champs vs ‘20

    Brewer over Walker any day, he straight handled his partner last year and beat Donahue who is now a national prep champion... Kinda clueless on why anyone would say walker.
  28. 1 point
    Here's some info the Scholar compiled related to the new classifications from performance at State. State champion by class based on team points. There's been a discussion in the past about recognizing champions with this method IHSAA does not recognize the classifications. 4A- Indy Cathedral 3A-Roncali 2A- Bellmont, Northwood 1A-Shenandoah State Qualifiers 4A- 92 or 41.1% 3A - 57 or 25.4% 2A - 53 or 23.7% 1A- 22 or 9.8% State Placers 4A- 51 or 45.5% 3A - 26 or 23.2% 2A- 24 or 21.4% 1A- 11 or 9.8% Analysis Again the bigger schools dominate again with class 4a with 11% of the schools getting 41% of qualifiers and 45% of placers. Class 1A gets roughly 10% of placers and Qualifiers. Surprisingly 3A and 2A are very similar statistically with 3A slightly beating out 2A. Indiana probably will never have class wrestling, but are the smaller schools really happy with this? You have some great athletes that will always have a very difficult time getting recognized at the state level. Its just accepted in Indiana, and I have mentioned before that many small schools embrace the "Hoosier syndrome". "Hoosier Syndrome" is the small school mentality that the small schools can compete with the big guys and occasionally pull off the big upset, and that's better than just competing against the little guys, a theme essentially inspired in the movie "Hoosiers". We've had the argument if it affects participation and stats are inconclusive in my opinion. Ive been around and seen both sides. Just to explain another perspective. Back in my home state "Kansas", they are a believer in class wrestling and are immersed in class wrestling. Ive discussed with some Kansans in the wrestling community and they have a hard time wrapping there heads around one class. But the state tournament there is broken into 4 classes similar to the surrounding states. Its seriously flawed in that they wrestle the tournament in 3 locations. The small class (made up of about 70 schools) goes out to a small town in Western Kansas called Hays and have their own tournament. They host the tournament at Ft Hays State a D2 college wrestling program. Most of the towns in western Kansas are small, so its geographically centered where most of the small schools are. But the joy of it is there's a lot of kids and fans that get to participate. Hotels are sold out, and restaruants are busy during this weekend. There's caravans of cars with windows painted going to state. They really embrace it and love they get to spend the night at a hotel. The ironic thing is the small school wrestlers think they're great because they qualified and believe there level is close to the bigger classes. Its tremendously watered down level of wrestling compared to Indiana, but the kids are ignorant of that and they believe that qualifying for state is just as big of achievement as it is in any other state like Indiana. Ignorance is bliss, but they kids are proud and having a good time.
  29. 1 point
    GrecoCoach

    Better than Indiana

    That's awesome! How many years ago was this proposed? I'm assuming this is a bylaw change, so when is the next chance for an AD to propose this?
  30. 1 point
    I agree with this statement, however Silas didn't just compete against guys his own weight... He dominated. Every win by pin this season, less than 10 wins in his career didn't end in pin only 2 career losses ranked number 2 in the nation. When he's all said and done who know's what else he's going to accomplish. I'm sure there's not many NCAA all-Americans or National Champs that come from a public school the size of Shanendoah, Both thing's that can be accomplished. I'm not saying both accomplishments are on the same level just saying they're similar ideas.
  31. 1 point
    2 Days in a row I’ve read posts that are on 🔥! Love it
  32. 1 point
    I hear you brother. And for clarity....my comments aren’t meant to be argumentative at all. Just additional perspective from individuals whose weathered the challenges of 1A wrestling, and relentlessly found a way to excel. But I will say....that above mindset should be worked to be ingrained in the minds of athletes at all levels. Because in my opinion, where your from, how much money you have, etc...should never be an excuse to not recklessly pursue your passions. And being fully transparent.....we’ve never had tons of money. In fact, driving different locations for partners hurt the wallet a lot at times. The numbers dynamic is the biggest “pro” in my mind towards classification. I mean....we couldn’t convince kids to wrestle when we were competing for Team State Championships 3 straight years! True story. So again....just in my personal experience, I don’t think the opportunity for accolades will solve the problem either. But I can’t stress enough.....I don’t have the answers. I simply just share what has worked for us, in hopes that other programs/coaches/wrestlers can realize they’re capable of accomplishing anything through effort, discipline, responsibility and accountability. Because ultimately....I don’t think the IHSAA has any desire to change a thing man.
  33. 1 point
    Steven Sandefer

    State Champs Age

    Walker started in 7th grade
  34. 1 point
    JMILL

    Middle School Team State

    Nothing finalized yet, there are def lots to talk about and the biggest thing is expansion because we did have several teams waitlisted and want them to have a chance to chase the title and get the competition. stay tuned more to come for sure. Thanks for the kudos, but its def a team effort by all that helped out with the Carmel HS staff/kids and the ISWA.
  35. 1 point
    Apologies to @UncleJimmy, as I somehow missed this thread until just now. I am not sure about all of the other rural schools, but in our area, families don't have the luxury of selecting a school based on its wrestling program, or even its academic offerings for that matter. Where I am from, school is often selected based on who a kid is living with in a given semester, what is the easiest place to get them to, etc. Further, it is very easy to take one example and say, "just do what that guy did." To use a basketball analogy (sorry, guys) Mugsy Bogues was a 5'3" NBA basketball player. Does that mean that every basketball coach should tell his shortest guy, "Hey, you should play D1. He did it. What's your excuse?"
  36. 1 point
    prediction - 125 comments 624 likes & laughs & confusion emojis 35 gifs and 1 beating of a dead horse comments . we need a pick’ems for bananas. That way I can double my 46,000 + stash . 😂😂 carry on fellas ......
  37. 1 point
    But if this were actually classed from the beginning of the tournament, I believe the champion for the smaller schools would be different. Would be closer to those teams that fair really well at the team state duals, as teams would probably be moving more qualifiers to state facing 1A and 2A schools.
  38. 1 point
    For all of those people that think school size and location doesn't matter. Please move your child to a small rural school out in the middle of a corn field 2-3 hours away from all or just any Academies to wrestle at on any given day of the week. Then throw in the other sports they most likely are involved in. If small school kids knew the had a chance to win a state title there would be more emphasis on club and off season wrestling. Which would increase those numbers as well. It would also keep those coaches more involved year around. The numbers don't lie big school vs small school in any sport. The day of I might get a chance doesn't exist anymore. Kids move on to other sports that they know they can compete in.
  39. 1 point
    MattM

    Better than Indiana

    The distance we can travel isn’t the major issue with this rule. Heck I can live with it and see a point in having it. What really holds us back is they other part of the rule. The fact a school can not face a team/wrestler who has traveled from outside thAt radius to be at the competition. This rule was likely conceived just thinking about travel for single competition team sports. But the reality of it has a big effect on individual sports where multiple schools attend an event. It practically eliminates Indiana schools from participating in most major individual tournaments.
  40. 1 point
    What's Cathedral wrestling's secret? 'Best coaching staff in the state of Indiana' BRIAN HARMON | SPECIAL FOR INDYSTAR 1:38 p.m. EST Feb. 23, 2020 INDIANAPOLIS – Keeping a keen eye on a third-place match at the IHSAA Wrestling State Finals from one of two designated coaching chairs per team on the mat’s periphery, Cathedral coach Jeff Brown shouts encouragement to senior Tyler Wagner. During a break in the action, fellow Irish coach Michael Venezia pats Wagner on the shoulder and provides additional advice. Brown is not the Cathedral head coach. Neither is Venezia. Sean McGinley believes in delegation — and in his assistant coaches. “I have a lot of trust with my assistants,” said McGinley, a 1988 Cathedral graduate in his 20th season as his alma mater’s wrestling coach. “These coaches work so hard with these kids and they’ve got relationships with them, and they wrestle with them everyday. And I want to put that best person out there that knows that wrestler.“ It’s a philosophy that works. With McGinley often viewing matches several dozen feet from the action, Cathedral captured its third-straight team championship and fourth since 2014 on Saturday at Bankers Life Fieldhouse. The Irish scored two individual titles: Zeke Seltzer at 120 pounds and Holden Parsons at 285 pounds. Ultimately, it was depth that propelled the Irish to the banner with 102 points, edging Crown Point (93.5). Cathedral’s Logan Bailey (138 pounds) was runner-up; Elliott Rodgers (160 pounds) grabbed third place; and Wagner (170 pounds) took fourth place. Each state finisher, along with the remaining Irish standouts who had a part in sectional, regional and semistate team crowns leading up to Saturday, has relied on a variety of assistant coaches. Whether it's Brown, Venezia, Anthony Bill, Mo Gunn, Brian Seltzer or Brandon Wright, each Cathedral grappler has tapped into a variety of knowledge. “One thing I’m proud to say is that my coaches aren’t only my coaches, but also my friends,” Rodgers said. “One of my biggest supporters is coach Bill. He’s helped me ever since my freshman year. They all have, but he has especially worked with me. To have him sit in my corner makes me feel really good because we’ve worked on things and he knows how I wrestle.” The staff has a wealth of experience, not the least of which includes Brian Seltzer’s long tenure as head coach at Elkhart Memorial and Lawrence North through 2016. Admittedly biased, Zeke Seltzer (Brian’s son) believes, “Our coaching staff is the best coaching staff in the state of Indiana, by far.” The collective coaching effort has raised the Cathedral wrestling program to the lofty athletic heights normally associated with the school, which has captured multiple football, volleyball and other IHSAA team state titles. Prior to 2014, the Irish had not won a wrestling team championship. Under McGinley’s tenure, 108 wrestlers have qualified for the state finals, with 83 of the grapplers going on to place in the top eight, according to IndianaMat.com. “Whether it’s me or coach Brown or coach Seltzer, I want to give the kid the opportunity to succeed,” McGinley said. “It’s not about me, it’s about these kids. If I don’t go out there (to the mat) ever, as long as they’re winning, I’m happy.” In a year’s time, Cathedral will aim for a fourth-straight wrestling state title, a feat not accomplished since Evansville Mater Dei’s string of nine straight titles from 1995 through 2003. Of the eight Irish state qualifiers Friday and Saturday — including Evan Dickey (106 pounds), Johnny Parker (182 pounds) and Jacob Huffman (195 pounds), who were eliminated Friday — only Seltzer, Dickey and Parker will return. A graduating senior, Rodgers has faith that the program is in good hands. “McGinley is your biggest fan,” Rodgers said. “He always has your back. He’s the guy that if you have a problem, he’s got your back and he will deal with it 100%. He is not only a great wrestling coach, but a great friend to have.” https://www.indystar.com/picture-gallery/sports/high-school/2020/02/23/ihsaa-wrestling-state-finals-2020-championship-matches/4847084002/
  41. 1 point
    Jim calhoun

    Referees in the tournament

    I hate complaining about officials because I feel over all they are great at what they do and I have officiated many years myself. My sons match at 170....other 170 semi final amongst some others I know had some controversy. It’s funny that ive had a few referees apologize about the match saying it was a takedown but time was out. Other refs said it wasn’t a takedown but the time was still not out. They award 2 then after the challenge (which I would have done myself) they change the call. The problem I had is not either ref checked at the table with time keeper how much time their was. I watched the Fielden and Wagner semi as well at 170 and again very similar ending. I heard many people from all over the state talk about the stalling or lack of calls they have ever seen at a state tournament. Of course refs make mistakes and this isn’t to bash refs but more that at the state level make sure you get it right if possible. The second official should not be able to over ride without absolutely knowing the call by the head ref officiating the match has called. I’ve been on both sides of this as a coach and ref. I have not and will not bash the refs because I in no way want to diminish or belittle the state championship won by Mr. Deters. He won and earned the victory. I just hate when so much talk about our state finals is on officials not making calls, or not getting in position etc. I think it re emphasizes my first post on this thread when I started it about the way to get officials isn’t a rotating system.... I’m not a fan of participation trophies. You earn it.....if you get in 10 years in a row you earn it and are voted in. If your a rookie but one of the best you deserve to be in there. Bashing officials will never build it where it needs to be.....but there definately needs to be a change to the system if we want the quality as well as quantity of officials we want.
  42. 1 point
    It’s harder to make a sectional roster at a big school, so how is this relevant to the stats I gave? If you are from a big school, your sectional qualifier (wrestle off) is harder than a small school. This seems to buy into the idea that schools deserve medals, where I think students deserve the chance at medals which is happening already.
  43. 1 point
    Here are some interesting stats, this is in terms of sectional participants, meaning total wrestlers entered at sectional. Wr Qual Placers 1A 1036 22 2.12% 11 1.06% 2A 1098 57 5.19% 24 2.19% 3A 761 53 6.96% 26 3.42% 4A 463 92 19.87% 51 11.02%
  44. 1 point
  45. 1 point
    TeamGarcia StoneCold Awards : The Gladiator Award goes to .... Joe Walker . Why not face the best Round 1, Round 2, Round 3, Round 4 . It doesn’t matter .
  46. 1 point
    wrestlenewbie

    Flo Hodge Rankings

    How Flo sees it 1 - 13 Rank Name School Wins Pin Tech Major 1 Spencer Lee Iowa 14 3 8 2 2 Vincenzo Joseph Penn State 13 5 1 3 3 Nick Lee Penn State 18 4 7 4 4 Kollin Moore Ohio State 23 3 6 8 5 Michael Kemerer Iowa 13 2 3 3 6 Mason Parris Michigan 25 9 1 6 7 Gable Steveson Minnesota 12 3 1 6 8 Ryan Deakin Northwestern 18 5 0 7 9 Jack Mueller Virginia 12 4 3 2 10 Pat Glory Princeton 19 4 8 2 11 Shane Griffith Stanford 23 7 0 7 12 Noah Adams West Virginia 26 5 2 5 13 Chas Tucker Cornell 27 2 0 1
  47. 1 point
    DrunkJoeNamath

    Best to Never Win State

    Hands down Tom Brady... 6x Super Bowl Champion 4x Super Bowl MVP 3x NFL MVP 14x Pro Bowler 3x First Team All-Pro 2x Second Team All-Pro 2x NFL Offensive Player of the Year NEVER won an Indiana Wrestling State Championship...
  48. 1 point
    wrestleback4life

    Best to Never Win State

    Gil Journey
  49. 1 point
    2intense

    ‘19 champs vs ‘20

    Eli and Jordan have only wrestled once that I recall. It was in middle school and Slivka a year older. Final score 1-0. Slivka. It would be a fun match in my opinion.
  50. 1 point
    scott46123

    Best to Never Win State

    Ray Rioux...4 time medalist (twice a runner up)
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